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(02-21-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So what's the issue again? They search conservative media and report fake stories and correct the record citing facts along with supporting documentation.

Oh...I see...they don't allow you to spread your bull****. I see now what the issue is.

Carry on...

They alone determine what is true and false and pressure providers to accept their "truth." I see you don't recognize your history. Or even contemporary societies like China, Russia, Venezuela and the Arab world.
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(02-21-2017 11:02 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So what's the issue again? They search conservative media and report fake stories and correct the record citing facts along with supporting documentation.

Oh...I see...they don't allow you to spread your bull****. I see now what the issue is.

Carry on...

They alone determine what is true and false and pressure providers to accept their "truth." I see you don't recognize your history. Or even contemporary societies like China, Russia, Venezuela and the Arab world.

What in the hell are you talking about? They are a website. If you don't like what they produce, don't click on it!

You're VASTLY overrating their importance and influence on...well on anything.

They're nothing more than another Soros boogey-man rallying cry for the poor marginalized right wing.
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(02-21-2017 11:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 11:02 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So what's the issue again? They search conservative media and report fake stories and correct the record citing facts along with supporting documentation.

Oh...I see...they don't allow you to spread your bull****. I see now what the issue is.

Carry on...

They alone determine what is true and false and pressure providers to accept their "truth." I see you don't recognize your history. Or even contemporary societies like China, Russia, Venezuela and the Arab world.

What in the hell are you talking about? They are a website. If you don't like what they produce, don't click on it!

You're VASTLY overrating their importance and influence on...well on anything.

They're nothing more than another Soros boogey-man rallying cry for the poor marginalized right wing.

Well if you read the article, you would see they claim to have already influenced Facebook.
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(02-21-2017 11:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 11:09 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 11:02 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So what's the issue again? They search conservative media and report fake stories and correct the record citing facts along with supporting documentation.

Oh...I see...they don't allow you to spread your bull****. I see now what the issue is.

Carry on...

They alone determine what is true and false and pressure providers to accept their "truth." I see you don't recognize your history. Or even contemporary societies like China, Russia, Venezuela and the Arab world.

What in the hell are you talking about? They are a website. If you don't like what they produce, don't click on it!

You're VASTLY overrating their importance and influence on...well on anything.

They're nothing more than another Soros boogey-man rallying cry for the poor marginalized right wing.

Well if you read the article, you would see they claim to have already influenced Facebook.

And Trump claims to see people that don't exist.
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RE: Media Matters
(02-21-2017 11:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 09:12 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 08:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 06:19 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 04:56 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Soros pal David Brock, founded MediaMatters, who's live in lover for years was Comet Pizza owner James Alefantis.
Funny how everything makes its way back to that pizza place.

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And their lawyer Max Maccoby, who sits of the Board of Friends of the Orphans, part of a network that has homes all over Latin America for orphans. Like in Haiti where Huma's friend got arrested for trying to smuggle about 32 kids out of there.

The relationship alone would have buried a conservative.

Except for the simple fact that Silsby has no relationship whatsoever with Huma. But don't let that stop you.

10 AMCITS IN HAITI


From: Harold Hongju Koh
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2010-02-09 06:47
Subject: 10 AMCITS IN HAITI





UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015

RELEASE IN PART
B5

MEMORANDUM

TO: The Secretary

CC: Counselor Mills
Deputy Chief of Staff Sullivan
Assistant Secretary Crowley

FROM: Harold Hongju Koh, Legal Adviser

DATE: February 9,2010

RE: 10 Amcits in Haiti

You have asked about the USG's options regarding the 10 Amcits from Idaho in
Haiti, from the New Life Children's Refuge, who are currently being charged with child
abduction and criminal association crimes under Haitian law. Depending on the GOH's
intent, we believe the USG would have the following basic options:

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015 B5

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015

3

Please let us know if you need more information, and especially if you would like
us to contact DOJ to inquire further.

