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(04-24-2017 10:58 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 10:22 AM)geef Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:46 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  Yes, hopefully we'll be able to make a pile of dough out of it

Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

You spent an awful lot of time calling "BS", when you completely missed what OKIcat was saying. He wasn't claiming that all of what he listed was happening. He was saying that UC needs to be holding FCC's feet to the fire more in asking them to cross promote the university. I think we'd all agree on that.

Cross promotion is not necessary. Our campus sells itself.

I've spent a lot of time on college campuses - I know about 15 campuses intimately and have visited another 2 or 3 dozen in the past decade. UC is the nicest of the bunch.

Even if UC just had an average campus like OSU or Indiana, getting suburbanites whose only knowledge of Clifton comes from the local news to come on campus would upgrade their opinion of UC.

The campus absolutely sells itself, but the opportunity to buy tickets to UC events doesn't sell itself. That's where cross promotion can and should come in.

I can believe FC Cincinnati helps the University.

I have seen just two hours north of campus where people always asked me if I felt safe letting my kids go to UC. But as the football team got better, some locals starting going to the occasional game. A player from a town 20 minutes away started playing for UC, bringing in more fans. UC gear started showing up in the schools where I was substitute teaching, and the number of kids attending UC from those schools started growing each year. No one has asked me about the campus being "dangerous" for a couple of years now.

The area is still an OSU swamp, but it gets a little more UC all the time. It would be great if the school made more of an effort to promote itself up here north of Dayton.

Did I really just read that any evidence FCC will help our sports programs is "anecdotal"? I think the better word choice would have been "logical" or "intuitive."

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(04-24-2017 11:46 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Did I really just read that any evidence FCC will help our sports programs is "anecdotal"? I think the better word choice would have been "logical" or "intuitive."

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No... I provided an account to back up my point and admitted it was "anecdotal."

(04-24-2017 11:24 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  I can believe FC Cincinnati helps the University.

I have seen just two hours north of campus where people always asked me if I felt safe letting my kids go to UC. But as the football team got better, some locals starting going to the occasional game. A player from a town 20 minutes away started playing for UC, bringing in more fans. UC gear started showing up in the schools where I was substitute teaching, and the number of kids attending UC from those schools started growing each year. No one has asked me about the campus being "dangerous" for a couple of years now.

The area is still an OSU swamp, but it gets a little more UC all the time. It would be great if the school made more of an effort to promote itself up here north of Dayton.

It's insufferable at times, but I see at least one Bearcat every time I go out. It's fun to talk football/basketball about a team I actually care about.

(04-24-2017 12:03 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 11:46 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Did I really just read that any evidence FCC will help our sports programs is "anecdotal"? I think the better word choice would have been "logical" or "intuitive."

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No... I provided an account to back up my point and admitted it was "anecdotal."

Isn't most marketing activity and resulting data "anecdotal" for the most part? For a clergyman, you could stand to have a little bit more faith on this matter.

(02-24-2017 11:30 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  They don't. My guess is the owner of the Atlanta team is not one of Georgia Tech's largest donors. But I could be wrong.

Atlanta United's MLS Owner is Arthur Blank, Founder of Home Depot and owner of the Atlanta Faclons.

Atlanta United was suppose to play just their first 8 home games this season at Ga Tech then moved to the new $1.6 Billion Mercedez Benz Stadium, new home of the Atlanta Falcons.

However, construction delays have post-poned United's move to the stadium from early July to now early Sept.

The first sporting event now planned for the new stadium will be a Faclon's preseason game in late August, instead of the soccer game in early July.

Atlanta United leads the MLS in attendance this season, averaging 50,610 fans per game.

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:46 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:37 AM)jnewyouth Wrote:  FC Cincinnati just outdrew the Reds on Wednesday night. We are lucky to be part of something special. Here's hoping Nippert remains their home when (if) they get called up to MLS.

Yes, hopefully we'll be able to make a pile of dough out of it

Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

I find it funny the kid said "I don't watch lower-level schools." The same kid who is excited to watch minor league soccer. Someone might want to point out he is watching "lower-level" soccer. Some will never watch and give UC credit for any number of reasons. I am sure others are the opposite though.

