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RE: UAB - 3,2,1
(02-14-2017 11:47 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  Is Green supposed to be a good 3 pt shooter? I always tend to forget about the guys who are RS'ing during the season.

Green can fill it up from the three point line, at least in warmups. He and Caver are two of the first on the floor before every home game ( like Trey used to do). Green has a smooth stroke with 3 point range. Caver as well has a smooth jumper, not 3 point range but very nice from 15 feet.
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Thanks for the analysis above. I am glad you guys mentioned BJ's rebounding. I thought he played like a beast on the boards, especially early in the games opening minutes when we were trying to establish some dominance. Of all the players on the team, it seems to me that BJ seems to come out with the most energy on the most consistent basis. His shot is not always on early but he just seems to be ready to play.
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RE: UAB - 3,2,1
(02-14-2017 02:58 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 11:47 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  Is Green supposed to be a good 3 pt shooter? I always tend to forget about the guys who are RS'ing during the season.

Green can fill it up from the three point line, at least in warmups. He and Caver are two of the first on the floor before every home game ( like Trey used to do). Green has a smooth stroke with 3 point range. Caver as well has a smooth jumper, not 3 point range but very nice from 15 feet.

Do you mean Carver?
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(02-14-2017 10:53 AM)mac Wrote:  Coach and 78, a question for next year. With both these guards coming on, and Green becoming available, do you think we redshirt Goodwin next year? Heiutt seems too good to hold back.

I'm not sure I can answer this. Hueitt obviously has a specific skillset that we can absolutely use, but Godwin's body might be more ready to play college ball. But, as you point out, there aren't that many minutes available. Our best hope is that Green can become a serviceable backup PG. That would be a great way for him to get minutes.

The way I see it is like this:

PG: Caver, Green, Fields
2/3: BJ, Talley, Haynes, Hueitt, Godwin
3/4: Talley and the bigs

Honestly, if I had to guess, neither of them redshirt. I'm not sure either of the new kids will average more than 10 minutes per game, but I think Jeff just might want all of his weapons available.
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RE: UAB - 3,2,1
I like the all the weapons available angle! Next year with Stith as a senior, BJ and Porters juniors, could be the year to use your weapons.
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RE: UAB - 3,2,1
Porter's length and soft hands would make him a natural for the high-post position. Assuming that he could deveop his shot to 15', he would kill the zones that confound us by being a passing conduit and hitting those elbow J's that made Gerald Lee so dangerous.
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(02-14-2017 03:04 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 02:58 PM)JJMonarch Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 11:47 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  Is Green supposed to be a good 3 pt shooter? I always tend to forget about the guys who are RS'ing during the season.

Green can fill it up from the three point line, at least in warmups. He and Caver are two of the first on the floor before every home game ( like Trey used to do). Green has a smooth stroke with 3 point range. Caver as well has a smooth jumper, not 3 point range but very nice from 15 feet.

Do you mean Carver?

Yes, I meant Carver. I need a program. Lol. Thanks.
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(02-14-2017 02:25 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 01:55 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  Coach, in your prediction, you included Porter as one of the players who is improving. I agree, but I really am not enough of a round ball guy to expound on that very eloquently. Could you take a few minutes the talk to what you saw against UAB and in any previous games that leads you to this conclusion? As a general comment, he appears to me to emerging as a real force for this team and will be vital down the the home stretch and into the conference tournament.

Trey has been in double figures in 4 of our last 5 games, and in the last 9 games, he has only shot under 50% once (a 1-3 effort in 9 minutes @Rice). You want your bigs to be able to convert at a +50% fg%.

Now, specifically against UAB, the first time he touched the ball, he traveled when he was posting up, got doubled, but the primary defender backed off just a bit and caused Trey to shuffle his feet. On the very next possession, he posted up in the zone, waited a second to see how the defense was going to react, no double came, so he made a nice move over his left shoulder for an easy lay in.

