(02-27-2017 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:40 AM)passat25 Wrote:  Idiotic thread... Tubby needs more time to rebuild the program.. Pastner destroyed Memphis basketball.. Make us irrelevant.

I thought Cal nuked the program?

So Pastner "left behind" a McDAA (oh and the AAC Preseason POY) and three other top 100 recruits. That is destroying the program?

Good lord people.

^^^THIS^^^

http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...38641.html

If we fire him we have to pay "as liquidated damages an amount equal to 100% of the remaining balance of total compensation through the end of the term of the agreement with no mitigation or offset obligations applicable in such event." Assuming we don't sign any sort of extensions, that means 12.65 million after this season, 9.75 after next, 6.5 after season 3 (Five year contract, 2.8 million for year one, 2.9 million next year, and then 3.25 million in the three remaining years after that).

(02-27-2017 12:01 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...38641.html

If we fire him we have to pay "as liquidated damages an amount equal to 100% of the remaining balance of total compensation through the end of the term of the agreement with no mitigation or offset obligations applicable in such event." Assuming we don't sign any sort of extensions, that means 12.65 million after this season, 9.75 after next, 6.5 after season 3 (Five year contract, 2.8 million for year one, 2.9 million next year, and then 3.25 million in the three remaining years after that).

Well then it appears that everyone should just relax and enjoy the ride. The man is going to be here at least 3 more years.

I wasn't crazy about the hire but I suppose they could have done worse.

He came in fighting an uphill battle because the patience of much of the fan base was already worn pretty thin. Still, it seems like he and his staff could have worked a little harder and done more with this year's team / roster.

It just feels like the program is treading water at this point.

(02-27-2017 01:44 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  I tried to tell you people. Tubby was a disastrous hire. He is just mailing it in. And while he is sitting back and collecting his millions, this program is getting driven to extinction. What a mess.

(02-27-2017 12:17 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:01 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  http://archive.commercialappeal.com/spor...38641.html

If we fire him we have to pay "as liquidated damages an amount equal to 100% of the remaining balance of total compensation through the end of the term of the agreement with no mitigation or offset obligations applicable in such event." Assuming we don't sign any sort of extensions, that means 12.65 million after this season, 9.75 after next, 6.5 after season 3 (Five year contract, 2.8 million for year one, 2.9 million next year, and then 3.25 million in the three remaining years after that).

Well then it appears that everyone should just relax and enjoy the ride. The man is going to be here at least 3 more years.

I wasn't crazy about the hire but I suppose they could have done worse.

He came in fighting an uphill battle because the patience of much of the fan base was already worn pretty thin. Still, it seems like he and his staff could have worked a little harder and done more with this year's team / roster.

It just feels like the program is treading water at this point.

Casual fan apathy is as high as I have ever seen. Like OM and TN football fans I know who had season tickets. Us diehards will always support (and probably critique) the program.

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

(02-27-2017 12:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

Four top 100 guys on the roster?

Interesting.

(02-27-2017 12:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

Four top 100 guys on the roster?

Interesting.

How many on the bench doe? Interesting. The cupboard is dry. He needs time. It took Cal 5 seasons. It took Opie 8 to prove he couldn't do it.

Tubbs has gotten a lot out of what he has. With no bench they run out of gas. ''Tis what it is.

(02-27-2017 08:16 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  It is really getting hard to distinguish these new posters from TubbyTime

(02-27-2017 07:27 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:44 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  I tried to tell you people. Tubby was a disastrous hire. He is just mailing it in. And while he is sitting back and collecting his millions, this program is getting driven to extinction. What a mess.

If he planned on mailing it in why did he not stay at TTU? Where he was loved and already set up?

Yep and a million dollar a year raise offered in the last hour to stay there

(02-27-2017 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:40 AM)passat25 Wrote:  Idiotic thread... Tubby needs more time to rebuild the program.. Pastner destroyed Memphis basketball.. Make us irrelevant.

I thought Cal nuked the program?

So Pastner "left behind" a McDAA (oh and the AAC Preseason POY) and three other top 100 recruits. That is destroying the program?

Good lord people.

(02-27-2017 07:27 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:44 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  I tried to tell you people. Tubby was a disastrous hire. He is just mailing it in. And while he is sitting back and collecting his millions, this program is getting driven to extinction. What a mess.

