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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
(02-16-2017 07:14 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Its only a loophole if they grant a waiver. They granted a waiver to Liberty because they don't want a religious discrimination lawsuit. That would not be the case with others seeking a waiver.

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The FBS invite rule wouldn't stand up in the case of public institutions either. Nobody wants Youngstown St either, but they have Tressel, Pelini, facilities, fans and a desire.
People are getting all excited. I'd be surprised if we see another.
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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
(02-16-2017 07:23 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:14 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Its only a loophole if they grant a waiver. They granted a waiver to Liberty because they don't want a religious discrimination lawsuit. That would not be the case with others seeking a waiver.

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The FBS invite rule wouldn't stand up in the case of public institutions either. Nobody wants Youngstown St either, but they have Tressel, Pelini, facilities, fans and a desire.
People are getting all excited. I'd be surprised if we see another.

When it happens, the Sun Belt can only blame itself, as they were the ones blocking Liberty.
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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
What ark30inf said. (I hope)
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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
Well, Delaware State, Eastern Kentucky, Alabama State, North Alabama, SFA, Northern Iowa, Illinois State and maybe Indiana State would want to do the same thing. They all mentioned wanted to be FBS as well.

If North Florida adds football? They could be a target for the Sun Belt as well.
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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
(02-16-2017 07:25 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:23 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:14 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Its only a loophole if they grant a waiver. They granted a waiver to Liberty because they don't want a religious discrimination lawsuit. That would not be the case with others seeking a waiver.

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The FBS invite rule wouldn't stand up in the case of public institutions either. Nobody wants Youngstown St either, but they have Tressel, Pelini, facilities, fans and a desire.
People are getting all excited. I'd be surprised if we see another.

When it happens, the Sun Belt can only blame itself, as they were the ones blocking Liberty.

We aren't the land of the misfit toys. We aren't open admission.

Blame us for what? Keeping our conference free from explicit discrimination against Jews, Gays, Muslims, Athiests, Buddhists, Hindus, Agnostics, liberal Protestants, etc.?
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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
(02-16-2017 07:28 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  What ark30inf said. (I hope)

Why are you and ark30 against this? I'm missing something obvious that's potentially bad for your schools right? What is it? At least they aren't going to the SB.
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(02-16-2017 07:28 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  What ark30inf said. (I hope)

I'm assuming you don't want EKU moving up? I understand.

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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
(02-16-2017 07:29 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Well, Delaware State, Eastern Kentucky, Alabama State, North Alabama, SFA, Northern Iowa, Illinois State and maybe Indiana State would want to do the same thing. They all mentioned wanted to be FBS as well.

If North Florida adds football? They could be a target for the Sun Belt as well.

The difference is Liberty can meet FBS standards right now with facilities, attendance, and even FCOA. Most of the schools you listed have major work to do to get up to those levels.
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Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
The Un-Conference:

Idaho
New Mexico State
Cal Poly
UC Davis
UTRGV
UMass
Army
Delaware
Stony Brook
Liberty
James Madison
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RE: Did rules change on FCS moving up without a conference?
(02-16-2017 07:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-16-2017 07:29 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Well, Delaware State, Eastern Kentucky, Alabama State, North Alabama, SFA, Northern Iowa, Illinois State and maybe Indiana State would want to do the same thing. They all mentioned wanted to be FBS as well.

If North Florida adds football? They could be a target for the Sun Belt as well.

The difference is Liberty can meet FBS standards right now with facilities, attendance, and even FCOA. Most of the schools you listed have major work to do to get up to those levels.


Eastern Kentucky, Alabama State, Northern Iowa and Tennessee State all could make the 15,000 limit. SWAC are usually the first in FCS with the best attendance records the past couple of years even though they suck.
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