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(02-14-2017 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
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(02-14-2017 03:46 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  As most of us know, Northwestern is the only P5 team to never "dance", and barring them soiling themselves, they're going this year. So I wondered which women's P5 teams are yet to make their tournament? Given the sport's lack of relative depth, and the tournament being 40 years newer, I suspect it's a much longer list.

The non P6 get even fewer at large bids in women's than men's. If a P6 doesn't bid, they plainly don't care about wbb.

P-6????

What is the #6 women's basketball league that is considered "power"?

UCONN was formerly Big East. That alone elevates wbb there. Maybe should have used the P7, since UCONN is now an AAC school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Wom...by_schools

At the end of the Wiki link shows no P5,6,7 schools without a women's bid.

Wake Forest is the only one with just one bid and that was in 1988.
So because Uconn used to be in the BE that makes the NBE womens BB a "power" league?

That's some interesting logic.
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RE: P5 teams to NOT make WNCAA tournament
(02-14-2017 05:14 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 04:27 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 04:25 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  As most of us know, Northwestern is the only P5 team to never "dance", and barring them soiling themselves, they're going this year. So I wondered which women's P5 teams are yet to make their tournament? Given the sport's lack of relative depth, and the tournament being 40 years newer, I suspect it's a much longer list.

The non P6 get even fewer at large bids in women's than men's. If a P6 doesn't bid, they plainly don't care about wbb.

P-6????

What is the #6 women's basketball league that is considered "power"?

UCONN was formerly Big East. That alone elevates wbb there. Maybe should have used the P7, since UCONN is now an AAC school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Wom...by_schools

At the end of the Wiki link shows no P5,6,7 schools without a women's bid.

Wake Forest is the only one with just one bid and that was in 1988.
So because Uconn used to be in the BE that makes the NBE womens BB a "power" league?

That's some interesting logic.
It certainly was the power league when UCONN was a part of it. Now the same argument can be used for the American. Only speaking for women's bb of course.

No traditional P5 league comes close to tackling UConn's dominance.

Could make the argument that the American is the Power One in wbb, but you'd only explose.
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I just feel outside of a few programs (UConn, ND, SC, etc.) there just aren't many schools that invest a large amount of resources into wbb. This creates a lot of parity as the barrier of entry to compete isn't astronomical like it is in football or men's basketball. Some mid-major schools that have trouble competing in other sports rally behind their women's team as it's the one sport they are actually "good" at.
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RE: P5 teams to NOT make WNCAA tournament
(02-14-2017 05:23 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 05:14 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 04:39 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 04:27 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 04:25 PM)NoDak Wrote:  The non P6 get even fewer at large bids in women's than men's. If a P6 doesn't bid, they plainly don't care about wbb.

P-6????

What is the #6 women's basketball league that is considered "power"?

UCONN was formerly Big East. That alone elevates wbb there. Maybe should have used the P7, since UCONN is now an AAC school.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Wom...by_schools

At the end of the Wiki link shows no P5,6,7 schools without a women's bid.

Wake Forest is the only one with just one bid and that was in 1988.
So because Uconn used to be in the BE that makes the NBE womens BB a "power" league?

That's some interesting logic.
It certainly was the power league when UCONN was a part of it. Now the same argument can be used for the American. Only speaking for women's bb of course.

No traditional P5 league comes close to tackling UConn's dominance.

Could make the argument that the American is the Power One in wbb, but you'd only explose.
Exolose? LOL. Hardly. I like me some WBB. But the vast majority of the games I attend are d-2 so that's sub g-5 level.

I'm not sure that becasue a school used to be in a league that counts anymore but you are free to your own interpretation.

If you want to consider the AAC to be the power league and a p-6 or p-7 feel free. Same with the NBE. Just understand that not everyone is going to agree that there is a p-6 or p-7 as you put it.
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(02-14-2017 05:26 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I just feel outside of a few programs (UConn, ND, SC, etc.) there just aren't many schools that invest a large amount of resources into wbb. This creates a lot of parity as the barrier of entry to compete isn't astronomical like it is in football or men's basketball. Some mid-major schools that have trouble competing in other sports rally behind their women's team as it's the one sport they are actually "good" at.

So true.

OU spends the money but it's nothing but a drain for the AD and quite frankly even more of a drain becasue fans don't embrace WBB. Haven't even won a CC in a decade yet Sheri is paid near the top in the sport. Attendance is crap with 3k fans at games.

