(03-03-2017 05:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Never thought I'd see the day when the conservatives would fall for a charlatan like Trump. Wow. Sad. You guys believe every utterance from him.

No evidence of conservatives believing everything Trump says. Go back and look at the threads leading up to and right after the election. Most of us had many reservations about him and still do.

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(03-03-2017 05:51 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Never thought I'd see the day when the conservatives would fall for a charlatan like Trump. Wow. Sad. You guys believe every utterance from him.

Why not? You believed in Oblunder, your savior. Remember we used to say the same thing about youse guys.

1. The facts in the OP aren't made up so it is stupid to argue the source is made up.

2. The source highlights his political leaning despite it not being a politically motivated event and doesn't highlight that this is 8 threats among the 100s of threats against JCCs. So obvious the source has some bias to it and is not ideal.

3. The NYT may not be perfect but is 100+ years old and is one of the most well known newspaper publications in the world. The other is a personal blog by a noted conspiracy theorist. No matter how much you hate the NYT or liberal media is it really that hard to admit there are some serious differences between the two and thus they are not comparable?

Its maddening watching you guys argue over this.

No surprise it was a leftist making the threats. It is what they do.

and I havent seen one single damned thing on this since his arrest. cant talk about this now. cant say it was a leftist journalist who did this. look, over there, MUH PUTIN!

(03-03-2017 02:25 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-03-2017 02:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-03-2017 02:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  He made bomb threats in his ex girlfriend's name.
He also contacted her boss claiming to be a journalist about a DUI she got (which was untrue).

OK if that's the case I can see it as personal between boy and girlfriend above all else

And according to ABC he isn't the main suspect in the recent wave of threats. There are 100 or so threats being made, he was responsible for around 8 of them and was inspired by news coverage of the threats to make threats himself.

You don't cite a specific source, so it's hard to respond definitively. But, most reports state that there were at least eight incidents. That is based on eight specific charges in the official complaint related to threats against various JCCs across the country, some in his name that he claims to have come from his girlfriend, and some in her name that are alleged to have come from him. Time.com indicates it is more than a dozen. The Chicago Tribune reports that police will investigate whether Thompson weas involved in desecrating a Jewish Cemetery there. The Jerusalem Post notes that Thompson was charged with cyberstalking, including by way of threats against JCCs... the eight incidents in the complaint are only those that involve harassment against his girlfriend, and that further charges are expected pending a Justice Department investigation. The JPost further questions why he sent faxes (incorrectly stated as emails) in October referencing antisemitism. Thompson's twitter feed is a mishmash of racist and deranged postings, and he was fired from The Intercept for fabricating a cousin of Dylan Roof and alleging that Roof went on a shooting rampage because a girl he was interested in dated a black man. I suspect that Thompson is manic depressive, as his behavior seems like what I've witnessed before. But, I would not underestimate the extent to which he is involved in these anti-semitic acts. That said, I don't think there is any shortage of suspects for things like this, although there seems to be no long-term rise in antisemitism in the US.

(03-03-2017 04:38 PM)No Bull Wrote:  New York Times is through as a legitimate source for the news for the vast multitudes. I have a liberal, no borders, socialist, friend girl and she has stopped reading the NYT because it is too biased.

I'm responding generally, but cited you because of the key phrase "is through". There is a reason that newspapers once held substantially more credibility than television. Newspapers traditionally had much better editorial restraint and latitude to go in depth into stories. There revenue depended on circulation, which in turn depended on being both correct and being the first to report on a topic. But, the deadlines were once or twice per day, not something continuous, as in today's climate. Getting clicks (the modern equivalent of circulation) depends both on being at the top of a search engine and on appealing to very narrow interests of readers. I have heard rumors that writers deliberately inject incorrect facts into articles in order to drive up comments on articles and drive up the click counts. But, newspapers cannot afford to have the same editorial restraint in today's environment that they once did, and their credibility predictably suffers.

In the early days of the internet, you could access the AP News feed for free on Usenet. You could see the article evolve as more facts were added over time and some things were corrected from one version to the next. You could see at that time the value of good editorial control. Local TV news does not and never has deserved to be viewed seriously. They are 80% mindless entertainment, 10% shilling for local lawyers and others with vested interests, 9% failed attempts at serious journalism, and perhaps 1% of the time report on something worthwhile.

Most of the polemic sites like infowars are purely derivative adding little but misinterpretation and wild speculation, and when they are not, they tend to manufacture stories on contrive situations to fit an agenda.

I do fear that real journalism may never fully recover, and that future generations will suffer because of it. Even when sites do a good job of vetting information and researching in depth, they often come in too late to undo the damage that instantaneous access to information - flawed though it is - can provide.