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RE: Scheduling agreement with Liberty?
I have no issue with playing Liberty on occasion as we have in the past, but would not want it on a normal "conference like" basis as I would prefer the flexibility of having a choice of rather to play them or not. Apps OOC scheduling has been pretty good as of late and Liberty would not be a preferred opponent to be locked into most years going forward. For sports other than Football, doesn't make much difference.
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(03-02-2017 11:02 AM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I have no issue with playing Liberty on occasion as we have in the past, but would not want it on a normal "conference like" basis as I would prefer the flexibility of having a choice of rather to play them or not. Apps OOC scheduling has been pretty good as of late and Liberty would not be a preferred opponent to be locked into most years going forward. For sports other than Football, doesn't make much difference.



For sports other than football, they remain in the "Big" South.
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(03-02-2017 11:00 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-02-2017 10:52 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  I wouldn't mind hosting them in a guarantee game that they pay us for. Makes no sense but they have the money right? I don't really wish failure upon them but I am curious about what would happen if they cannot manage to get the required number of FBS home games. Would the NCAA force them back down? Probably not but I'd wanna see what happens.

If we schedule them before they get up to FBS numbers at least we might be able to beat them.

On the other hand maybe we should build a scheduling relationship with them? If they travel well or have a large enough fan base they could be an extremely attractive option in a few years if they can manage some success. Maybe if we're nice to them now maybe they can help us out if ,God forbid, they somehow surpass the schools in our conference.

Why don't we offer that deal to NMSU? At least everyone can participate in the benefits of that.

I'd be for that as well but they don't have the fanbase, money, facilities, or potential for growth that Liberty does.
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(03-02-2017 11:13 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  
(03-02-2017 11:02 AM)SpeedkingATL Wrote:  I have no issue with playing Liberty on occasion as we have in the past, but would not want it on a normal "conference like" basis as I would prefer the flexibility of having a choice of rather to play them or not. Apps OOC scheduling has been pretty good as of late and Liberty would not be a preferred opponent to be locked into most years going forward. For sports other than Football, doesn't make much difference.



For sports other than football, they remain in the "Big" South.

Smart strategy on Liberty's part but I can't see any G-5 biting.
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I wonder if the proposed scheduling agreement would allow Liberty to participate in the conference's contracted bowls.
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(03-02-2017 11:50 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I wonder if the proposed scheduling agreement would allow Liberty to participate in the conference's contracted bowls.

Why would we consider doing that for ANY team not in our conference?

So Coastal would get pushed out of a bowl for the benefit of Liberty? Hell no. Not just hell no for Liberty, hell no for anyone. Liberty is welcome to find its own bowl outlets or to just take their spot in the 'last pick' bowl pool if one exists.
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(03-02-2017 11:50 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I wonder if the proposed scheduling agreement would allow Liberty to participate in the conference's contracted bowls.

What would be one single solitary benefit to the Sun Belt to allow that to happen?

A bigger question: Can anyone name even ONE benefit to pursuing this?

Negotiations are all about leverage. In this situation, the Sun Belt would have 100% of the leverage compared to Liberty's 0%.

I currently have no ill will at all towards Karl Benson, but if this were to happen without a financial windfall for the conference membership, I'll quickly find some ill will. I refuse to believe Karl is that dumb.

I don't share the inflammatory "they discriminate!!!" argument that others express, however, from a business perspective, there is absolutely ZERO incentive for the Sun belt to come to the table to even discuss this with Liberty unless they're throwing so much money at us that we would all be able to build brand new football stadiums for our programs with zero financing.
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(03-02-2017 12:10 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(03-02-2017 11:50 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I wonder if the proposed scheduling agreement would allow Liberty to participate in the conference's contracted bowls.

Why would we consider doing that for ANY team not in our conference?

So Coastal would get pushed out of a bowl for the benefit of Liberty? Hell no. Not just hell no for Liberty, hell no for anyone. Liberty is welcome to find its own bowl outlets or to just take their spot in the 'last pick' bowl pool if one exists.

I'm with Tom on this one . . . In the history of Bad Ideas . . this one's waaaay way up there. With all this conference has gone through to expand bowl tie ins, it make no sense to even think about giving one away. . . Not to Liberty, not to anyone not wearing a conference patch.
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