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(02-22-2017 01:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Sorry, but this arguing the source and not the subject matter is freaking asinine.

When you're in a perpetual state of denial, it's all you have.
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(02-22-2017 01:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Sorry, but this arguing the source and not the subject matter is freaking asinine.

When you're in a perpetual state of denial, it's all you have.

Coming from you buddy, that's rich. 03-lol
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(02-22-2017 01:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Sorry, but this arguing the source and not the subject matter is freaking asinine.

When you're in a perpetual state of denial, it's all you have.

Coming from you buddy, that's rich. 03-lol

I stay woke.
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(02-22-2017 01:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:22 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:18 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:15 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry...can't go there. That's like citing this board. Sorry.

Whatever dude. I'll take first hand accounts versus anything on this board and MSM has to offer. I'm talking about the worldnews subreddit, not r/funny, etc. You can lead a horse to water, ........ the funny thing is reddit is very very liberal and even I find that particular subreddit useful.

First hand accounts from anonymous internet posters. Sure. Enjoy yourself.

Did you even go to the link? I guess not given the ignorant retort. Anyway, if you bothered, you'd see there were first hand police reports on the incident in that post. Also posts from people that are actually in Sweden and know what the fak is going on. I'd take that any day versus second hand MSM reporting, etc. Sorry, but this arguing the source and not the subject matter is freaking asinine.

"Can't say it's all true"

Your words.

Yep, what makes that different from MSM?

It's common sense. You take the actual first hand police reports and you can tell the nonpartisan stuff. As usual, just ignore the ignorant partisans. They stand out like a sore thumb, just like here.
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(02-22-2017 01:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Sorry, but this arguing the source and not the subject matter is freaking asinine.

When you're in a perpetual state of denial, it's all you have.

It is lazy more than anything else. People live in their own bubble and only desire to read from sources that agree with them. Doing otherwise challenges there belief system and forces them to actually think and consider alternatives. That goes for both sides. These bubbles are what, IMO, has helped lead to the divisiveness across the country.
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(02-22-2017 01:38 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 01:26 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Sorry, but this arguing the source and not the subject matter is freaking asinine.

When you're in a perpetual state of denial, it's all you have.

It is lazy more than anything else. People live in their own bubble and only desire to read from sources that agree with them. Doing otherwise challenges there belief system and forces them to actually think and consider alternatives. That goes for both sides. These bubbles are what, IMO, has helped lead to the divisiveness across the country.

Dude, relax. I don't click on websites like that at my work anyway. sorry. If you have a link to one of the police reports from a Swedish paper something, I'll gladly read it. Thanks.
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(02-22-2017 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 12:30 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 12:16 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So guys, what caused this issue?

I'll hang up and wait........

Massive, nearly unchecked immigration of people who hate western liberal ideas into a western liberal society. Those people were then housed in what used to be middle class areas, away from the elite globalist who make policy.

Add a touch of "soft policing" and concern about white privileged and you've created hundreds of areas where a native sweeds would into be safe at night.

It's not about race, color, or religion. It's about restricting immigration to people who's culture is amenable to western liberal democratic ideals.

Source....that this caused this particular incident.

This didn't happen in a vacuum Tom, that's the point.

You want to ignore the immigration policy, demographics of the neighborhood(s), the documented behavior in these areas towards any journalist not under a police escort? Hell in some parts of Sweeden an ambulance can't go without a police escort.

55 dangerous no go zones..
[Image: no_go_schweden.jpg]

They have seen rising gun violence, more gang control, and the fastest growing wealth gap in the first world.

People point to "lower crime figures" without account for the fact that police are not doing a great job policing these no go areas because their presence only fuels problems.

Every time something like this happens the left screams "this is an isolated incident" and "racists" which just lets the growing problem fester. You're all ignoring the problem so you can maintain this smug feeling you get from being "more tolerant"

IOW you want to whistle past the graveyard.

In recent years, Sweden has taken in more refugees per-capita than any other European country, which has fueled tensions and caused a rise in anti-immigrant sentiment. - CNN

The violence in Rinkeby began around 8 p.m., when officers arrested a suspect at an underground station on drug charges - Fox

A drug Arrest Tom, this started because the police dared to step into an area of migrants and arrest someone for breaking the law. Because the attitude is "This is our area".

The neighborhood, Rinkeby, was the scene of riots in 2010 and 2013, too. And in most ways, what happened Monday night was reminiscent of those earlier bouts of anger. Swedish police apparently made an arrest on drug charges at about 8 p.m. near the Rinkeby station. - Washington Post

There are two forces at play right now in these areas

(1) Islamist
(2) Immigrant Gangs

The police lack the spine, or the support, to get in there and do their job. The Globalist who live in their nice gated communities will keep bringing people in, ignoring the problem, and calling those who address it xenophobes.
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Do you have a link for your no go zone map?
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(02-22-2017 02:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Do you have a link for your no go zone map?

Do you really care tom? Like do you seriously want to have a conversation about this or are you just trolling?

In February 2016, a news crew for Australia's 60 Minutes working with far right activist Jan Sjunnesson[46][47] allegedly under attack, including having stones thrown on them and a car running over the foot of a cameraman who was trying to prevent it from leaving in the immigrant-dominated district of Rinkeby of Stockholm.[48] 60 Minutes published the video, on which reporter Liz Hayes states "there are now 55 declared no-go zones in Sweden."[49]

In February 2017, reporter Ami Horowitz reported being assaulted while trying to investigate what he called a no-go area for police in Rinkeby.[50] -- Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area
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Sorry...just trying to determine if those zones were defined by Trump or by someone with an ounce of credibility on the matter.
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(02-22-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry...just trying to determine if those zones were defined by Trump or by someone with an ounce of credibility on the matter.

Those zones have been a thing for a while...
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(02-22-2017 03:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry...just trying to determine if those zones were defined by Trump or by someone with an ounce of credibility on the matter.

Those zones have been a thing for a while...

Well aware. But I'm also aware that they have been at times made up by politicians to fear monger about Muslims in the past.
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(02-22-2017 03:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 03:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(02-22-2017 03:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sorry...just trying to determine if those zones were defined by Trump or by someone with an ounce of credibility on the matter.

Those zones have been a thing for a while...

Well aware. But I'm also aware that they have been at times made up by politicians to fear monger about Muslims in the past.

Sooooo... Purposeful obtuseness then...
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Jeebus...well aware what they are in general terms. I was not speaking specifically about Sweden in that one reply.

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(02-22-2017 04:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Jeebus...well aware what they are in general terms. I was not speaking specifically about Sweden in that one reply.

You guys and your need for chapter and verse for every utterance is maddening. 03-melodramatic

Someone needs a safe space.
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