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Poll: Will your team play Liberty in football?
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Never 27.27% 24 27.27%
Home games only 30.68% 27 30.68%
Home and Home 22.73% 20 22.73%
Will play as schedule allows 19.32% 17 19.32%
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Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
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RE: Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
Watch Liberty used their bankroll to play 4 or5 home buy games with MAC/SBC/indies and have a cush schedule that sets them up for big winning years.
02-20-2017 12:54 PM
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RE: Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
(02-20-2017 12:54 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  Watch Liberty used their bankroll to play 4 or5 home buy games with MAC/SBC/indies and have a cush schedule that sets them up for big winning years.

Yea, but here's the rub with that.

You really want to be the school that took a payday game from a moveup independent? Its would be kind of like a "georgia state cash drop" moment.

Another problem is that SBC/Mac/indys need home games too. Most only will sell one game a year. And many teams schedule those games first.

I do agree with you on one thing. LU's schedule will likely be very easy. But even if LU manages to get to 7-5 playing a schedule like UTSA's first one in FBS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_UTSA_...tball_team which has to be the weakest FBS schedule ever, they'll not get much credit even if they go 8-4.
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(02-20-2017 11:57 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 11:39 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure if Coastal will schedule them. One one hand, given our conference history and competitiveness I think we would. On the other hand, given past history and comments from our coach basically saying that he didn't think we'd ever play them as our FCS school and that he wouldn't really miss playing them. The situation is different now so I'm not sure if them being FBS changes things or not.

The real issue Coastal has is that you need some home games. You can give one away game in 2018 but need a home game in 2019. I suppose you could schedule a home and home with NMSU instead.

No matter how badly you guys don't want to play LU, if you need a game, you'll probably schedule them. You played with LU for years so it makes sense that your fans won't get too upset about it either.

I think we are ok for home games in the next few years since there should be 4 SBC games, 1 FCS game, and the other home games already on our schedule.
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(02-20-2017 04:10 PM)rokamortis Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 11:57 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 11:39 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure if Coastal will schedule them. One one hand, given our conference history and competitiveness I think we would. On the other hand, given past history and comments from our coach basically saying that he didn't think we'd ever play them as our FCS school and that he wouldn't really miss playing them. The situation is different now so I'm not sure if them being FBS changes things or not.

The real issue Coastal has is that you need some home games. You can give one away game in 2018 but need a home game in 2019. I suppose you could schedule a home and home with NMSU instead.

No matter how badly you guys don't want to play LU, if you need a game, you'll probably schedule them. You played with LU for years so it makes sense that your fans won't get too upset about it either.

I think we are ok for home games in the next few years since there should be 4 SBC games, 1 FCS game, and the other home games already on our schedule.

With 1 FCS game, CCU is full for HOME games until 2021. CCU has an away game to give in 2018, 2019, and 2020. In theory, at least CCU is plausible as a potential game at LU. Now, I think that CCU might choose to sell a payday game those years (and probably against a big name), but maybe they'll sell a game to LU.
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RE: Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
UMass will definitely schedule Liberty, IMHO.
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I would have no objections to a home and home.
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(02-19-2017 04:53 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  If I said the universe was made of cheese I'm sure people would make fun of me even though that's a "diverse" opinion.

Good grief everybody knows that the entire universe is not made out of cheese. Only the moon is made out of cheese.
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(02-20-2017 09:09 AM)Old Blue Wrote:  I have nothing against Liberty University or it's mission. I say this is America the "land of the free". And if you ascribe to the Christian beliefs, by all means seek a Liberty education. No skin off my back. But as a fan of ODU this is how I would like to see a yearly OOC schedule unfold;
  • A money game. Because all G-5 programs could use the cash. This is a one and done road game.
  • An FCS home game. Because it gives you the best opportunity for a win to help with bowl eligibility.
  • One and one schedule with a P-5 team. This brings excitement to the schedule and always ensures you have that P-5 home game.
  • Or a one and one schedule with an AAC or MWC team.
If our goal is to eventually compete for the access bowl on a yearly basis, I honestly can't see Liberty being in the picture.

Admittedly my enthusiasm for ODU to play them is based solely on the fact that I live an hour from their stadium but I think we need some winnable G5 games in there as well. Imagine in 2022 we let Liberty buy out our Idaho home game (I can't imagine ID caring too much about that) and agree to play there that year and in Norfolk a future year. Add in a Norfolk St or Hampton FCS game and our OOC that year would be:


Norfolk St/Hampton
Virginia Tech
@ Virginia
@ Liberty

All Virginia schools. If we're an access worthy team we'll take it to the Hoos and Hokies and claim statewide glory, if not it's still a very fan friendly game.
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(02-21-2017 05:08 PM)Rabonchild Wrote:  
(02-19-2017 04:53 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  If I said the universe was made of cheese I'm sure people would make fun of me even though that's a "diverse" opinion.

