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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 10:59 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothstei...expansion/

The downside with the UConn to the Big East scenarios is that I would expect UConn to be contractually bound to the Big East for a long period of time -- way past the Big 12 GOR timeframe -- so they would essentially have to give up their P5 football aspirations.

I can only see the Big East doing this with the expectation that UConn makes a 20 year commitment or will have to pay VERY HEAVILY to leave. The Big East does not want to deal with football problems.
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(02-15-2017 10:51 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  I admire Frank the Tank and his superb blog, so it's an honor to be an original poster where he contributes.

I have heard from a knowledgeable person with extensive contacts with current and former Big 12 members ... In a perfect world for Texas (as described to me by my Big 12 guy), they would want to join the ACC as full members with… wait for it… Notre Dame. ... The new Texas leadership doesn’t have the West Coast preference that their leaders circa 2010 had, so any new deal with the Pac-12 seems to be out. At the same time, the SEC continues to be simply a non-starter for the Longhorns.
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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 11:04 AM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
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Would the AAC keep UConn as an fball-only member if they did in fact join the Big East? Would keep them at an even 12 in fball and 10 OLY. But would Cincinnati ask for the same deal?

If AAC wont keep them as fball-only member, they need to swallow their pride and align with UMass as not just a package deal for fball teams, but turn it into a rivalry (i mean if they did UCF, why not UMass). Both of them then try and get the MAC to let them in or CUSA. Otherwise, independance or CAA for UConn football

I doubt it. Xavier would block any attempts of having UC in the conference. Although, it would be an interesting concept as Fox Sports could promote the heck out of the rivalry as a poor man's Duke/UNC type rivalry to garner the ratings.
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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 10:51 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  But UConn is a great fit for the ACC -- and can help them out with the TV network. UConn would fit into the B10, too, and to a lesser degree with the B12. I remain confident that UConn will get back some of its football strength with the return of Randy Edsall.

This would be the lifeline for UConn. For a conference network, basketball is generally more valuable, unless you are the SEC. UConn not only would be valuable content for an ACC Network, but would help with what I am sure will be a quest to get the ACC Network at a pretty decent tier in and around NYC.

They have many other issues to overcome I believe, but that would be their ticket in, if they ever get one.
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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 11:18 AM)green Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:51 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  I admire Frank the Tank and his superb blog, so it's an honor to be an original poster where he contributes.

I have heard from a knowledgeable person with extensive contacts with current and former Big 12 members ... In a perfect world for Texas (as described to me by my Big 12 guy), they would want to join the ACC as full members with… wait for it… Notre Dame. ... The new Texas leadership doesn’t have the West Coast preference that their leaders circa 2010 had, so any new deal with the Pac-12 seems to be out. At the same time, the SEC continues to be simply a non-starter for the Longhorns.
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Texas may want ND to join with them as full members, but I doubt that the latter is likely to happen.
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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 09:05 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 09:00 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 08:13 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 08:05 AM)3BNole Wrote:  The major problem for UCONN with the ACC is that their football program would dilute the football product and ACC basketball is already saturated, both men's and women's. At this point in time, there really isn't new that they would bring. If they ever do come in, it would be paired with ND as a full fledged member.

I have nothing but respect for Florida State and their outstanding athletic programs and strong academics. But give UConn football a chance under Head Coach Randy Edsall again. UConn may not be able to beat Florida State or Clemson next fall, but chances are strong the football program will soon be competitive with most of the ACC.

Evidence of this bolded part?

I have faith especially after Notre Dame's former flunky Bob Diaco has left UConn.



I knew he would be a disaster for UConn the day he was hired. But, UConn fans were drinking the Kool Aid at the time and didn't want to hear it.

Interesting choice of words. Defensive Coordinator = "Notre Dame's former flunky".

Nobody from ND put a gun to UConn's head and made them hire that crazy dude as head football coach.

UConn solely owns that one.
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(02-15-2017 11:55 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 11:18 AM)green Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:51 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  I admire Frank the Tank and his superb blog, so it's an honor to be an original poster where he contributes.