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015

4

From: Koh, Harold Hongju
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:47 PM
To: Tones, Susan; Johnson, Clifton M; Townley, Stephen G; Hooke, Kathleen H; Eichensehr, Kristen E;
Osborn, Judith L; Mathias, Stephen; Thessin, James H
Subject: FW: 10 AmCits and you FW: one Texan who is being detained in Hait


AP) HAITI PROSECUTORS URGE PRISON FOR US MISSIONARY


From: Huma Abedin
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2010-05-12 10:35
Subject: (AP) HAITI PROSECUTORS URGE PRISON FOR US MISSIONARY




https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05770420 Date: 08/31/2015

RELEASE IN FULL

From: Abedin, Huma <AbedinH@state.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:35 PM

To: H
Subject Fw: (AP) Haiti prosecutors urge prison for U.S. missionary


From: Morris, James M
To: NEWS-WHA; NEWS-Mahogany; NEWS-CA
Cc: SES-O_Shift-III

Sent: Thu May 13 17:21:58 2010
Subject: (AP) Haiti prosecutors urge prison for U.S. missionary


PORT-AU-PRINCE (AP) - Prosecutors say a U.S. missionary should spend 6 months in prison for trying to take 33 children
out of the country following the January 12 earthquake. Prosecutor Sonel Jean-Francois told a court it is clear Laura

Silsby knew she had broken Haitian law. The prosecutor spoke after the Idaho woman testified on the first day of her
trial.


http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads...9/King.pdf
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RE: Media Matters
(02-21-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So what's the issue again? They search conservative media and report fake stories and correct the record citing facts along with supporting documentation.

Oh...I see...they don't allow you to spread your bull****. I see now what the issue is.

Carry on...

You're OK with this?

Quote:Media Matters has already secured access to raw data from Facebook, Twitter, and other social media sites. We have also put in place the technology necessary to automatically mine white nationalist message boards and alt-right communities for our archive. We will now develop technologies and processes to systematically monitor and analyze this unfiltered data.

Quote:Social media platforms need help in identifying vulnerabilities and crafting solutions. To this end, Media Matters will serve as their partner, speaking to them in their language of big data and encouraging changes based on what we see happening in the landscape.

You're OK with a left-leaning group "helping" social media "craft solutions"? Are they including any left-wing fake news stories? There are plenty of those too outside of the MSM. I don't see anything in here about them fact checking left wing fake news (ie, Occupy Democrats) but I do see Media Matters president giving an interview to Salon on fake news. 03-lmfao

https://mediamatters.org/stories-and-int...-fake-news
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(02-21-2017 11:15 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 11:00 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 09:12 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 08:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(02-21-2017 06:19 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Funny how everything makes its way back to that pizza place.

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And their lawyer Max Maccoby, who sits of the Board of Friends of the Orphans, part of a network that has homes all over Latin America for orphans. Like in Haiti where Huma's friend got arrested for trying to smuggle about 32 kids out of there.

The relationship alone would have buried a conservative.

Except for the simple fact that Silsby has no relationship whatsoever with Huma. But don't let that stop you.

10 AMCITS IN HAITI


From: Harold Hongju Koh
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2010-02-09 06:47
Subject: 10 AMCITS IN HAITI





UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015

RELEASE IN PART
B5

MEMORANDUM

TO: The Secretary

CC: Counselor Mills
Deputy Chief of Staff Sullivan
Assistant Secretary Crowley

FROM: Harold Hongju Koh, Legal Adviser

DATE: February 9,2010

RE: 10 Amcits in Haiti

You have asked about the USG's options regarding the 10 Amcits from Idaho in
Haiti, from the New Life Children's Refuge, who are currently being charged with child
abduction and criminal association crimes under Haitian law. Depending on the GOH's
intent, we believe the USG would have the following basic options:

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015 B5

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015

3

Please let us know if you need more information, and especially if you would like
us to contact DOJ to inquire further.

