Tough call, a couple bad losses and a couple good wins. It'd be nice if Belmont got their RPI below 50.

What would be nice is if we get just one damn conference member below 100.

We fell from 30 to 38 last night just by playing FIU. Has since recovered a bit to 36.

But now FAU, so our RPI will fall a little more. Problem is unless we lose in the championship game to someone with a winning record like Tech or ODU, our RPI is going to collapse into the 40's or 50's with any other loss and we're toast.

A loss to FAU would have been a disaster. I think they will get in when the lose to ODU in the finals.

The one thing going against them, though, is that they lack that eye-opening win that gets the committee's attention.

"Kicked out"?

You guys know something we don't?

(03-03-2017 09:52 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  I think they will get in when the lose to ODU in the finals.

I think they should. You really need UNC-Wilmington and Belmont to win their conference tournaments. Makes those wins stand out more and should get Belmont's RPI below 50.

Pulling for Vandy is a tough one. Having them make a run in the SEC tournament should keep their RPI below 50, but you may be competing with them for a bid.

I hope we don't have to worry about it.

Glad that it looks as thougth ODU is on other side of bracket from us.

Assuming MT is in the final game of the tournament, and playing a top six seed in that final game, I think they get in as an at-large.

(03-03-2017 09:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What would be nice is if we get just one damn conference member below 100.

We fell from 30 to 38 last night just by playing FIU. Has since recovered a bit to 36.

But now FAU, so our RPI will fall a little more. Problem is unless we lose in the championship game to someone with a winning record like Tech or ODU, our RPI is going to collapse into the 40's or 50's with any other loss and we're toast.

This. While you are a solid 4-1 against the top 100, not sure anyone has gotten in with only 4 top 100 wins. Even worse is you only played LT and ODU once so even if of them them wins the tournament and breaks into the top 100, still only 5 top 100 wins. I think you should get a bid, but it is truly in the hands of the committee, who could make a good justification either way.

(03-03-2017 10:53 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  I think they should. You really need UNC-Wilmington and Belmont to win their conference tournaments. Makes those wins stand out more and should get Belmont's RPI below 50.

Pulling for Vandy is a tough one. Having them make a run in the SEC tournament should keep their RPI below 50, but you may be competing with them for a bid.

If we are competing for a bid, part of what they will look at is undoubtedly our head to head which we won 71-48.

If they could have pulled of the VCU win, they'd be a lock. As it stands now, I think they get in if they win out until the final. Our conference RPI is hurting them terribly, but in spite of playing the rest of us, their individual RPI is still good, and their record is pretty. Keep winning until the final guys. We need 2 teams in every year, even if it means our best team chokes in the final to make it happen. Obviously, what would be better is having two teams in at large contention and they both make it to the final. Maybe next year.

(03-03-2017 11:15 AM)monarx Wrote:  If they could have pulled of the VCU win, they'd be a lock. As it stands now, I think they get in if they win out until the final. Our conference RPI is hurting them terribly, but in spite of playing the rest of us, their individual RPI is still good, and their record is pretty. Keep winning until the final guys. We need 2 teams in every year, even if it means our best team chokes in the final to make it happen. Obviously, what would be better is having two teams in at large contention and they both make it to the final. Maybe next year.

Remember when Drexel got snubbed not once but thrice, because they didnt have any big wins in OOC. Drexel was 27-6, won 19 straight games and 25 of 27, was the top seed in the conference tournament and didn’t appear to have any bad losses. But they got left out of the NCAA tourney after they lost the conf title game, 56-53.

MT could be that Drexel this year IMO if they lose any game during conf tourney.

(03-03-2017 09:48 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What would be nice is if we get just one damn conference member below 100.

We fell from 30 to 38 last night just by playing FIU. Has since recovered a bit to 36.

But now FAU, so our RPI will fall a little more. Problem is unless we lose in the championship game to someone with a winning record like Tech or ODU, our RPI is going to collapse into the 40's or 50's with any other loss and we're toast.

You're walking on egg shells there Lightening. A couple of the WKU fans get their feathers ruffled big time whenever someone blames the high RPI of their conference mates as reason for them to have missed out on an at large bid to the NCAA Tournament.

I hope you guys do get one if you lose at some point in the conference tournament next week.

Hate to say it but CUSA is a one-bid league this year. If MTSU gets kicked out of the CUSA tourney they are NIT-bound....best wins are against UNC-Wilington and Belmont. Had you guys beat VCU earlier in the year then you'd be inside the bubble. Sucks...but CUSA is just really really bad this year. We drug you down. Sorry.

Hopefully the committee looks at our scheduling. We have the 15th toughest OOC schedule in the country and 14 road wins which i believe is around top 5 on the country. It's not like we didn't go out of our way to do everything the committee wants. We cant control our horrible conference drags us down.

(03-03-2017 12:00 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  Hopefully the committee looks at our scheduling. We have the 15th toughest OOC schedule in the country and 14 road wins which i believe is around top 5 on the country. It's not like we didn't go out of our way to do everything the committee wants. We cant control our horrible conference drags us down.

I know it's getting to be a broken record but seriously, what more can we do? We played a tough OOC schedule and then we have a top 30 RPI which suddenly drops by nearly 10 spots just because we play a conference foe named FIU. So frustrating

I think they should be in if they lost in finals, but I thought ODU had a great case two years ago and were left out

(03-03-2017 12:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I think they should be in if they lost in finals, but I thought ODU had a great case two years ago and were left out

And it was MTSU's fault (well, a late season road loss at UTSA didn't help either).

Payback is ....

(03-03-2017 12:08 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I think they should be in if they lost in finals, but I thought ODU had a great case two years ago and were left out

Fairly similar circumstances and if we had made it to the finals I think we would have been included. The same is probably true for them. If they fall before the finals it's on to the NIT, if they lose in the finals I think they have a good shot. There'd be a lot of anxious hand wringing in Murfreesboro come selection Sunday.