(03-01-2017 08:27 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The money basically goes to Sidearm Sports who manages the network. It was like that last year too. Unless CUSA takes over the network and puts all non TV games on it, it won't work out for CUSA.

http://www.sidearmsports.com/athletic-websites/

The upfront fee must be to support the hosting cost that Sidearm runs but CUSA is able to keep ad revenue. Only thing is that if there isn't enough content or viewers, there won't be any ad revenue.

CUSA needs to follow the Mountain West. Make the upfront investment for schools to produce most of the events, have the conference pay the hosting fee and offer the network for free to develop viewership so that advertisers will start showing ads on the CUSA DN. Its a process because in the beginning the MW didn't have any ads because there were no statistics to show advertisers it was worth paying money for the MWDN. After 2 years, ads are now showing up more often at least pretty much before you click on a sporting event. As the network develops and school producers gain experience, we are now seeing some ads during timeouts and etc.
It is a process and its one that CUSA, Sunbelt and even the AAC should start developing.

I looked at the prices for the CUSA version, what are the prices for the MWC version? Is the MWC version basically a continuation of the tv network the MTN? I liked the MTN, I watched some TCU baseball games on it. I think I also watched a wrestling meet Oklahoma at Wyoming on the MTN TV network....
Cheers!

(03-01-2017 10:28 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Nothing new.
Several conferences have been doing this.
In general they are a miserable experience (ever watch one camera baseball telecast? ever watch a game with no graphics so you get a live view as the camera swings up to show the scoreboard and clock?) and announcing is generally awful.
It will be tough to beat the legendary Arkansas-Little Rock women's soccer game that had no announcer, just a stream from a single camera with an open microphone that happened to pick up the athletic director talking about the tits of a soccer player's mom.
Get content like that and it might be worth the money.
http://deadspin.com/ualr-ad-resigns-afte...1630372448

In all fairness to Arky-Little Rock, I've watched wrestling meets on the big 12 website with one camera and no announcers. One year I watched the 1st and 2nd rounds of the Big 12 wrestling Tournament on the Big 12 website with no announcer and one camera. It was cheap looking, but I love college sports.
Cheers!

(03-01-2017 09:54 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:27 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  The money basically goes to Sidearm Sports who manages the network. It was like that last year too. Unless CUSA takes over the network and puts all non TV games on it, it won't work out for CUSA.

http://www.sidearmsports.com/athletic-websites/

The upfront fee must be to support the hosting cost that Sidearm runs but CUSA is able to keep ad revenue. Only thing is that if there isn't enough content or viewers, there won't be any ad revenue.

CUSA needs to follow the Mountain West. Make the upfront investment for schools to produce most of the events, have the conference pay the hosting fee and offer the network for free to develop viewership so that advertisers will start showing ads on the CUSA DN. Its a process because in the beginning the MW didn't have any ads because there were no statistics to show advertisers it was worth paying money for the MWDN. After 2 years, ads are now showing up more often at least pretty much before you click on a sporting event. As the network develops and school producers gain experience, we are now seeing some ads during timeouts and etc.
It is a process and its one that CUSA, Sunbelt and even the AAC should start developing.

I looked at the prices for the CUSA version, what are the prices for the MWC version? Is the MWC version basically a continuation of the tv network the MTN? I liked the MTN, I watched some TCU baseball games on it. I think I also watched a wrestling meet Oklahoma at Wyoming on the MTN TV network....
Cheers!

Even more interesting. Campus Insiders claims to operate the Mountain West Network. As well as others like the ACC, Big 12, and CUSA.
https://campusinsiders.com/

I remember the channel being on sling.

Programming[edit]
Campus Insiders has deals to stream events from the Mountain West Conference, the Patriot League, the West Coast Conference, and the Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association, streaming a total of over 3000 events per-season.[4] Campus Insiders operates branded digital networks for each of its partner conferences (such as the Mountain West Network, Patriot League Network, and TheW.tv). The service also partnered with Sling TV and Twitter to distribute their broadcasts via their respective services[5][6] Campus Insiders previously produced content for the Atlantic 10 Conference and the University of Oregon.