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05769780 Date: 08/31/2015

4

From: Koh, Harold Hongju
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:47 PM
To: Tones, Susan; Johnson, Clifton M; Townley, Stephen G; Hooke, Kathleen H; Eichensehr, Kristen E;
Osborn, Judith L; Mathias, Stephen; Thessin, James H
Subject: FW: 10 AmCits and you FW: one Texan who is being detained in Hait


AP) HAITI PROSECUTORS URGE PRISON FOR US MISSIONARY


From: Huma Abedin
To: Hillary Clinton
Date: 2010-05-12 10:35
Subject: (AP) HAITI PROSECUTORS URGE PRISON FOR US MISSIONARY




https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05770420 Date: 08/31/2015

RELEASE IN FULL

From: Abedin, Huma <AbedinH@state.gov>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:35 PM

To: H
Subject Fw: (AP) Haiti prosecutors urge prison for U.S. missionary


From: Morris, James M
To: NEWS-WHA; NEWS-Mahogany; NEWS-CA
Cc: SES-O_Shift-III

Sent: Thu May 13 17:21:58 2010
Subject: (AP) Haiti prosecutors urge prison for U.S. missionary


PORT-AU-PRINCE (AP) - Prosecutors say a U.S. missionary should spend 6 months in prison for trying to take 33 children
out of the country following the January 12 earthquake. Prosecutor Sonel Jean-Francois told a court it is clear Laura

Silsby knew she had broken Haitian law. The prosecutor spoke after the Idaho woman testified on the first day of her
trial.


http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads...9/King.pdf

So by that logic...if I mention Donald Trump in an e-mail I now have a relationship with him? 01-wingedeagle

Dude, the state department does sometimes tries to help American citizens in trouble in other countries. Huma forwarded the details of Silsby's case to H. That's it.

Move along.
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Fake news from these clowns.

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Why is that fake news? That is the racist pepe symbol dude.

[Image: pepeok.jpg]

Hoft also included a frog emoji in his original tweet.
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(02-22-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is that fake news? That is the racist pepe symbol dude.

[Image: pepeok.jpg]

Hoft also included a frog emoji in his original tweet.

A cartoon frog is a racist symbol now? You guys are being out-maneuvered by a bunch of Gen Z 01-rivals posters and it's beautiful.

03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao
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Dude, if you continue to be this obtuse, I'm done with you.

Yes...if a group uses an image, ANY IMAGE, and attaches it to their hate cause, it becomes a symbol of their hate. Think Swastika. It used to be a religious symbol...now it's synonymous with Nazi's thanks to Hitler.

The "Jewish Cowbell" symbol (see the new AUP post) is banned from here for that very reason. Yes by itself it's just a parenthesis, but when used in another way, it's code for hate.
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(02-22-2017 10:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Why is that fake news? That is the racist pepe symbol dude.

[Image: pepeok.jpg]

Hoft also included a frog emoji in his original tweet.

I thought this was a 666 hand signal. Hmm, I guess I was wrong.
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(02-22-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, if you continue to be this obtuse, I'm done with you.

Yes...if a group uses an image, ANY IMAGE, and attaches it to their hate cause, it becomes a symbol of their hate. Think Swastika. It used to be a religious symbol...now it's synonymous with Nazi's thanks to Hitler.

The "Jewish Cowbell" symbol (see the new AUP post) is banned from here for that very reason. Yes by itself it's just a parenthesis, but when used in another way, it's code for hate.

So if pedophiles use a rainbow flag, it needs to be banned as a hate symbol?
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Thank Goodnees for RWT. I wouldn't have the patience to fact check you guys all the time. Don't engage in fake news and it won't be a problem. Every other post on my Facebook during the election had some falsehood about Hilary or a chain email about Trump that was totally wrong. Like how he leased his plane for free to the military. Some of the stuff was so outlandish. I applaud the effort and I'm glad someone is finally fighting back. Great job media matters! God bless Soros.
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(02-22-2017 07:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, if you continue to be this obtuse, I'm done with you.

Yes...if a group uses an image, ANY IMAGE, and attaches it to their hate cause, it becomes a symbol of their hate. Think Swastika. It used to be a religious symbol...now it's synonymous with Nazi's thanks to Hitler.

The "Jewish Cowbell" symbol (see the new AUP post) is banned from here for that very reason. Yes by itself it's just a parenthesis, but when used in another way, it's code for hate.

So if pedophiles use a rainbow flag, it needs to be banned as a hate symbol?