In the 2nd half, he came into the game and on the first offensive possession, he caught the ball in the post, the double came from Carver's man, Trey kicked it back out for Carver's open jumper. Two possessions later, he caught the ball in the high post, turned over his right shoulder, and pulled up for a 12-foot jump shot (Jones thought he was fouled on this one and got the T). Later, he showed off his improved range with an 18-foot jump shot, had another post-up move, and my favorite of the game, his offensive rebound that he powered up through traffic to finish.

He has clearly been working on his post moves, and he's clearly trying to get stronger, but what has most impressed me is his knowledge and understanding of where to get the best position, and then when he catches it, reading the defense and making decisions based on what the defense is giving him.

Thanks, Coach. I think they are getting it together at just the right time, and it's nice to see Porter stepping up his game.
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(02-14-2017 03:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:53 AM)mac Wrote:  Coach and 78, a question for next year. With both these guards coming on, and Green becoming available, do you think we redshirt Goodwin next year? Heiutt seems too good to hold back.

I'm not sure I can answer this. Hueitt obviously has a specific skillset that we can absolutely use, but Godwin's body might be more ready to play college ball. But, as you point out, there aren't that many minutes available. Our best hope is that Green can become a serviceable backup PG. That would be a great way for him to get minutes.

The way I see it is like this:

PG: Caver, Green, Fields
2/3: BJ, Talley, Haynes, Hueitt, Godwin
3/4: Talley and the bigs

Honestly, if I had to guess, neither of them redshirt. I'm not sure either of the new kids will average more than 10 minutes per game, but I think Jeff just might want all of his weapons available.

I agree neither will red shirt....We have tried Green at the point and it isn't working out. I think JJ plans on trying to use one of the new recruits at the point. Have to wait and see if it works. If it does it is a way to get more playing time.
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RE: UAB - 3,2,1
(02-15-2017 07:35 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:53 AM)mac Wrote:  Coach and 78, a question for next year. With both these guards coming on, and Green becoming available, do you think we redshirt Goodwin next year? Heiutt seems too good to hold back.

I'm not sure I can answer this. Hueitt obviously has a specific skillset that we can absolutely use, but Godwin's body might be more ready to play college ball. But, as you point out, there aren't that many minutes available. Our best hope is that Green can become a serviceable backup PG. That would be a great way for him to get minutes.

The way I see it is like this:

PG: Caver, Green, Fields
2/3: BJ, Talley, Haynes, Hueitt, Godwin
3/4: Talley and the bigs

Honestly, if I had to guess, neither of them redshirt. I'm not sure either of the new kids will average more than 10 minutes per game, but I think Jeff just might want all of his weapons available.

I agree neither will red shirt....We have tried Green at the point and it isn't working out. I think JJ plans on trying to use one of the new recruits at the point. Have to wait and see if it works. If it does it is a way to get more playing time.


What is this based on?
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RE: UAB - 3,2,1
(02-15-2017 07:35 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:53 AM)mac Wrote:  Coach and 78, a question for next year. With both these guards coming on, and Green becoming available, do you think we redshirt Goodwin next year? Heiutt seems too good to hold back.

I'm not sure I can answer this. Hueitt obviously has a specific skillset that we can absolutely use, but Godwin's body might be more ready to play college ball. But, as you point out, there aren't that many minutes available. Our best hope is that Green can become a serviceable backup PG. That would be a great way for him to get minutes.

The way I see it is like this:

PG: Caver, Green, Fields
2/3: BJ, Talley, Haynes, Hueitt, Godwin
3/4: Talley and the bigs

Honestly, if I had to guess, neither of them redshirt. I'm not sure either of the new kids will average more than 10 minutes per game, but I think Jeff just might want all of his weapons available.

I agree neither will red shirt....We have tried Green at the point and it isn't working out. I think JJ plans on trying to use one of the new recruits at the point. Have to wait and see if it works. If it does it is a way to get more playing time.

How does Green look in practice? I was very excited about him after watching him play in high school.
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(02-15-2017 10:01 PM)757ODU Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 07:35 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:53 AM)mac Wrote:  Coach and 78, a question for next year. With both these guards coming on, and Green becoming available, do you think we redshirt Goodwin next year? Heiutt seems too good to hold back.

