There is no "new" AAC contract. Dennis Dodd has his head in its usual storage place.

Aresco would never sign a deal 3 years early that cut the conference pay by 90%. Even if he did, the president dents would never sign it. Dodd has no ability to use conman sense, and that's not going away (sorta like how he says talk of a G5 playoff isn't going away).

M pretty sure he was talking to the CUSA deal---which incidentally is only 2 years long. It expires after the 2017-2018 season. Typically, negotiations begin in the final year---so the next FBS data point could come some time this year.

FWI---The AAC had 19 games of over 1 million viewers in 2015---CUSA didn't have one. In fact, CUSA only had one game over half a million viewers that year. So we are talking totally different media values here. Whatever CUSA is paid will be waaaaaay less than the AAC can expect.

(02-16-2017 10:07 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  At worse our contract is going to be valued in the $2.5-$3 million range. That is at a fire sale price too.

CBS pays $200k a year so maybe referring to that? That is a small inventory of bb games.

Objectively, I think you're dead wrong. That would be market rate at this point I think...ESPN isn't going to pay more for a product that isn't worth any more than it was at the time, especially when they don't have the revenue they did when the initial contract was signed.

$200K a year is ludicrous, but those people who think we're get $6M-$7M/year/team are just as deluded.

He was specifically talking about the American Athletic conference and what the next contract with ESPN has been valued at.

I'm not trolling I didn't hear it wrong. Go to their web site and listen to it yourself. It was this morning between about 7-8 CST.

If this value is being thrown around (whether true or not) then I'm glad UCONN is being proactive in a few off-the-record talks with the Big East.

It may explain why they are having those talks and why we haven't heard much about a renegotiation of the contract.

(02-16-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  If this value is being thrown around (whether true or not) then I'm glad UCONN is being proactive in a few off-the-record talks with the Big East.

I think everyone will be looking to leave if what Dodd is saying is true...I think there must be some sort of misunderstanding here.

Cheers!

(02-16-2017 12:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  If this value is being thrown around (whether true or not) then I'm glad UCONN is being proactive in a few off-the-record talks with the Big East.

I think everyone will be looking to leave if what Dodd is saying is true...I think there must be some sort of misunderstanding here.

Cheers!

I don't get why...it's not as if any of the other G5 conferences make any more money than that.

(02-16-2017 11:25 AM)quintas Wrote:  He was specifically talking about the American Athletic conference and what the next contract with ESPN has been valued at.

I'm not trolling I didn't hear it wrong. Go to their web site and listen to it yourself. It was this morning between about 7-8 CST.

Do you have a link to the podcast? I mean I am not sure why the league would drop like that when the membership hasn't changed since the orginal deal was signed. I think he may have miss spoke. The rating and value the league has delivered is at least worth what it is getting now and probably substantially more.

(02-16-2017 12:07 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 12:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  If this value is being thrown around (whether true or not) then I'm glad UCONN is being proactive in a few off-the-record talks with the Big East.

I think everyone will be looking to leave if what Dodd is saying is true...I think there must be some sort of misunderstanding here.

Cheers!

I don't get why...it's not as if any of the other G5 conferences make any more money than that.

I am pretty sure the MAC just signed a new deal last year that pays them 800k a team so yeah they would make 4 times what the American makes based on this fake new deal???? get real this is just another example of poor journalism. Journalism just isn't what it used to be. Facts and truths are no longer needed.

(02-16-2017 12:12 PM)PT_american Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 12:07 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 12:01 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(02-16-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  If this value is being thrown around (whether true or not) then I'm glad UCONN is being proactive in a few off-the-record talks with the Big East.

I think everyone will be looking to leave if what Dodd is saying is true...I think there must be some sort of misunderstanding here.

Cheers!

I don't get why...it's not as if any of the other G5 conferences make any more money than that.

I am pretty sure the MAC just signed a new deal last year that pays them 800k a team so yeah they would make 4 times what the American makes based on this fake new deal???? get real this is just another example of poor journalism. Journalism just isn't what it used to be. Facts and truths are no longer needed.

Alternative Contracts

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It sounded like he was saying ESPN and Fox are cash limited and throwing it all at the P5. Not really a reflection of our value they just aren't going to throw any money this way and neither is their competition.

