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(02-17-2017 06:43 AM)Tribe32 Wrote:  You've got a short memory. Prewitt had lots of those games his first two years.

(02-16-2017 10:55 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This is what I'm concerned about. Greg and Paul are expected to step into Omar's shoes. Omar never had a game like Greg and Paul had tonight.
No, actually, he didn't. In 2013-2014, Omar averaged over 11 pts and 4 rebs a game, had 20 games with double digits, and had a grand total of 1 game where he didn't score. Freshman season.

Sophomore season was very similar with an increase in average ppg.



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we average 93.3 ppg at home. we average 71.3 ppg in away games.
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(02-17-2017 08:24 AM)WM Beancounter Wrote:  So jmu has 7 players, and just about all of them are in serious foul trouble by early 2nd. We normally play 10 guys, but yet with we inexplicably choose to shorten our rotation to 6 guys for the last 25 minutes. We basically eliminated our significant advantage on our own.  We cut the lead to 2 with about 8 minutes to play, and you'd think we would then shuttle guys in and out nonstop and run the hell out of them.  You'd be wrong.

Someone here who knows the game better than me... please explain last night's strategy.  From where I sit, coaching LOST us a very winnable game.

I'm also wondering about this. Why didn't Paul play? I think Greg was benched as discipline but we could have used his depth down the line. Are guys still sick? Or hurt? It was a weird decision.
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In a much better state now than last night at 920PM, but Jay Colley said we are going to be in the top 6 for the tournament on the broadcast last night. If we don't win Saturday, there is a reasonable chance we could finish 7th. A win last night would have assured us of a top 6 seed, but now we need to get to 10 wins to assure it. Towson is on fire right now, plus we have the Senior Day curse. Hofstra could be a tough game as well. Finally, with last night's action, Towson is almost assured of the 3 seed, so I don't think we want to finish 6th. We need to be #4 or #5. We could beat Towson, but beating them twice in a row, and getting beat up by them will drastically affect a Sunday or Monday game in the tournament. Also, I heard today that Frank Mason(of the Kansas Jayhawks) was supposed to go to Towson. Can you imagine the Tigers this year, if they had him?
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Yep, Pat had him all but reeled in until he blew up in AAU ball that summer.
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Okay, maybe you didn't define what you meant about games like Paul and Greg had. Omar had many games where he had five points or less in those years, and at least Greg had a deuce. My point is much less about Omar and more about the potential of the other two.

(02-17-2017 10:29 AM)Tribal Wrote:  
(02-17-2017 06:43 AM)Tribe32 Wrote:  You've got a short memory. Prewitt had lots of those games his first two years.

(02-16-2017 10:55 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This is what I'm concerned about. Greg and Paul are expected to step into Omar's shoes. Omar never had a game like Greg and Paul had tonight.
No, actually, he didn't. In 2013-2014, Omar averaged over 11 pts and 4 rebs a game, had 20 games with double digits, and had a grand total of 1 game where he didn't score. Freshman season.

Sophomore season was very similar with an increase in average ppg.



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(02-17-2017 03:54 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  
(02-17-2017 08:24 AM)WM Beancounter Wrote:  So jmu has 7 players, and just about all of them are in serious foul trouble by early 2nd. We normally play 10 guys, but yet with we inexplicably choose to shorten our rotation to 6 guys for the last 25 minutes. We basically eliminated our significant advantage on our own.  We cut the lead to 2 with about 8 minutes to play, and you'd think we would then shuttle guys in and out nonstop and run the hell out of them.  You'd be wrong.

Someone here who knows the game better than me... please explain last night's strategy.  From where I sit, coaching LOST us a very winnable game.

I'm also wondering about this. Why didn't Paul play? I think Greg was benched as discipline but we could have used his depth down the line. Are guys still sick? Or hurt? It was a weird decision.

The reserves looked pretty terrible Thursday. Rowley wasn't finding space on offense to shoot (and as we know is a liability on defense), Tot wasn't defending well, & Pierce is just victim to being behind Prewitt (who we needed out there with how bad Dixon was playing).
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(02-17-2017 07:16 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  Okay, maybe you didn't define what you meant about games like Paul and Greg had. Omar had many games where he had five points or less in those years, and at least Greg had a deuce. My point is much less about Omar and more about the potential of the other two.

(02-17-2017 10:29 AM)Tribal Wrote:  
(02-17-2017 06:43 AM)Tribe32 Wrote:  You've got a short memory. Prewitt had lots of those games his first two years.

(02-16-2017 10:55 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This is what I'm concerned about. Greg and Paul are expected to step into Omar's shoes. Omar never had a game like Greg and Paul had tonight.
No, actually, he didn't. In 2013-2014, Omar averaged over 11 pts and 4 rebs a game, had 20 games with double digits, and had a grand total of 1 game where he didn't score. Freshman season.

Sophomore season was very similar with an increase in average ppg.



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The difference is that even on off days, teams couldn't sleep on Omar because of the various ways he could score. Malinowski is mainly just a 3 point shooter and when his 3s aren't falling will more times than not fail to score more than a few points. It is concerning that Malinowski has seemed to regress from last season. Based on the inconsistency I have seen from him, we can't count on him being anything more than a 3rd or 4th scorer next season.

Also, Prewitt continued to improved from his freshman year to his junior year with his points & FG percentage, which is impressive because defenses weren't keying in on Marcus anymore.
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Greg hasn't regressed, his skill set just isn't featured in our offense. Malinowski has never been a dribble drive kind of scorer like Omar & Daniel. That's the thing we'll miss the most next year. Pierce has that in his game, but still at the freshman level. If he continues to improve, he'll be a really big piece of the offense. We are definitely going to have to take advantage of Nathan & Jack next year. We have to work inside out in order to get guys like Connor and Paul shots on the perimeter.
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(02-18-2017 02:29 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  Greg hasn't regressed, his skill set just isn't featured in our offense. Malinowski has never been a dribble drive kind of scorer like Omar & Daniel. That's the thing we'll miss the most next year. Pierce has that in his game, but still at the freshman level. If he continues to improve, he'll be a really big piece of the offense. We are definitely going to have to take advantage of Nathan & Jack next year. We have to work inside out in order to get guys like Connor and Paul shots on the perimeter.

Maybe stagnated is a better word then, although his shooting %age is down and turnovers have doubled from last season.
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(02-18-2017 04:37 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  
(02-18-2017 02:29 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  Greg hasn't regressed, his skill set just isn't featured in our offense. Malinowski has never been a dribble drive kind of scorer like Omar & Daniel. That's the thing we'll miss the most next year. Pierce has that in his game, but still at the freshman level. If he continues to improve, he'll be a really big piece of the offense. We are definitely going to have to take advantage of Nathan & Jack next year. We have to work inside out in order to get guys like Connor and Paul shots on the perimeter.

Maybe stagnated is a better word then, although his shooting %age is down and turnovers have doubled from last season.

I don't know for sure if it had any effect on his performance, but I think the Concussion had and is still affecting him. I noticed that he tends to preform poorly against physical teams and shines on ones that play a more passive defense. He was out for 4 months, and Jack was out for 1 week with his concussion.
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