There are some really amazing fan bases in WBB.
ISU draws 6-10k people for games and they aren't very good. South Carolina has a great following.
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(02-14-2017 06:16 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 05:26 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I just feel outside of a few programs (UConn, ND, SC, etc.) there just aren't many schools that invest a large amount of resources into wbb. This creates a lot of parity as the barrier of entry to compete isn't astronomical like it is in football or men's basketball. Some mid-major schools that have trouble competing in other sports rally behind their women's team as it's the one sport they are actually "good" at.

So true.

OU spends the money but it's nothing but a drain for the AD and quite frankly even more of a drain becasue fans don't embrace WBB. Haven't even won a CC in a decade yet Sheri is paid near the top in the sport. Attendance is crap with 3k fans at games.

There are some really amazing fan bases in WBB.
ISU draws 6-10k people for games and they aren't very good. South Carolina has a great following.

HS Girls Basketball (at least it used to be) a huge sport in Iowa, with games televised back as far as the early 70's (where I lived in Illinois we got TV stations from the Quad Cities).

Of course back then they played 6 on 6, with 3 girls per team on offense, another 3 on defense, and they couldn't cross half-court...

Edit - looks like Iowa did away with 6 on 6 in 1993, Oklahoma was the last to end, in 1995
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(02-14-2017 07:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 06:16 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 05:26 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I just feel outside of a few programs (UConn, ND, SC, etc.) there just aren't many schools that invest a large amount of resources into wbb. This creates a lot of parity as the barrier of entry to compete isn't astronomical like it is in football or men's basketball. Some mid-major schools that have trouble competing in other sports rally behind their women's team as it's the one sport they are actually "good" at.

So true.

OU spends the money but it's nothing but a drain for the AD and quite frankly even more of a drain becasue fans don't embrace WBB. Haven't even won a CC in a decade yet Sheri is paid near the top in the sport. Attendance is crap with 3k fans at games.

There are some really amazing fan bases in WBB.
ISU draws 6-10k people for games and they aren't very good. South Carolina has a great following.

HS Girls Basketball (at least it used to be) a huge sport in Iowa, with games televised back as far as the early 70's (where I lived in Illinois we got TV stations from the Quad Cities).

Of course back then they played 6 on 6, with 3 girls per team on offense, another 3 on defense, and they couldn't cross half-court...

Edit - looks like Iowa did away with 6 on 6 in 1993, Oklahoma was the last to end, in 1995

HS girls basketball was HUGE in Iowa when I was a kid. My school in Durant Iowa made the state finals in basketball when I was a kid in the late 80's. It was incredible watching our little town team (240 Kids in the High School) beat all the big city schools in Des Moines, Davenport etc.
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(02-14-2017 05:26 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I just feel outside of a few programs (UConn, ND, SC, etc.) there just aren't many schools that invest a large amount of resources into wbb. This creates a lot of parity as the barrier of entry to compete isn't astronomical like it is in football or men's basketball. Some mid-major schools that have trouble competing in other sports rally behind their women's team as it's the one sport they are actually "good" at.

That used to be the case, you used to see a La. Tech or an Old Dominion be relevant but that's not really the case these days. UConn is only in a lesser conference because it's conference fell apart/moved on due to football and politics.
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(02-14-2017 03:46 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  As most of us know, Northwestern is the only P5 team to never "dance", and barring them soiling themselves, they're going this year. So I wondered which women's P5 teams are yet to make their tournament? Given the sport's lack of relative depth, and the tournament being 40 years newer, I suspect it's a much longer list.
Men's BB, Women's BB, Hockey, baseball etc.;.Don't get you into a P-5 conference. All the big money is about Football, Football and more Football. Beat Alabama, Clemson, OU and Texas A&M a few times in football and maybe you might get an invite.
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(02-15-2017 09:42 AM)MrCincy Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:46 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  As most of us know, Northwestern is the only P5 team to never "dance", and barring them soiling themselves, they're going this year. So I wondered which women's P5 teams are yet to make their tournament? Given the sport's lack of relative depth, and the tournament being 40 years newer, I suspect it's a much longer list.
Men's BB, Women's BB, Hockey, baseball etc.;.Don't get you into a P-5 conference. All the big money is about Football, Football and more Football. Beat Alabama, Clemson, OU and Texas A&M a few times in football and maybe you might get an invite.

I'm unclear what your answer has to do with the question posed by the thread!
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