(02-16-2017 11:25 AM)quintas Wrote:  He was specifically talking about the American Athletic conference and what the next contract with ESPN has been valued at.

I'm not trolling I didn't hear it wrong. Go to their web site and listen to it yourself. It was this morning between about 7-8 CST.

What's the website? Please link since Google isn't pulling them up.

If Fox and ESPN basically collude to offer a low ball like that, I wonder if we'd approach twitter, facebook, youtube, amazon, netflix for something even slightly better. I think twitter/facebook/youtube are the most likely candidates since they've all done the live streaming thing. Twitter with the NFL.

Fox/ABC aren't the only guys around anymore.

(02-16-2017 11:05 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  There is no "new" AAC contract. Dennis Dodd has his head in its usual storage place.

Aresco would never sign a deal 3 years early that cut the conference pay by 90%. Even if he did, the president dents would never sign it. Dodd has no ability to use conman sense, and that's not going away (sorta like how he says talk of a G5 playoff isn't going away).

Since CBS is not getting included with streaming services maybe they only have $200k for each member to spend. They will get the small inventory of basketball games like today. This is so dumb it is mind-boggling. Navy gets more by themselves from CBS just for football without counting the Army Navy game. Navy gets $2 million from cbs without the army navy game.

Either the poster misheard or Dodd is a complete idiot.

(02-16-2017 12:23 PM)quintas Wrote:  It sounded like he was saying ESPN and Fox are cash limited and throwing it all at the P5. Not really a reflection of our value they just aren't going to throw any money this way and neither is their competition.

Like I said, Dennis Dodd lacks common sense. Currently ESPN sells AAC content to CBS-Sports Network. The value of that content ALONE is going to be at least 2 million a year (that's what CBS/BEIN are paying for a similar sized CUSA package with far fewer viewers). The reality? CBS paid 7 million a year for the old CUSA configuration content in 2012. The AAC is a better more attractive league than the 2012 version of CUSA (with Navy, Temple, USF, Cinci replacing Rice, S Miss, UTEP, and UAB).

It has been said over and over that FOX needs east coast content. Well--the AAC offers near P5 ratings at WAY BELOW P5 prices---and over 50% of the league is in the eastern time zone.

Final nugget---Next year ESPN will lose 50% of their Big10 content to FOX. Wh0 do they want to fill those slots with---Sunbelt games? MAC? They didn't even bid on CUSA despite the fact they knew they had lost half the Big10 inventory---so that tells you CUSA isn't on their list to fill those empty broadcast windows. The reality is, unlike 2013, this time ESPN actually needs the AAC inventory of million+ viewer games. Those top AAC games would make for excellent content to plug those holes.

There are plenty of bidders at 2 million a year---including places like Netflix and Amazon. There are likely to be plenty of bidders at 40 million (which was the lower end estimate of value in 2013---before the AAC had out performed ratings expectations). My guess is 60 million+ will be the range this contract comes in. Considering that P5 inventory would cost 4 times as much but only deliver perhaps 50% more viewers, the AAC remains a screaming bargain. The idea there wont be any interest in the AAC defies common sense.

Dodd is most likely, 100% mistaken. Which would not be out of the ordinary for over half the sports writers these days. The fact that the AAC has had such good ratings comparative to many other P5's and all of the G4 will bode well IMO. College athletic admins are a pretty tight knit community, I am sure if there was any inkling that we were going to be making CUSA money in the future we would not be spending $55 million on a upgrade to Dowdy-Ficklen Stadium.

Also, take it for what it's worth but ECU AD Compher was on the radio yesterday saying he just got off the phone with Aresco and the story about UConn/BE was completely false.

Go to the Sirrus Radio web site and see if the College Sports Channel has a link to the First Team show between 7-8 CST this morning.

(02-16-2017 01:12 PM)quintas Wrote:  Go to the Sirrus Radio web site and see if the College Sports Channel has a link to the First Team show between 7-8 CST this morning.

I don't think you can stream Sirrus without a subscription.

Doesn't Navy's TV rights roll into the new AAC contract? Half of the Army/Navy game is worth more than 2 million so.......