FC Cincy did one amazing thing ... suddenly ended the suburbanite excuse that Clifton is the Beirut of Cincinnati. Suddenly Clifton is safe for soccer. Guess that excuse has been debunked.

There are ways to track the proposition of FCC fans translating into going to UC Football or Basketball games when they previously had not. Credit card info could be used to prove or debunk that concept. I doubt there will be much of an effect.

When facts are non your side argue the facts, when you have no proof just argue.

(04-24-2017 04:58 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:46 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:37 AM)jnewyouth Wrote:  FC Cincinnati just outdrew the Reds on Wednesday night. We are lucky to be part of something special. Here's hoping Nippert remains their home when (if) they get called up to MLS.

Yes, hopefully we'll be able to make a pile of dough out of it

Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

I find it funny the kid said "I don't watch lower-level schools." The same kid who is excited to watch minor league soccer. Someone might want to point out he is watching "lower-level" soccer. Some will never watch and give UC credit for any number of reasons. I am sure others are the opposite though.

FC Cincy did one amazing thing ... suddenly ended the suburbanite excuse that Clifton is the Beirut of Cincinnati. Suddenly Clifton is safe for soccer. Guess that excuse has been debunked.

I did roll my eyes at the comment. All my parishioners know that I am a UC fan.

Take a page out of recruiting-- whether a normal student or a student athlete--the most important step in that process is getting them on campus. Idk how significant the data might be, but we are now getting thousands of people on campus that would have otherwise never visited. Before considering anything else--i.e. how many of those people might stick around--it is, truly, intuitive to see the benefits that FCC entails for our University.

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I'm all for getting people on campus and the other side benefits that brings. But if FCC gets into the MLS hopefully we'll share greatly in that upside in terms of actual $$$.

(04-24-2017 05:23 PM)doss2 Wrote:  There are ways to track the proposition of FCC fans translating into going to UC Football or Basketball games when they previously had not. Credit card info could be used to prove or debunk that concept. I doubt there will be much of an effect.

When facts are non your side argue the facts, when you have no proof just argue.

I'd be interested to see this data as well. But if we're going to quantify how many people have decided to flip allegiances, or consider attending UC as a result of FCC, I can already tell you that the number is greater than zero. Maybe not enough to, in and of itself, justify the cost of it all, but certainly enough to be considered an irrefutable benefit to the program.



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(04-24-2017 06:02 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Maybe not enough to, in and of itself, justify the cost of it all, but certainly enough to be considered an irrefutable benefit to the program.

Wait, what? This soccer thing is costing UC? Who'da thunk that?!?

(04-24-2017 10:02 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:46 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:37 AM)jnewyouth Wrote:  FC Cincinnati just outdrew the Reds on Wednesday night. We are lucky to be part of something special. Here's hoping Nippert remains their home when (if) they get called up to MLS.

Yes, hopefully we'll be able to make a pile of dough out of it

Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

You nailed it to perfection.

These so called side benefits are anecdotal at best. The only benefit UC should expect is does FCC pay a fair price for the use after considering the "Special Features Demanded" and appeasing Prince Lindner.

We are not the Clifton/Corryville Chamber of Commerce charged with helping the area bars and eateries.

This is dumb.

It's 100% in UC's benefit to have businesses around campus thriving. What do you think prospective students look at as soon as they finish the on campus tour?

(04-24-2017 10:02 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:46 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:37 AM)jnewyouth Wrote:  FC Cincinnati just outdrew the Reds on Wednesday night. We are lucky to be part of something special. Here's hoping Nippert remains their home when (if) they get called up to MLS.

Yes, hopefully we'll be able to make a pile of dough out of it

Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

You nailed it to perfection.

These so called side benefits are anecdotal at best. The only benefit UC should expect is does FCC pay a fair price for the use after considering the "Special Features Demanded" and appeasing Prince Lindner.

We are not the Clifton/Corryville Chamber of Commerce charged with helping the area bars and eateries.

This is dumb.

It's 100% in UC's benefit to have businesses around campus thriving. What do you think prospective students look at as soon as they finish the on campus tour?

