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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
(03-02-2017 04:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  
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(03-01-2017 04:15 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  The point I keep trying to make is they are not getting an abundance of highly/skilled educated work force. Now or long term. The legislatures are letting the colleges get by with charging inflated prices and dispensing inferior education. Enrollments are increasing at the taxpayers and students expense, but too many are not prepared to get a job.

You keep bringing up all kinds of stuff and dodging the issue we started out discussing and that is whether or not it is best for all concerned to fund winning athletic programs to attract more students at state colleges. I think I have justified why it is not.

I guess I just don't agree with your blanket assumption that current college grads suck. I'd say current grads are probably what they have always been. Some really good, most mediocre, and some not good. Also---if your point is our college grads are not improving our work force---then what alternative work force are you planning to use exactly? Are you actually suggesting that we are worse off with our current crop of college grads than just using the raw work force being turned out by our current primary education system? Because, in reality--- that's the only alternative to college grads we have. By the way, if you think unemployment runs high among college grads---I'd suggest you look at the rate for HS grads and non-HS grads (which is your alternative work force you are advocating).

Look, I do agree that there is a greater sense of entitlement among the current generation and in many---a poorer work ethic---but I don't think you can pin that on colleges. It started long before they got to college.


I never said all college grads suck. So forget that. Those students that graduate from high school that have not completed courses to get into college should not be admitted. Colleges should not be allowed to offer degree programs that are worthless. The Governor of North Carolina has proposed that colleges should have to prove their grads are getting jobs in their chosen major or drop the major.

The alternative is simple. Students that are not college material should be enrolled in vocational education courses. They could even start in high school and then pursue a trade school education.
Welders, electricians, plumbers, auto mechanics etc., can find work, contribute to a needed work force and make a good living.

I guess you just don't want to admit that funding winning athletic teams to increase enrollment is not a good thing for all concerned.

Say what you want, I am not wasting any more time.

First point in bold - you can't do that. HOWEVER, the student loan programs COULD be restructured so that taxpayer money that is directly handed out to the students is wasted on garbage. A litmus test where a degree that can yield tangible employment opportunities is OK to fund thru the gov't student loan program would be appropriate IMHO.

Regarding your second point, I agree in principle. However, it again removes opportunities for students to pursue what they wish in their own lives. It could potentially funnel kids into suboptimal career tracks at an early age when they may be better suited for higher level work if not for a lack of maturity or even learning disabilities. Einstein would have been a plumber under this set up.

maybe Pitt should not suck at everything before you post

Thanks. Forgot the original purpose of the thread. Yes, I support a G5 playoff and championship. I think it will be a great benefit to the G5 and AAC in particular.
03-02-2017 10:32 PM
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
(03-01-2017 04:56 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  The alternative is simple. Students that are not college material should be enrolled in vocational education courses. They could even start in high school and then pursue a trade school education.
Welders, electricians, plumbers, auto mechanics etc., can find work, contribute to a needed work force and make a good living.

Amen! but not by force as you corrected yourself in a later post. We need to be introducing trades earlier and more often as a viable alternative. Many trades have better income opportunities than most of the liberal arts 4 year degrees.

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Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
The group of 5 playoff idea has gone away in this thread, but it's true that some college grads do suck ! I've dated a few so I know it's true...
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03-07-2017 09:27 AM
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(03-07-2017 09:27 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  The group of 5 playoff idea has gone away in this thread, but it's true that some college grads do suck ! I've dated a few so I know it's true...

We really don't need to know about your activities in certain Montrose bars
03-07-2017 07:21 PM
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(03-02-2017 10:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Thanks. Forgot the original purpose of the thread. Yes, I support a G5 playoff and championship. I think it will be a great benefit to the G5 and AAC in particular.

It should be a +1 format. Let these conferences play their bowls as they please. After the bowls, a new selection committee chooses the best two teams to play for this G5 Cup.
03-07-2017 08:11 PM
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
The idea is going away. If the idea even existed. Dennis Fraud talked to a guy at NIU named Frazier and wrote a fake news bait click "article". No one wants this.

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03-07-2017 08:23 PM
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Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
(03-07-2017 07:21 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(03-07-2017 09:27 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  The group of 5 playoff idea has gone away in this thread, but it's true that some college grads do suck ! I've dated a few so I know it's true...

We really don't need to know about your activities in certain Montrose bars

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