If they used to promote their cause or as a secret way to advance then yes it's a hate symbol. But that doesn't mean you ban it in it's original form. Also, that would not not mean it would be a hate symbol every time it's used. Just as pictures of frogs used by my daughter would not be hate symbols.

Again, same thing with the swastika. The original image of it was a religious symbol...but when it's slightly altered, it's a Nazi symbol.

Sorry that things like these actually require some thought. Is that really beneath us? To have to think?
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(02-22-2017 07:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Thank Goodnees for RWT. I wouldn't have the patience to fact check you guys all the time. Don't engage in fake news and it won't be a problem. Every other post on my Facebook during the election had some falsehood about Hilary or a chain email about Trump that was totally wrong. Like how he leased his plane for free to the military. Some of the stuff was so outlandish. I applaud the effort and I'm glad someone is finally fighting back. Great job media matters! God bless Soros.

Media Matters is no more than the other side of World Net Daily. Mach, somehow I doubt you think WND is't a shill and is credible - and you shouldn't. Media Matters shouldn't either.
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(02-23-2017 10:22 AM)Crebman Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 07:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Thank Goodnees for RWT. I wouldn't have the patience to fact check you guys all the time. Don't engage in fake news and it won't be a problem. Every other post on my Facebook during the election had some falsehood about Hilary or a chain email about Trump that was totally wrong. Like how he leased his plane for free to the military. Some of the stuff was so outlandish. I applaud the effort and I'm glad someone is finally fighting back. Great job media matters! God bless Soros.

Media Matters is no more than the other side of World Net Daily. Mach, somehow I doubt you think WND is't a shill and is credible - and you shouldn't. Media Matters shouldn't either.

You clearly do not view that site if you're making this comment. They do not write stories like WND and they do not promote conspiracy theories.

Instead, they post the actual words conservatives say and then debunk them with facts. They provide all the links to the original story and to the ones debunking them.

Even their commentary on the stories is pretty limited. They mostly let the words speak for themselves.
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(02-23-2017 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 07:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, if you continue to be this obtuse, I'm done with you.

Yes...if a group uses an image, ANY IMAGE, and attaches it to their hate cause, it becomes a symbol of their hate. Think Swastika. It used to be a religious symbol...now it's synonymous with Nazi's thanks to Hitler.

The "Jewish Cowbell" symbol (see the new AUP post) is banned from here for that very reason. Yes by itself it's just a parenthesis, but when used in another way, it's code for hate.

So if pedophiles use a rainbow flag, it needs to be banned as a hate symbol?

If they used to promote their cause or as a secret way to advance then yes it's a hate symbol. But that doesn't mean you ban it in it's original form. Also, that would not not mean it would be a hate symbol every time it's used. Just as pictures of frogs used by my daughter would not be hate symbols.

Again, same thing with the swastika. The original image of it was a religious symbol...but when it's slightly altered, it's a Nazi symbol.

Sorry that things like these actually require some thought. Is that really beneath us? To have to think?

Well if the left thought, the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia wouldn't be labelled a hate symbol by everyone who uses it.
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(02-23-2017 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 07:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 11:41 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Dude, if you continue to be this obtuse, I'm done with you.

Yes...if a group uses an image, ANY IMAGE, and attaches it to their hate cause, it becomes a symbol of their hate. Think Swastika. It used to be a religious symbol...now it's synonymous with Nazi's thanks to Hitler.

The "Jewish Cowbell" symbol (see the new AUP post) is banned from here for that very reason. Yes by itself it's just a parenthesis, but when used in another way, it's code for hate.

So if pedophiles use a rainbow flag, it needs to be banned as a hate symbol?

If they used to promote their cause or as a secret way to advance then yes it's a hate symbol. But that doesn't mean you ban it in it's original form. Also, that would not not mean it would be a hate symbol every time it's used. Just as pictures of frogs used by my daughter would not be hate symbols.

Again, same thing with the swastika. The original image of it was a religious symbol...but when it's slightly altered, it's a Nazi symbol.

Sorry that things like these actually require some thought. Is that really beneath us? To have to think?

Well if the left thought, the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia wouldn't be labelled a hate symbol by everyone who uses it.

No clue what you're talking about, but that sounds like an awfully sweeping generalization.
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