(04-24-2017 07:58 PM)#41 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 10:02 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 09:46 AM)Racinejake Wrote:  Yes, hopefully we'll be able to make a pile of dough out of it

Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

You nailed it to perfection.

These so called side benefits are anecdotal at best. The only benefit UC should expect is does FCC pay a fair price for the use after considering the "Special Features Demanded" and appeasing Prince Lindner.

We are not the Clifton/Corryville Chamber of Commerce charged with helping the area bars and eateries.

This is dumb.

It's 100% in UC's benefit to have businesses around campus thriving. What do you think prospective students look at as soon as they finish the on campus tour?

Using that logic UC should start running free commercials on the scoreboard and ribbon boards for all the bars and eateries around campus because it is 100% in UC's benefit.

(04-24-2017 10:30 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 07:58 PM)#41 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 10:02 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(04-24-2017 09:48 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  

(04-21-2017 10:33 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  Not only that, is UC leveraging these FCC crowds on campus to:
-promote/sell UC football tickets (promo pricing for a game, etc.)
-promote student enrollment, campus tours, etc.
-promote UC men's and women's soccer
promote UC licensed merchandise sales (I noticed the Bookstore now stocks FCC gear so if they're getting soccer fans in the door how about some cross promotion?).

As others have noted, the benefit of FCC is getting people Uptown and on our beautiful campus--many for the first time. UC needs to leverage that exposure to maximize the ROI of allowing FCC to call Clifton Campus home.

I'm going to call a marginal "BS" on some of this...

I don't doubt that getting people on campus helps raise UC's overall profile, but...
I don't think people coming to see FC-Cincinnati by-and-large are:
1) going to buy UC gear. They MAY buy FC-Cincinnati gear at the bookstore, but they are coming for FCC, not UC sports. So...
2) going to buy UC FB tickets. If they are (American) Football fans, they are already fans of other programs or levels of football. But they are coming to see soccer, not football. So I would be surprised if any number of FC-Cincinnati fans actually turn up at Nippert for a Bearcat FB game. (My anecdotal proof of this is that one of my Morgantown families has a kid working in Cincinnati now...He goes to FC-Cincinnati games regularly, sits in "The Bailey," and says he "loves it." But when asked about UC football, he says "It's trash," and "I don't watch lower-level schools." So...good luck at changing perceptions just by bringing people into the stadium.)
3) going to buy UC soccer tickets. As mentioned above, they are there to watch "FC-Cincinnati," not the Bearcats.

As a clergyman, I see this all the time with Churches who rent out their space/buildings to all sorts of outside groups with the hope that someone who attends some other function will start to come on Sundays. It is extremely rare that actually happens. People who come for some other function are coming for that expressed purpose, and when they are done with that purpose they leave and move onto the next thing. Granted, you are getting people into campus who see the campus and that's a good thing. But I think the other pieces are of dubious value.

You nailed it to perfection.

These so called side benefits are anecdotal at best. The only benefit UC should expect is does FCC pay a fair price for the use after considering the "Special Features Demanded" and appeasing Prince Lindner.

We are not the Clifton/Corryville Chamber of Commerce charged with helping the area bars and eateries.

This is dumb.

It's 100% in UC's benefit to have businesses around campus thriving. What do you think prospective students look at as soon as they finish the on campus tour?

Using that logic UC should start running free commercials on the scoreboard and ribbon boards for all the bars and eateries around campus because it is 100% in UC's benefit.

If I weren't convinced you were just trolling...

(04-24-2017 05:58 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  Take a page out of recruiting-- whether a normal student or a student athlete--the most important step in that process is getting them on campus. Idk how significant the data might be, but we are now getting thousands of people on campus that would have otherwise never visited. Before considering anything else--i.e. how many of those people might stick around--it is, truly, intuitive to see the benefits that FCC entails for our University.

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this is what I think is the biggest plus for UC as a whole in this whole FCC thing....especially for people who haven't been to campus in years and have a mental picture of what UC used to be. I have to think people have been coming and saying, "Wow, this isn't how I remembered UC, or Wow, this isn't like what I've heard about UC at all".