I wonder if these things could work out for these G5 conferences including Youtube and other online streaming? Could schools like James Madison could do a 5-6 game deal for all sports, go independent in football with a C-USA bowl tie in, and all that? James Madison is a known team in football including their upset win over Virginia Tech. Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Wichita State, UTRGV and others could try the same thing in the future.

(03-01-2017 09:51 PM)p23570 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 09:04 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:22 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  This went into affect last summer. Have no idea if it made any money but the quality of production was lacking from several schools. Each school is responsible for it's production and some were far from good and in some cases, UTEP in particular, far from mediocre.

That, at least, is a problem that can be quickly fixed if the university honestly wants to fix it.

I thought he was saying UTEP had good production.

No, unfortunately I meant that UTEP's production needs some work just to get up to mediocre.

Ovc digital network is sidearm sports also. Its free and shows every game that is not on tv or espn3. IF and i mean IF you can get it to work it is good. However I have rarely got to watch all of a game, usually it I get only half of a basketball game and rarely get a football game to get past the commercials.
It seems Cusa wishes to charge for what others get free. And if sidearm sports distributes it it probably rarely works. I predict a flop unless they find someo e else to distribute it.

(03-02-2017 09:18 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 09:51 PM)p23570 Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 09:04 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(03-01-2017 08:22 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  This went into affect last summer. Have no idea if it made any money but the quality of production was lacking from several schools. Each school is responsible for it's production and some were far from good and in some cases, UTEP in particular, far from mediocre.

That, at least, is a problem that can be quickly fixed if the university honestly wants to fix it.

I thought he was saying UTEP had good production.

No, unfortunately I meant that UTEP's production needs some work just to get up to mediocre.

In football I remember Charlotte and UTSA having the best that I watched.

(03-02-2017 09:33 AM)cleburneslim Wrote:  Ovc digital network is sidearm sports also. Its free and shows every game that is not on tv or espn3. IF and i mean IF you can get it to work it is good. However I have rarely got to watch all of a game, usually it I get only half of a basketball game and rarely get a football game to get past the commercials.
It seems Cusa wishes to charge for what others get free. And if sidearm sports distributes it it probably rarely works. I predict a flop unless they find someo e else to distribute it.

Seems like they all need to band together to get a subscription people will pay for.

Paying $10 a month for 1 conference seems like a lot for what games you are getting.

(03-01-2017 10:28 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Nothing new.
Several conferences have been doing this.
In general they are a miserable experience (ever watch one camera baseball telecast? ever watch a game with no graphics so you get a live view as the camera swings up to show the scoreboard and clock?) and announcing is generally awful.

Get content like that and it might be worth the money.
http://deadspin.com/ualr-ad-resigns-afte...1630372448It will be tough to beat the legendary Arkansas-Little Rock women's soccer game that had no announcer, just a stream from a single camera with an open microphone that happened to pick up the athletic director talking about the tits of a soccer player's mom.

Did they at least show the soccer players mom?

(03-02-2017 10:49 AM)p23570 Wrote:  Seems like they [low-revenue, low-exposure conferences] all need to band together to get a subscription people will pay for.

Paying $10 a month for 1 conference seems like a lot for what games you are getting.

Eventually, I think that is exactly what's going to happen.

(03-01-2017 10:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I wonder if these things could work out for these G5 conferences including Youtube and other online streaming? Could schools like James Madison could do a 5-6 game deal for all sports, go independent in football with a C-USA bowl tie in, and all that? James Madison is a known team in football including their upset win over Virginia Tech. Missouri State, Northern Iowa, Wichita State, UTRGV and others could try the same thing in the future.

James Madison?? I don't know about that. If you do that almost need to play several pay games against p-5 schools and Hawaii for an extra game.