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Question about conference membership rules
There have been references to ND having to put their football in the ACC if they were to join a conference. Others about Uconn "parking" their football somewhere so they could join a BB conference.

My understanding is the NCAA has a rule that, if your primary conference sponsors a sport, your choices are in the conference or independent. For example, ND could not move it's basketball to the nBE but they could move to independent.

Is this an NCAA rule or, in Notre Dame's case, a contract requirement? It seems like an important distinction. Contracts require negotiation and probably some form of compensation. While the NCAA generally moves at a glacial pace, rules can change.
02-12-2017 02:02 PM
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Because they're ND, they get special treatment, but you're correct about UCONN AFAIK.
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A school can play all its sports in separate conferences if it can make those arrangements. The NCAA will not recognize it as belonging to any conference, so it can miss out on money. Normally, a school is a member of a conference in most sports, but is free to have sports which that conference doesn't sponsor in others as affiliated members. Conference normally require a school to be all in, not the NCAA. The ACC allowed ND to keep football out, and the NCAA rules would allow any school to do that and more.
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Thanks NoDak! I thought it was just the Irish with that special treatment. And of course you're correct about conferences not sponsoring certain sports.
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(02-12-2017 04:11 PM)NoDak Wrote:  A school can play all its sports in separate conferences if it can make those arrangements. The NCAA will not recognize it as belonging to any conference, so it can miss out on money. Normally, a school is a member of a conference in most sports, but is free to have sports which that conference doesn't sponsor in others as affiliated members. Conference normally require a school to be all in, not the NCAA. The ACC allowed ND to keep football out, and the NCAA rules would allow any school to do that and more.

Agreed. The question was, is it an NCAA rule, contract requirement or both, that would prevent ND from putting FB in a different conference?

I can only imagine the nightmare of 20 sports in 20 different conferences.
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A school's primary conference is the one in which it plays basketball.
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A school can only have a sport in a different conference if their main conference doesn't sponsor that sport, and I believe this is an NCAA rule. For example, Kentucky soccer is in C-USA because the SEC doesn't sponsor soccer.

Choosing independence in a sport that is sponsored by your main conference is negotiated, i.e. Notre Dame football. By NCAA rule, they can't have their football another conference since the ACC sponsors football. They'd have to move all their other sports to a conference like the Big East if they wanted to join a conference in football only. Obviously they could choose independence in everything but that's ridiculous.
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(02-12-2017 02:02 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  There have been references to ND having to put their football in the ACC if they were to join a conference. Others about Uconn "parking" their football somewhere so they could join a BB conference.

My understanding is the NCAA has a rule that, if your primary conference sponsors a sport, your choices are in the conference or independent. For example, ND could not move it's basketball to the nBE but they could move to independent.

Is this an NCAA rule or, in Notre Dame's case, a contract requirement? It seems like an important distinction. Contracts require negotiation and probably some form of compensation. While the NCAA generally moves at a glacial pace, rules can change.

Topper Card/Hillinals is right.

ND also signed an agreement a few years ago that stated if they wanted to join a conference for football anytime by ~2034 that it had to be the ACC.
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(02-13-2017 09:35 AM)TopperCard Wrote:  A school can only have a sport in a different conference if their main conference doesn't sponsor that sport, and I believe this is an NCAA rule. For example, Kentucky soccer is in C-USA because the SEC doesn't sponsor soccer.

Choosing independence in a sport that is sponsored by your main conference is negotiated, i.e. Notre Dame football. By NCAA rule, they can't have their football another conference since the ACC sponsors football. They'd have to move all their other sports to a conference like the Big East if they wanted to join a conference in football only. Obviously they could choose independence in everything but that's ridiculous.

The best was when Miami was independent in baseball and had no basketball
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