(02-27-2017 01:09 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  He is right on course. He has a history of not getting recruits and having double digits losing seasons. We all knew this but our dumb president that overstepped Bowen and hired him.

Surely, you cannot be for real.

(02-27-2017 08:06 AM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:09 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  He is right on course. He has a history of not getting recruits and having double digits losing seasons. We all knew this but our dumb president that overstepped Bowen and hired him.

Surely, you cannot be for real.

I wouldn't waste another second of your time responding to some of our idiotic fanbase!! Pastner nuked this program but Tubby is supposed to win big time with maybe 4 decent to good players in his first years. Complete dumbasses

It is really getting hard to distinguish these new posters from TubbyTime

(02-27-2017 08:15 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 08:06 AM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:09 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  He is right on course. He has a history of not getting recruits and having double digits losing seasons. We all knew this but our dumb president that overstepped Bowen and hired him.

Surely, you cannot be for real.

I wouldn't waste another second of your time responding to some of our idiotic fanbase!! Pastner nuked this program but Tubby is supposed to win big time with maybe 4 decent to good players in his first years. Complete dumbasses

You're absolutely right!!

(02-27-2017 06:52 AM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:44 AM)JMSTiger Wrote:  I tried to tell you people. Tubby was a disastrous hire. He is just mailing it in. And while he is sitting back and collecting his millions, this program is getting driven to extinction. What a mess.

its season ONE of Tubby's time here. The man can coach..and he needs time to recruit (yeah I know how THAT sounds).
Very rarely is a coaching situation fixed in just ONE year...that Josh made.
Tubby has to win back the fans AND the recruits that once wanted to play here growing up.
Needs another year or two to get this ship going. When he does..it will be what we envisioned when we hired him...I believe that.
We knew coming in when this season started that we lacked depth. Well, that has bit us on the azz big time.
Be patient.

Tubby is doing what Tubby does. This isn't a subpar Tubby year. You could debate whether or not Josh would improve and learn. Or whether Josh's recruits would overcome his lack of coaching. But Tubby is Tubby. Always has been the same. This is a typical Tubby year. As a bottom feeder of a P5 conf with these same results he's tourney bound and a Hall of Fame coach.

(02-27-2017 08:21 AM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 08:15 AM)ZachMan Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 08:06 AM)Ttaylor Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 01:09 AM)FORealTigerFan Wrote:  He is right on course. He has a history of not getting recruits and having double digits losing seasons. We all knew this but our dumb president that overstepped Bowen and hired him.

Surely, you cannot be for real.

I wouldn't waste another second of your time responding to some of our idiotic fanbase!! Pastner nuked this program but Tubby is supposed to win big time with maybe 4 decent to good players in his first years. Complete dumbasses

You're absolutely right!!

It's called putting him on your Ignore List.

You dudes would've fire Cal in year 1....or year 2.....or year 3....

Dear lord. Give the man some time. He basically has 4 players worth a damn and they are worn out playing 40 minutes a game.

Perhaps he will end up a disaster but you dont know that with any certainty right now.

(02-27-2017 12:40 AM)passat25 Wrote:  Idiotic thread... Tubby needs more time to rebuild the program.. Pastner destroyed Memphis basketball.. Make us irrelevant.

I thought Cal nuked the program?

So Pastner "left behind" a McDAA (oh and the AAC Preseason POY) and three other top 100 recruits. That is destroying the program?

Good lord people.

Give the man some time for cripes sake!

I'm holding off until I see what the recruiting for next season looks like in finality.

(02-27-2017 10:11 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Give the man some time for cripes sake!

Here's my question...

All of the "he'll coach em up" proponents--

Isn't the idea of "coaching guys up" under the premise you will beat the teams you are supposed to beat, play evenly vs. similarly talented teams, and maybe take one once in a while from better teams?

If that is the measurement, how has he "coached em up" vs. Monmouth (blew a 12 point 2nd half lead), @Tulsa, UConn (blew a 17 point lead), outscored 44-23 vs. Providence after being up 28-16, vs. Temple (4-11 in AAC games not vs. Memphis) and the 25-3 run, etc.

I guess we can point to the USCe game as a "steal" but we now know the OU game was fools gold.

(02-27-2017 10:29 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:11 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Give the man some time for cripes sake!

Here's my question...

All of the "he'll coach em up" proponents--

Isn't the idea of "coaching guys up" under the premise you will beat the teams you are supposed to beat, play evenly vs. similarly talented teams, and maybe take one once in a while from better teams?

