(02-14-2017 08:57 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:40 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I'd take Chad playing on roller skates over PHN.

Perfect example of your lack of basketball knowledge if you are referring strictly to on the court. Niles would destroy him.

maybe but stats say otherwise

Travis Frederick

(02-14-2017 09:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Travis Frederick

What?

(02-14-2017 08:40 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I'd take Chad playing on roller skates over PHN.

Pierre would have Chad in traction before the half.

(02-14-2017 08:40 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I'd take Chad playing on roller skates over PHN.

That's a slap in the face to PHN.

Sorry . . . couldn't resist.

(02-14-2017 08:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:48 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  Dennis Isbell

He could jump out of the gym! Other than that I can't remember much about him, too young.

Yep. Drafted by the Bullets, I think, when the draft was like 10 rounds. Great guy, super athletic and great shot blocker for a guy 6-8. High jump record holder as well. Had the record here with like 61 until Keith Lee.

Isbell was pretty high up there. John Kilzer's sidekick.

(02-14-2017 10:13 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:48 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  Dennis Isbell

He could jump out of the gym! Other than that I can't remember much about him, too young.

Yep. Drafted by the Bullets, I think, when the draft was like 10 rounds. Great guy, super athletic and great shot blocker for a guy 6-8. High jump record holder as well. Had the record here with like 61 until Keith Lee.

Isbell was pretty high up there. John Kilzer's sidekick.

Isbell could jump higher than any white boy I've ever seen. Went to school with Dennis and Hank. Pretty sure he didn't play with those two

(02-14-2017 10:24 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:13 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:48 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:27 PM)450bench Wrote:  Dennis Isbell

He could jump out of the gym! Other than that I can't remember much about him, too young.

Yep. Drafted by the Bullets, I think, when the draft was like 10 rounds. Great guy, super athletic and great shot blocker for a guy 6-8. High jump record holder as well. Had the record here with like 61 until Keith Lee.

Isbell was pretty high up there. John Kilzer's sidekick.

Isbell could jump higher than any white boy ive ever seen. Went to school with Dennis and Hank.

The Pride of Blytheville.

Derrick Chew would be a tremendous help for this team. He was offensive minded, not afraid to get in there and mix it up.

(02-14-2017 08:40 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I'd take Chad playing on roller skates over PHN.

Wait a minute....PHN killed it in every Memphis madness we had...totally dominated....until the actual games started

(02-14-2017 10:29 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:24 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 10:13 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:01 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 07:48 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  He could jump out of the gym! Other than that I can't remember much about him, too young.

Yep. Drafted by the Bullets, I think, when the draft was like 10 rounds. Great guy, super athletic and great shot blocker for a guy 6-8. High jump record holder as well. Had the record here with like 61 until Keith Lee.

Isbell was pretty high up there. John Kilzer's sidekick.

Isbell could jump higher than any white boy ive ever seen. Went to school with Dennis and Hank.

The Pride of Blytheville.

The late, great Dana Kirk used to say that Dennis was the best athlete he ever coached. Smartest guy ever? Um, no, but the best athlete and he said it wasn't even close. The pride of Blytheville, as someone here stated earlier.
I think it's safe to say that Dennis and Kilzer probably played in a bit of a "fog" if you know what I mean. But Isbell was a helluva player, no doubt.

(02-14-2017 10:10 PM)HobosHeroesStCornerClowns Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 08:40 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  I'd take Chad playing on roller skates over PHN.

That's a slap in the face to PHN.

Sorry . . . couldn't resist.

Original and Unique

No Modibo Diarra love on this thread? pssh. haters.

(02-14-2017 05:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Rivers or Chad

Or Nick Marshall
Calvin Godfrey
David Pellom
Freshmen Shaq
Senior Spoon
Will Coleman
Henderson Niles

I cant say I would choose Chad or Rivers over any of those backups over the past 7 years.

So yeah we have a talent issue...We will see if Tubby can fix...but he has done well with essentially players who could have been 3rd string on marginal teams.

It depends on what you need.

From the high post--Chad is better than any of those guys. He's a decent passer and has good height. Plus, he's not bad rolling to the rim.

Since Memphis has Dedric and KJ, Memphis doesn't need to have its center planted on the low block like many of the guys above need to do.

Most of those guy (unlike Chad) can't pass out of the low block, either.

So, again, it depends on what you need out of the role player at that position.