I'm not sure I can answer this. Hueitt obviously has a specific skillset that we can absolutely use, but Godwin's body might be more ready to play college ball. But, as you point out, there aren't that many minutes available. Our best hope is that Green can become a serviceable backup PG. That would be a great way for him to get minutes.

The way I see it is like this:

PG: Caver, Green, Fields
2/3: BJ, Talley, Haynes, Hueitt, Godwin
3/4: Talley and the bigs

Honestly, if I had to guess, neither of them redshirt. I'm not sure either of the new kids will average more than 10 minutes per game, but I think Jeff just might want all of his weapons available.

I agree neither will red shirt....We have tried Green at the point and it isn't working out. I think JJ plans on trying to use one of the new recruits at the point. Have to wait and see if it works. If it does it is a way to get more playing time.

How does Green look in practice? I was very excited about him after watching him play in high school.
When the season started JJ tried Green at the point. Green wasn't ready, not only physically but also from a leadership role. At the time he was a little unsure and not vocal enough. As the season progresses Green is developing nicely. Green is going to be a nice player for us. I am not sure if he is being groomed to be the point guard of the future because he is not being used at the point in practice. As to your question " How does he look in practice"? He looks like a player that is improving and someone that JJ plans on being part of his plan for the future. I expect you will see a big difference by his Sophomore year.
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(02-16-2017 07:51 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 10:01 PM)757ODU Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 07:35 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 03:08 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(02-14-2017 10:53 AM)mac Wrote:  Coach and 78, a question for next year. With both these guards coming on, and Green becoming available, do you think we redshirt Goodwin next year? Heiutt seems too good to hold back.

I'm not sure I can answer this. Hueitt obviously has a specific skillset that we can absolutely use, but Godwin's body might be more ready to play college ball. But, as you point out, there aren't that many minutes available. Our best hope is that Green can become a serviceable backup PG. That would be a great way for him to get minutes.

The way I see it is like this:

PG: Caver, Green, Fields
2/3: BJ, Talley, Haynes, Hueitt, Godwin
3/4: Talley and the bigs

Honestly, if I had to guess, neither of them redshirt. I'm not sure either of the new kids will average more than 10 minutes per game, but I think Jeff just might want all of his weapons available.

I agree neither will red shirt....We have tried Green at the point and it isn't working out. I think JJ plans on trying to use one of the new recruits at the point. Have to wait and see if it works. If it does it is a way to get more playing time.

How does Green look in practice? I was very excited about him after watching him play in high school.
When the season started JJ tried Green at the point. Green wasn't ready, not only physically but also from a leadership role. At the time he was a little unsure and not vocal enough. As the season progresses Green is developing nicely. Green is going to be a nice player for us. I am not sure if he is being groomed to be the point guard of the future because he is not being used at the point in practice. As to your question " How does he look in practice"? He looks like a player that is improving and someone that JJ plans on being part of his plan for the future. I expect you will see a big difference by his Sophomore year.

Thanks blew!
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757ODU Not sure if I am doing this correctly but here goes....You asks how Green was doing in practice...I had the pleasure of watching him in practice this week and I was very impressed. He shot the ball
GREAT. He is really playing at a high level. JJ is using him at the 2 spot mostly and some at the 3. He is a lot like Talley. However ,I have to say I like Green a little bit more than Talley. Don't see him playing the point but he does handle the ball well. Also , he has gotten a lot stronger and he is a true 6ft6. One more thing. He can flat out shot the 3. Hope this helps.
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That is an awesome report. Thanks so much. We are getting some good players in here. The future seems very bright to me.
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(02-18-2017 08:19 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  757ODU Not sure if I am doing this correctly but here goes....You asks how Green was doing in practice...I had the pleasure of watching him in practice this week and I was very impressed. He shot the ball
GREAT. He is really playing at a high level. JJ is using him at the 2 spot mostly and some at the 3. He is a lot like Talley. However ,I have to say I like Green a little bit more than Talley. Don't see him playing the point but he does handle the ball well. Also , he has gotten a lot stronger and he is a true 6ft6. One more thing. He can flat out shot the 3. Hope this helps.
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