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RE: Nippert Defilement - Saw it Tonight
(10-17-2017 12:37 PM)Banter Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 12:13 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 11:33 AM)JackieTreehorn Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 10:49 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  I know Cincinnati is slightly larger than Columbus but Columbus is growing and the only other pro franchise is the NHL. Seems a stupid move to take a team out of Columbus only to grant us an expansion team.

You forgot their other pro franchise, tO$U. The football team alone is valued at $1.5 billion, which is more than most NFL franchises and they don't even have to pay the players.

Yup. I won't pretend to know much, if anything, about soccer. But I've probably spent, on average, a day a week in Columbus for work the past 10 years and I've never heard anyone discuss the Crew. Come to think of it, I don't think I've heard anyone discuss the Bengals or Browns. Every now and then I'll get some Reds discussion. But otherwise it's OSU 24/7.

Can't think of anything further from the truth. OSU, Browns, Bengals, Bluejackets, Crew, Indians, Reds, Cavs come up in daily conversations around here. Ill admit the Cleveland teams come up a lot more than the Cincinnati teams.

Interesting. Never heard any of my clients discuss the Crew. Not once. Ever.
 
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(10-17-2017 12:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Why would he do anything to jeopardize the contract he already has? Dude would be insane to try to do that after already having the county on the books for literally ANY change made to the current setup.

Because average market deal in a brand new stadium is most likely greater than sweetheart (corrupt) deal in 20 year old stadium.
 
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RE: Nippert Defilement - Saw it Tonight
(10-17-2017 03:02 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 12:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Why would he do anything to jeopardize the contract he already has? Dude would be insane to try to do that after already having the county on the books for literally ANY change made to the current setup.

Because average market deal in a brand new stadium is most likely greater than sweetheart (corrupt) deal in 20 year old stadium.

I would agree with you IF he hadn't already pulverized the good faith argument with the last deal. It would be career suicide for any politician or holder of public office to hitch their wagon to a stadium deal at the amount they'd be asking for ($500,000,000+ in value/incentives) and the city and county have already kind of shoo-shooed a deal asking for a fraction of that. I bet Lindner et al would be crying tears of joy if Brown threatened to leave.
 
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RE: Nippert Defilement - Saw it Tonight
(10-17-2017 03:07 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 03:02 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 12:01 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Why would he do anything to jeopardize the contract he already has? Dude would be insane to try to do that after already having the county on the books for literally ANY change made to the current setup.

Because average market deal in a brand new stadium is most likely greater than sweetheart (corrupt) deal in 20 year old stadium.

I would agree with you IF he hadn't already pulverized the good faith argument with the last deal. It would be career suicide for any politician or holder of public office to hitch their wagon to a stadium deal at the amount they'd be asking for ($500,000,000+ in value/incentives) and the city and county have already kind of shoo-shooed a deal asking for a fraction of that. I bet Lindner et al would be crying tears of joy if Brown threatened to leave.
Oh, I agree. I'm not saying he gets it. Only that he's going to start asking for it.
 
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(10-17-2017 09:35 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  The Hispanic population. Ok, I can buy that. Isn't FC Dallas struggling attendance wise though compared to the rest of MLS? Or was that last year, or am I making things up? Sure, it's farther north, but it's much larger than Austin. It seems they really want this Austin market enough to bail on the OG MLS city, so there's obviously more at play than I understand. Still, it's a damn shame for Columbus and it's fans.

Yeah, I am an FC Dallas season Ticket holder. Getting people in the seats is a struggle, but the FCD Front Office (Clark/Dan Hunt<--yeah, those Hunts) put in little to no effort to market the team in one of the fastest growing cities & hottest youth soccer markets in the US. The Frisco/Plano area is booming and FCD has an outstanding academy program. With the DFW Metroplex having close to 7 million people; you'd think they could fill a tiny 20K stadium...but nope. The main gripe around here is the lack of any "big name" talent, but the FCD has 5 players that are regulars for their National Teams (including Kellyn Acosta, who was an FCD Academy product now USMNT player). I think there is a lot the FCD Front Office can learn from what FC Cincinnati was able to do.

You'd have to think the move from Columbus to Austin is a good thing for FC Cincinnati's MLS bid.
 
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