(02-15-2017 09:46 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 05:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Rivers or Chad

Or Nick Marshall
Calvin Godfrey
David Pellom
Freshmen Shaq
Senior Spoon
Will Coleman
Henderson Niles

I cant say I would choose Chad or Rivers over any of those backups over the past 7 years.

So yeah we have a talent issue...We will see if Tubby can fix...but he has done well with essentially players who could have been 3rd string on marginal teams.

It depends on what you need.

From the high post--Chad is better than any of those guys. He's a decent passer and has good height. Plus, he's not bad rolling to the rim.

Since Memphis has Dedric and KJ, Memphis doesn't need to have its center planted on the low block like many of the guys above need to do.

Most of those guy (unlike Chad) can't pass out of the low block, either.

So, again, it depends on what you need out of the role player at that position.

Agreed.

(02-15-2017 09:46 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 05:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Rivers or Chad

Or Nick Marshall
Calvin Godfrey
David Pellom
Freshmen Shaq
Senior Spoon
Will Coleman
Henderson Niles

I cant say I would choose Chad or Rivers over any of those backups over the past 7 years.

So yeah we have a talent issue...We will see if Tubby can fix...but he has done well with essentially players who could have been 3rd string on marginal teams.

It depends on what you need.

From the high post--Chad is better than any of those guys. He's a decent passer and has good height. Plus, he's not bad rolling to the rim.

Since Memphis has Dedric and KJ, Memphis doesn't need to have its center planted on the low block like many of the guys above need to do.

Most of those guy (unlike Chad) can't pass out of the low block, either.

So, again, it depends on what you need out of the role player at that position.

What about rebounding and Defense?

You only spoke to offense...

(02-15-2017 12:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 09:46 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 05:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Rivers or Chad

Or Nick Marshall
Calvin Godfrey
David Pellom
Freshmen Shaq
Senior Spoon
Will Coleman
Henderson Niles

I cant say I would choose Chad or Rivers over any of those backups over the past 7 years.

So yeah we have a talent issue...We will see if Tubby can fix...but he has done well with essentially players who could have been 3rd string on marginal teams.

It depends on what you need.

From the high post--Chad is better than any of those guys. He's a decent passer and has good height. Plus, he's not bad rolling to the rim.

Since Memphis has Dedric and KJ, Memphis doesn't need to have its center planted on the low block like many of the guys above need to do.

Most of those guy (unlike Chad) can't pass out of the low block, either.

So, again, it depends on what you need out of the role player at that position.

What about rebounding and Defense?

You only spoke to offense...

Well, none of those listed above are going to vie as "first team all defense."

In terms of "per 40" Godfrey was the best rebounder and biggest body.

Most others (including Chad) averaged about 8-9 rpg per 40 minutes.

Basically, what I'm getting at is you could probably blind draw any of them and get about the same.

(02-15-2017 12:47 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 12:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(02-15-2017 09:46 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-14-2017 05:29 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Rivers or Chad

Or Nick Marshall
Calvin Godfrey
David Pellom
Freshmen Shaq
Senior Spoon
Will Coleman
Henderson Niles

I cant say I would choose Chad or Rivers over any of those backups over the past 7 years.

So yeah we have a talent issue...We will see if Tubby can fix...but he has done well with essentially players who could have been 3rd string on marginal teams.

It depends on what you need.

From the high post--Chad is better than any of those guys. He's a decent passer and has good height. Plus, he's not bad rolling to the rim.

Since Memphis has Dedric and KJ, Memphis doesn't need to have its center planted on the low block like many of the guys above need to do.

Most of those guy (unlike Chad) can't pass out of the low block, either.

So, again, it depends on what you need out of the role player at that position.

What about rebounding and Defense?

You only spoke to offense...

Well, none of those listed above are going to vie as "first team all defense."

In terms of "per 40" Godfrey was the best rebounder and biggest body.

Most others (including Chad) averaged about 8-9 rpg per 40 minutes.

Basically, what I'm getting at is you could probably blind draw any of them and get about the same.

Pierre averaged 5+ rebounds in under 20 minutes if i remember correctly and he wasnt going to get backed down

Even with how thin we are in the frontcourt, I would rather have a scoring point guard on this team. This team needs an Elliot Williams type player.

(02-15-2017 03:01 PM)MtownTigers916 Wrote:  Even with how thin we are in the frontcourt, I would rather have a scoring point guard on this team. This team needs an Elliot Williams type player.

Most teams could.