If he planned on mailing it in why did he not stay at TTU? Where he was loved and already set up?

This is an easy one to answer. Basically all aspects of both jobs are the same, except for one HUGE difference. Memphis (the city) is known as a hotbed of talent, always has been. Tubby's one knock has always been his unwillingness to recruit. Now he has a ready-made recruiting base right under his nose. Recruiting problem solved.


Only problem: It's a myth. Not my words, straight from Cal's mouth.

It's amazing how irrational humans can be. You guys are in a special category

(02-27-2017 12:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

Four top 100 guys on the roster?

Interesting.

How many on the bench doe? Interesting. The cupboard is dry. He needs time. It took Cal 5 seasons. It took Opie 8 to prove he couldn't do it.

Tubbs has gotten a lot out of what he has. With no bench they run out of gas. ''Tis what it is.

Whose fault is that?

He has Clergeot, Kessee, Randall, and Chad off the bench.

We've been through this a lot. Many, many CBB schools play a real rotation of 7-8 players tops.

And of course, when Beard took over TT, he had 5 scholarship players left from Tubby's team (three starters, two bench). Beard brought in five players--and he was hired (obviously) AFTER Tubby to Tech.

(02-27-2017 12:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

Four top 100 guys on the roster?

Interesting.

How many on the bench doe? Interesting. The cupboard is dry. He needs time. It took Cal 5 seasons. It took Opie 8 to prove he couldn't do it.

Tubbs has gotten a lot out of what he has. With no bench they run out of gas. ''Tis what it is.

Whose fault is that?

He has Clergeot, Kessee, Randall, and Chad off the bench.

We've been through this a lot. Many, many CBB schools play a real rotation of 7-8 players tops.

And of course, when Beard took over TT, he had 5 scholarship players left from Tubby's team (three starters, two bench). Beard brought in five players--and he was hired (obviously) AFTER Tubby to Tech.

Beard has done a PHENOMONAL job @ TT

(02-27-2017 12:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

Four top 100 guys on the roster?

Interesting.

^^^THIS^^^

(02-27-2017 12:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:38 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:31 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:29 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  

(02-26-2017 11:45 PM)Dynamos Wrote:  GIVE THE MAN SOME GOT DAMN TIME TO REBUILD THE PROGRAM

Yup. Gonna take a long time to rebuild what Opie tore down.

Four top 100 guys on the roster?

Interesting.

How many on the bench doe? Interesting. The cupboard is dry. He needs time. It took Cal 5 seasons. It took Opie 8 to prove he couldn't do it.

Tubbs has gotten a lot out of what he has. With no bench they run out of gas. ''Tis what it is.

Whose fault is that?

He has Clergeot, Kessee, Randall, and Chad off the bench.

We've been through this a lot. Many, many CBB schools play a real rotation of 7-8 players tops.

And of course, when Beard took over TT, he had 5 scholarship players left from Tubby's team (three starters, two bench). Beard brought in five players--and he was hired (obviously) AFTER Tubby to Tech.

^^^^THIS^^^^

(02-27-2017 12:48 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  And of course, when Beard took over TT, he had 5 scholarship players left from Tubby's team (three starters, two bench). Beard brought in five players--and he was hired (obviously) AFTER Tubby to Tech.

You don't say.......

Good short take by Mark G. (beat writer) on season and fan base this season referring to a possible 4 game run in conference tourney:

This, of course, is the optimistic view of the hole Memphis now finds itself. It is one loss away from dropping five straight games for the first time since 2000, and the variance in play from game-to-game and even minute-to-minute are becoming increasingly distressing for a fan base yearning for immediate gratification.

(02-27-2017 10:08 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 12:40 AM)passat25 Wrote:  Idiotic thread... Tubby needs more time to rebuild the program.. Pastner destroyed Memphis basketball.. Make us irrelevant.

I thought Cal nuked the program?

So Pastner "left behind" a McDAA (oh and the AAC Preseason POY) and three other top 100 recruits. That is destroying the program?

Good lord people.

Cal didn't leave a bunch of proven players...But the program and the brand was at an all time high...

Josh left less proven players with the program and the brand at one it's lower points.

Is it easier to recruit to a school that just came off the winningest streak in history or one that hasn't made it to the postseason in two years.