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WAC Conference Honors-Men's Basketball
Up to this point here are my WAC honors for men's basketball.

COY-Paul Weir-NMSU

POY-Dwayne Russell-GCU

WAC 1st Team:
Dwayne Russell-GCU
Ian Baker-NMSU
Trayon Palmer-Chicago State
Jaylen Airington-CSUB
Eli Chuha-NMSU

WAC 2nd Team:
Lavell Boyd-UMKC
Antonio Green-UTRGV
Matt Smith-CSUB
Kyle Steward-UMKC
Isacc Neilson-Utah Valley

WAC New Comer of the Year: Jemerrio Jones-NMSU

Just so the GCU posters know the WAC POY was not as clear cut as I thought when you look closer at the stats. Only Baker and Russell won WAC Player of the week 3 times each and Bakers Field Goal Percentage and Free throw percentage is better than Russell. Also, points per game and assist per game are very very close. Sorry but I know you GCU fans think Braun deserves something and he does, for his hustle and determination to come back. However, his play has not been worthy enough IMO to merit any awards this year. I know you'll say that it looks homer my selections but look at stats, awards and individual performance. It's possible Barnes may win COY if they win out but to not give it to Weir at 26-4 if NMSU wins out would be wrong. Chuha wins for the center position cause he is decent and their are not very many good centers in the league this year.
02-22-2017 11:15 AM
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RE: WAC Conference Honors-Men's Basketball
I think it's going to be tough to leave Nick Dixon or Fred Simms Jr off of honors lists, given the seasons each of them are having. In a guard heavy league like the WAC, I guess something will have to give. Either voters put 3-4 guards on each team, or some really deserving players will end up being left out.

I'm with you, in that there isn't a lot of strong front court play in the league. Guys like Chuha, Palmer, J. Jones, & maybe Smith deserve some recognition, but that's about it.
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02-22-2017 12:03 PM
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Deserving players are always left off but you can't put two players on team from the teams with the worst record in the conference.
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(02-22-2017 12:36 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  Deserving players are always left off but you can't put two players on team from the teams with the worst record in the conference.

I understand your point about them being on last place teams, but Dixon & Sims are also 2 of the top 3 scorers in the WAC. Dixon is actually averaging more points per game in conference play than Russell.

If you and I were voters, maybe we could say with certainty that they "can't" be awarded. However, this is the coaches and media we are talking about. I can't say anything is for certain when it comes to predicting what they'll do.
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Unless those guys were NBA caliber players they are not going to select a bunch of players from the last place and next to last place team. They might even diss Palmer who as an individual player deserves it. The guy is a stat stuffer and he is also good. Sometimes players have high averages because everyone else on the team sucks so they shoot a lot. I don't care if those guys have high scoring averages. I would take Russell and Baker over any other guard in the WAC and those two guys are the ones that deserve to be on the 1st team. Again, we still have 3 games to go and lot's could happen in those 3 games to influence the vote across the board for everything, including COY, POY and 1st and 2nd team selection. I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences.
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(02-22-2017 02:38 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  Unless those guys were NBA caliber players they are not going to select a bunch of players from the last place and next to last place team. They might even diss Palmer who as an individual player deserves it. The guy is a stat stuffer and he is also good. Sometimes players have high averages because everyone else on the team sucks so they shoot a lot. I don't care if those guys have high scoring averages. I would take Russell and Baker over any other guard in the WAC and those two guys are the ones that deserve to be on the 1st team. Again, we still have 3 games to go and lot's could happen in those 3 games to influence the vote across the board for everything, including COY, POY and 1st and 2nd team selection. I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences.

"I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences."

Maybe with a larger number of institutions and/or an improved level of talent in the WAC, it will necessitate this.

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(02-22-2017 03:23 PM)RunnerBall Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 02:38 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  Unless those guys were NBA caliber players they are not going to select a bunch of players from the last place and next to last place team. They might even diss Palmer who as an individual player deserves it. The guy is a stat stuffer and he is also good. Sometimes players have high averages because everyone else on the team sucks so they shoot a lot. I don't care if those guys have high scoring averages. I would take Russell and Baker over any other guard in the WAC and those two guys are the ones that deserve to be on the 1st team. Again, we still have 3 games to go and lot's could happen in those 3 games to influence the vote across the board for everything, including COY, POY and 1st and 2nd team selection. I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences.

"I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences."

Maybe with a larger number of institutions and/or an improved level of talent in the WAC, it will necessitate this.

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You think we should give everyone a participation trophy ?? Just giving you crap man. I like the two teams instead of three. It gives the kids something to push for if that's their goal. I personally don't think there is enough good players in the conference to make 3 teams.
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How about an all defensive team. I believe the WAC does not do that.
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(02-22-2017 04:27 PM)Trod0 Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 03:23 PM)RunnerBall Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 02:38 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  Unless those guys were NBA caliber players they are not going to select a bunch of players from the last place and next to last place team. They might even diss Palmer who as an individual player deserves it. The guy is a stat stuffer and he is also good. Sometimes players have high averages because everyone else on the team sucks so they shoot a lot. I don't care if those guys have high scoring averages. I would take Russell and Baker over any other guard in the WAC and those two guys are the ones that deserve to be on the 1st team. Again, we still have 3 games to go and lot's could happen in those 3 games to influence the vote across the board for everything, including COY, POY and 1st and 2nd team selection. I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences.

"I wish the WAC had 3rd team selection like most conferences."

Maybe with a larger number of institutions and/or an improved level of talent in the WAC, it will necessitate this.

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You think we should give everyone a participation trophy ?? Just giving you crap man. I like the two teams instead of three. It gives the kids something to push for if that's their goal. I personally don't think there is enough good players in the conference to make 3 teams.

Well, point taken, and that was kind of my point, that the size of the conference and improvement may warrant it. I can see how three is a stretch. Now, like was mentioned, an All-D team? Maybe the conference should do that; first team, second team and all-defensive team. How does that sound?




05-stirthepot Ok, who would get the "All-Defensive Award" ......for posters...on these boards? 03-hissyfit 03-melodramatic Kidding.......
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(02-22-2017 06:26 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  How about an all defensive team. I believe the WAC does not do that.

I actually think we do have an All Defensive Team. Baker, Basile, Mays, Siakam and Westendorf last year. There is also the All Newcomer team. 3rd team is too much, but I would like to see separate Offensive & Defensive POY awards. A guy like Siakam last year sweeps them both, but the WAC's best player on offense isn't always going to be strongest on defense (and vice versa). Would be nice to recognize both individuals if/when it happens that way.
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