I have heard from a knowledgeable person with extensive contacts with current and former Big 12 members ... In a perfect world for Texas (as described to me by my Big 12 guy), they would want to join the ACC as full members with… wait for it… Notre Dame. ... The new Texas leadership doesn’t have the West Coast preference that their leaders circa 2010 had, so any new deal with the Pac-12 seems to be out. At the same time, the SEC continues to be simply a non-starter for the Longhorns.
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Texas may want ND to join with them as full members, but I doubt that the latter is likely to happen.

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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 10:42 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:23 AM)p23570 Wrote:  Why would they. UConn has nowhere to go and ESPN controls all the content for pennies on the dollar. All it would do is cost ESPN money.

The psychology of a UConn fan is an interesting one. What I see is a school who made poor decisions and is now dealing with the consequences of choosing to play FCS until 1990 and building a football stadium a half an hour from campus. Those are UConn's choices. Those choices combined with limited fan support for Football has turned out to be a huge liability in realignment for UConn. But UConn can't blame ESPN or anyone else for those choices. Better to take responsibility than to constantly play the victim or expect a corporation to throw you a 25 million dollar a year lifeline when they have no reason to.

That being said I'd love to see BYU and UConn added to the Big 12.

I don't agree with you much, but I'll concur that the fact that UConn didn't have FBS football until this century is a VERY underrated aspect in analyzing the school's realignment prospects. I've been saying that for years. Unfortunately for UConn, there's nothing that can solve that particular problem except for time.

Now, it's a bit harsh to say that UConn made poor decisions. To the contrary, I think UConn actually recognized that FBS football was going to be even more important compared to basketball sooner than many other schools, which is why they decided to upgrade. They did as much as a school could realistically do on a unilateral basis to improve its standing over the past 20 years. The problem that UConn encountered is that they might have naively assumed that their "old money" status in basketball would carry over to their football program, whereas the P5 leagues still ended up looking at UConn as a "noveau riche" football program that has less top level history than schools like UCF and Boise State... and P5 leagues have shown again and again that they only want "old money" (even if that old money is terrible on-the-field like Rutgers). Once again, only time can solve that issue for UConn (and they might not have that time with the P5/G5 gap widening further every year).

There is really nothing to disagree or agree with. UConn played FCS until 1990. That was their choice.
UConn built a stadium in another town. That was their choice. You can agree or disagree but that won't change the fact that those decisions were made by Uconn, not the p-5 and not ESPN.

ESPN has no financial reason to write UConn a 25m check every year when they get the content for a few million. That seem to be what the OP is suggesting.

Neither of those poor decisions helped them in realignment IMO. The fanbase has not helped them either as they have limited support for FB even when good and downright terrible support when they are bad.

I just get tired of reading how UConn is the victim in all this form the p-5 cartel to evil ESPN doing them wrong. They made decisions that caused them to be where they are. They seem to think there is a conspiracy against them when in reality they need a mirror to see who to blame.
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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 05:06 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I agree with many of your points, but you are acting as if ESPN can make UConn a P5.

They broke up the Big East. They could probably get UConn into the P5 if they wanted to.
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RE: ESPN Makes Lot of Money Off of UConn Women's Basketball So Why Not Back UConn Into P5
(02-15-2017 11:30 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:51 AM)connecticutguy Wrote:  But UConn is a great fit for the ACC -- and can help them out with the TV network. UConn would fit into the B10, too, and to a lesser degree with the B12. I remain confident that UConn will get back some of its football strength with the return of Randy Edsall.

This would be the lifeline for UConn. For a conference network, basketball is generally more valuable, unless you are the SEC. UConn not only would be valuable content for an ACC Network, but would help with what I am sure will be a quest to get the ACC Network at a pretty decent tier in and around NYC.

They have many other issues to overcome I believe, but that would be their ticket in, if they ever get one.

Relatively speaking, considering that college hoops is such a small % of AD revenue, the SEC does pretty well. The PAC is the only conference last time I checked that was significantly ahead of us and they were ahead of everyone. We are usually neck and neck with the ACC in hoops revenue from television. Go figure!
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