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Improving the conference by subtraction
If the Florida twins were pushed out of the conference how much better would we be?

- Divisions would improve bringing UAB back to the East and tightens up geography.

New divisions would be.

EAST
MT
WKU
Marshall
UAB
Charlotte
Old Dominion

West
Southern Miss
Rice
NT
UTSA
UTEP
LA Tech

- Improves conference competitiveness overall by dropping the teams that finish at the bottom in football and basketball annualy, thus improving conference rpi in basketball and W/L record in football.

- Will not hurt TV revenue, as we get very little, so their media markets are a moot point.

- Will divide College football playoff money by two less teams.

- Allows us to go back to 14 members later if two good schools present themselves.

The Florida schools were invited for their potential, but they have yet to contribute to CUSA, and never really contributed to the Sun Belt either. They have poor fan support and no national brand. When do we cut our losses as a confernce and get rid of them? Can they be voted out and how many votes does it take?
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This isn't going to end well or at all.
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I was thinking of a similar situation recently, only regarding Tulane and the AAC (I live in New Orleans). Not sure what their media $$$ is from the New Orleans market, but good grief Tulane is pretty awful in all three revenue sports right now.

At least FAU has good baseball, even though that is the least important revenue sport. I think FAU and FIU would argue they have the potential to become programs like UH or Memphis. So it is more about potential impact than current contributions.
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Personally, I like having the Florida Schools in CUSA.

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(02-27-2017 04:19 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  The Florida schools were invited for their potential, but they have yet to contribute to CUSA, and never really contributed to the Sun Belt either. They have poor fan support and no national brand. When do we cut our losses as a confernce and get rid of them? Can they be voted out and how many votes does it take?

Let's see how these football hires pan out first (though it would be nice if they even acted like they gave a damn about hoops). Considering who they hired, they could get really good really fast and have a great impact on the league.

And even if they don't get good, these hires may result in the death penalty for their programs. So, in that case, there would be no legal or monetary obligations for kicking them to the curb. 05-stirthepot
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(02-27-2017 04:32 PM)mrbig Wrote:  I was thinking of a similar situation recently, only regarding Tulane and the AAC (I live in New Orleans). Not sure what their media $$$ is from the New Orleans market, but good grief Tulane is pretty awful in all three revenue sports right now.

At least FAU has good baseball, even though that is the least important revenue sport. I think FAU and FIU would argue they have the potential to become programs like UH or Memphis. So it is more about potential impact than current contributions.

That's the problem. We have been associated with them since the Sun Belt days in the early 2000s and nothing has changed. Everyone kept saying just give them a little time and they will have huge fan bases and be competitive in football and basketball with all that South Florida talent. It has not happen, It has actually got worse. How long do we wait? In this new age of college athletics it is becoming increasingly hard to grow or even maintain a fan base. How are these teams that never had a fan base and aren't competitive in the major sports going to do it?
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(02-27-2017 07:08 PM)FIU Panther Fan Wrote:  


Can you actually dispute any of my points? What have you guys positively contributed to the conference?
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Its actually a decent point. The reason the basketball conference is rated so low is the amount of bottom 25/teams, not the talent up top. Cutting it would certainly improve rpi
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(02-27-2017 04:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  This isn't going to end well or at all.

They won't have mamy defending them. They have double the fans as they have message board users. So about 4 fans on the message boards.
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RE: Improving the conference by subtraction
(02-27-2017 04:19 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  If the Florida twins were pushed out of the conference how much better would we be?

- Divisions would improve bringing UAB back to the East and tightens up geography.

New divisions would be.

EAST
MT
WKU
Marshall
UAB
Charlotte
Old Dominion

West
Southern Miss
Rice
NT
UTSA
UTEP
LA Tech

- Improves conference competitiveness overall by dropping the teams that finish at the bottom in football and basketball annualy, thus improving conference rpi in basketball and W/L record in football.

- Will not hurt TV revenue, as we get very little, so their media markets are a moot point.

- Will divide College football playoff money by two less teams.

- Allows us to go back to 14 members later if two good schools present themselves.

The Florida schools were invited for their potential, but they have yet to contribute to CUSA, and never really contributed to the Sun Belt either. They have poor fan support and no national brand. When do we cut our losses as a confernce and get rid of them? Can they be voted out and how many votes does it take?

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This is dumb.
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RE: Improving the conference by subtraction
Set the Texas schools free, cut down the travel cost, keep the conference to 10 teams (developing familiarity by playing each team every year in football and H & H in basketball).
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It's not dumb, and it's not unprecedented. That said, I think the Florida schools could do well down the road but until we see results it's hard to really support them year after year of poor play except in baseball lol
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Really people? You know you can't start these kind of threads. Learn to behave please.
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