If that is the measurement, how has he "coached em up" vs. Monmouth (blew a 12 point 2nd half lead), @Tulsa, UConn (blew a 17 point lead), vs. Temple (4-11 in AAC games not vs. Memphis) and the 25-3 run, etc.

I guess we can point to the USCe game as a "steal" but we now know the OU game was fools gold.

Tell you want, go find us a new coach then.

(02-27-2017 10:32 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:29 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:11 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Give the man some time for cripes sake!

Here's my question...

All of the "he'll coach em up" proponents--

Isn't the idea of "coaching guys up" under the premise you will beat the teams you are supposed to beat, play evenly vs. similarly talented teams, and maybe take one once in a while from better teams?

If that is the measurement, how has he "coached em up" vs. Monmouth (blew a 12 point 2nd half lead), @Tulsa, UConn (blew a 17 point lead), vs. Temple (4-11 in AAC games not vs. Memphis) and the 25-3 run, etc.

I guess we can point to the USCe game as a "steal" but we now know the OU game was fools gold.

Tell you want, go find us a new coach then.

That isn't the discussion.

Has Tubby "coached em up" this year?

(02-27-2017 10:11 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Give the man some time for cripes sake!

Given the buyout, there's really no other choice.

I'm just glad I'm not the guy who stroked the checks for the last 3 years - talk about $10+ million down the drain.

(02-27-2017 10:36 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  I'm just glad I'm not the guy who stroked the checks for the last 3 years - talk about $10+ million down the drain.

Probably written with the same angst as an alimony check.

(02-27-2017 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:32 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:29 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:11 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Give the man some time for cripes sake!

Here's my question...

All of the "he'll coach em up" proponents--

Isn't the idea of "coaching guys up" under the premise you will beat the teams you are supposed to beat, play evenly vs. similarly talented teams, and maybe take one once in a while from better teams?

If that is the measurement, how has he "coached em up" vs. Monmouth (blew a 12 point 2nd half lead), @Tulsa, UConn (blew a 17 point lead), vs. Temple (4-11 in AAC games not vs. Memphis) and the 25-3 run, etc.

I guess we can point to the USCe game as a "steal" but we now know the OU game was fools gold.

Tell you want, go find us a new coach then.

That isn't the discussion.

Has Tubby "coached em up" this year?

He's coached up Martin pretty well.

(02-27-2017 10:49 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:33 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:32 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:29 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-27-2017 10:11 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Give the man some time for cripes sake!

Here's my question...

All of the "he'll coach em up" proponents--

Isn't the idea of "coaching guys up" under the premise you will beat the teams you are supposed to beat, play evenly vs. similarly talented teams, and maybe take one once in a while from better teams?

If that is the measurement, how has he "coached em up" vs. Monmouth (blew a 12 point 2nd half lead), @Tulsa, UConn (blew a 17 point lead), vs. Temple (4-11 in AAC games not vs. Memphis) and the 25-3 run, etc.

I guess we can point to the USCe game as a "steal" but we now know the OU game was fools gold.

Tell you want, go find us a new coach then.

That isn't the discussion.

Has Tubby "coached em up" this year?

He's coached up Martin pretty well.

That's awesome if he's a personal trainer.

However, he's the HC for the Tigers.

I heard, ad nauseum, how the benefit of Tubby would be that he could take "a bunch of players" who underperformed and "coach em up."

I simply want to know if people in the "he'll coach em up" camp believe that Tubby has coached this team up this year (especially in light of the games referenced above)?

(02-26-2017 10:06 PM)Bathtub Gin Wrote:  Also what would he owe the school if he walked away?

Quote:New University of Memphis men's basketball coach Tubby Smith's five-year, $15.45 million contract has no automatic rollovers, a $500,000 buyout clause and a salary pool for assistant coaches and support staff totaling more than $930,000.

Smith will receive $2.8 million this season, $2.9 next year and $3.25 million in the final three years of his contract.

If Memphis elects to terminate Smith's employment without cause, it will pay him "as liquidated damages an amount equal to 100% of the remaining balance of total compensation through the end of the term of the agreement with no mitigation or offset obligations applicable in such event."

"To (U of M) president (David) Rudd's credit, it's now a recalibrated standard contract that's 100-percent defendable," said Tigers athletic director Tom Bowen.