Good grief everybody knows that the entire universe is not made out of cheese. Only the moon is made out of cheese.

One of Saturn's moons has oceans of Grape Nehi
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RE: Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
With 10 days to go there's still time to vote in the poll. A perspectives so far:

Never - 27.5%
Home only - 32.5%
Home and Away - 27.75%
As schedule allows - 16.25%

To date, the 27.5% Never wanting to play LU is likely a smaller % than one would have thought and that equates to 72.5% are receptive to playing LU.

Surprising that only 16.25% would play as schedule allows. One would have thought that would have been higher.

To date, 80 votes have been cast in the poll.
03-06-2017 09:05 AM
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(03-06-2017 09:05 AM)NewTimes Wrote:  With 10 days to go there's still time to vote in the poll. A perspectives so far:

Never - 27.5%
Home only - 32.5%
Home and Away - 27.75%
As schedule allows - 16.25%

To date, the 27.5% Never wanting to play LU is likely a smaller % than one would have thought and that equates to 72.5% are receptive to playing LU.

Surprising that only 16.25% would play as schedule allows. One would have thought that would have been higher.

To date, 80 votes have been cast in the poll.


You'll figure out your home games. You might have to play home and home in the same season with NMSU, but you'll get them. Do that and you only need to find 2 FBS home games in 2018, and 4 in 2019 (you only need 5 FBS games plus one qualifying FCS game). You'll have no trouble getting payday away games, but you might need to do it at a discount. For LU, the bigger problem is going to be late season scheduling.

I wouldn't confuse this board as being representative of the college community in general. It appears to skew heavily male, heavily Anglo, and appears to be more conservative than the general community. That's not a bad thing necessarily, but know that there are lots of interests at college communities that don't appear to be highly represented here.
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RE: Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
It's not so much about "not wanting to" play Liberty, but honestly, if you're outside of certain demographics--regional, religious, or FB independence-- why would you schedule Liberty? Cincinnati has no reasons "to" seek out a contract with Liberty at this time.

Otherwise I'm indifferent to scheduling them.

(02-17-2017 09:16 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  First, I'm only a fan... I have no control over whom The University of Cincinnati schedules, but...

I doubt we ever play Liberty outside of a bowl fluke... There's no reason to.
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(03-06-2017 10:04 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  It's not so much about "not wanting to" play Liberty, but honestly, if you're outside of certain demographics--regional, religious, or FB independence-- why would you schedule Liberty? Cincinnati has no reasons "to" seek out a contract with Liberty at this time.

Otherwise I'm indifferent to scheduling them.

(02-17-2017 09:16 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  First, I'm only a fan... I have no control over whom The University of Cincinnati schedules, but...

I doubt we ever play Liberty outside of a bowl fluke... There's no reason to.

That's the bigger issue. Whats the upside for playing LU for a non-local team?

Here are LU's non-political liabilities.

1) They're in an area that has little recruiting/fanbase appeal for many teams. That's common for many programs, but you're not Old Dominion or Georgia State (or even UMass which can play teams in Boston - which fans like) or even the F_U's, which are in South Florida. The vast majority of schools have few local alumni in the area.

2) LU has no history. LU is not alone in that, but putting LU, especially a road game on the schedule would be a real eye opener for many fanbases, and not in a good way. When USA scheduled home games with NC State and Oklahoma State (even as 2 for 1's, their fanbases weren't happy with that). LU also isn't like Bowling Green or Arkansas State, who can at least point to some success.

3) LU is kind of hard to get to as well for many teams. I think that for MWC teams, flying across the country, especially late in the season, is not going to be seen as a positive thing. Sure, the team can charter in, but for fans, LU is 2 hours away from the nearest mid-sized airport, and 4 hours from the nearest major airport.

Basically, Georgia Southern has the same non-political scheduling liabilities as LU will likely have. But Ga Southern has seen some success, but that's offset by the fact that Ga Southern plays an offensive scheme few teams want to play against.

The political dimension just adds to the challenges.

LU will get the games. Against teams that are either paid a pantload to play or who dropped the ball scheduling. They might find a local team in there if they're lucky.
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(02-18-2017 05:21 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  I appear to be in the minority as far as ODU fans go. But I hope we don't schedule them. Alot of fans say "hey it's a close game for travel purposes". But if you schedule a Liberty plus an FCS opponent your OOC schedule is trending towards suck.

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Don't think it's anything you need to worry about right now. We don't have any open dates until 2021.
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RE: Poll - Will your school schedule Liberty?
I'm almost positive that we will eventually, however it would only be for home games.
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Seems unlikely. Doesn't really fit our OOC scheduling of like minded institutions, service academies, and large P5 programs.
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Seems like UMass and New Mexico St. ought to be no brainers to schedule regular home and home series. All three schools have to be desperate for opponents while conferences are in the heart of their conference schedules.

I would also think that App. St., ODU, and Charlotte would look to schedule Liberty regularly based on geography.
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