Quote:HOUSTON - Two men who are charged with murder in the death of a girl whose body was found lying in a southwest Houston road on Feb. 16. appeared in court Wednesday night.

Police believe Miguel Angel Alvarez-Flores, 22, and Diego Alexander Hernandez-Rivera, 18, are MS 13 gang members from El Salvador.

Quote:According to prosecutors, the girl said that after four days she was given to a man named Flaco who moved her to another apartment where six other MS 13 gang members lived. The witness said she was forced to drink alcohol and take drugs while the gang members raped her.

The girl told investigators that at one point, the leader of the gang, Diabilco, held her down and tattooed the image of the grim reaper on her body from her knee down to her foot, prosecutors said. It was found that Diabilco is Alvarez-Flores, according to prosecutors.

The girl said that during her captivity, she met another girl at the apartment who was called Genesis, prosecutors said. She told investigators that one night Genesis made an outburst against a shrine dedicated to the gang members' satanic beliefs that offended Alvarez-Flores. In reaction to the outburst, he gave an offering of a lit cigarette to the satanic statue, prosecutors said, but then told the group that the beast did not want a material offering but wanted a soul.

Quote:Hernandez-Rivera and Alvarez-Flores are both charged with aggravated kidnapping and murder and are being held on $150,000 bond for each charge. Both men have immigration holds, prosecutors said.

“There would be a multi-layer process for them to be able to walk about on the streets of our county,” prosecutor Lisa Collins said.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/2-men-...uston-road

dreamers!

Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

so if a legal resident commits a crime, its ok for a illegal immigrant to do it too? interesting logic you got there.

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

OK.

Could this had happened with with a legal resident? Of course it could, anything could. But it didn't. It was scum that came here illegally and most likely should have been sent back before this DID happen

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

thats what you are curious about?

(03-02-2017 03:55 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

so if a legal resident commits a crime, its ok for a illegal immigrant to do it too? interesting logic you got there.

When I was in Mid School, myself and others were told by a teacher that if a student from a foreign country were to kill or commit an act of violence they wouldn't be charged. Because they were not from the US and may not speak English that they did not understand our laws. Same thing for if they started a fight. Which was why the topic of discussion was brought up in the first place. A foreign student got into a fight with someone. They were not punished. Even though witnesses said that he started the fight. The one who was attacked was suspended for a week.

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

OK.

Could this had happened with with a legal resident? Of course it could, anything could. But it didn't. It was scum that came here illegally and most likely should have been sent back before this DID happen

Relax. I didn't even read the OP...I have him on ignore because he's incapable of rational discussion.

I haven't seen you around here a lot, but this is a pattern on here where crime only seems to matter if it happened in Chicago (when Obama was president) or when it is done by a Muslim or an illegal.

That's all.

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

Why would anyone try to defend crime?

Again, I didn't see it or read it. I don't have to just to know crime sucks. Move along.

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

sounds like you blew a butthurt gasket.

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

What race were the illegal aliens involved in this crime?

(03-02-2017 04:38 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

sounds like you blew a butthurt gasket.

is that terminal?

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

There was no point. Even he admitted that. Carry on....

I might be mistaken but I don't think race was the part he was pointing to. I think the murder of a young girl by someone in this country illegally and being sought out for deportation was the key part. And if President Obama had enforced the laws this person probably is not here to commit this crime. Of course he could have still not been caught. But we don't know either way.

There is not a thing we can do about someone in this country legally if they commit crimes. Other than to lock them up. No way to stop it before hand. But there are ways to cut down on crimes by the people here illegally. Before they happen. We have tools/laws in place for that. This girl is most likely alive today if those laws were enforced before she was killed. I think (again I could be mistaken) all of us are just as upset when something like this happens if it Billy Bob that did it. But it's useless to bring up every crime like that....

(03-02-2017 04:40 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

What race were the illegal aliens involved in this crime?

you are a joke.

Now be nice John.

(03-02-2017 05:03 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:40 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

What race were the illegal aliens involved in this crime?

you are a joke.

So judging by your typical personal attack you don't know but you claimed racism anyway?

Figures.

(03-02-2017 04:36 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:21 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 04:10 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 03:50 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious, if a crime is committed by a legal resident, did it not actually happen?

So your first reaction after seeing/reading what these two girls went through with one dying...is to deflect to something else. Instead of saying wow that is awful and people like this should not have been allowed into this country.

Spin 101 since it can not be defended.

do you not see the point he was trying to make?

the act of only highlighting a crime when a specific minority does it is racist as hell and was a tactic Hitler used.

wow. utsa-marine is Hispanic. you know that right? I think the problem he had is that the criminals were here illegally.

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