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Josh Pastner? I see a lot of similarities between the two situations. Two fan bases who's expectations are a little too high, IMO. We tried to warn the Memphis fans that things would not be the same, but they did not listen. They just thought the train would keep moving. All they said was he's a great recruiter, and blah, blah, blah. There's a big difference between being the assistant and the head man. I don't think you should lower your expectations, but you should be real with yourself and expect some growing pains as he cuts his teeth. At a minimum he gets three years to show progress. What I see, isn't great, but it's far from bad. I just think we need to let him get more experience, and not blame him for every little detail. It takes time to get the details down. Nobody is perfect. JMO

As someone close to both situations, the only similarity is they were both new coaches. Similarities end there.

1. Pastner was a last choice after numerous big names turned Memphis down. Ehsan was 1st choice.
2. Pastner had only been an assistant for one year at Memphis. Ehsan has been here four years.
3. Pastner didn't start losing Memphis support widespread until they entered the American Conference. Apparently UAB fans are turning after less than one year.
4. The entire City of Memphis is obsessed with Tiger Basketball. UAB basketball is an afterthought in the city of Birmingham.

I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

(02-12-2017 02:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

Rob needs to hire a veteran bench coach to be the heavy.

(02-12-2017 02:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

This is my thought process as well. Let's give him at least one more year until we declare him an absolute disaster. One thing that this season has shown us is that we are very thin at pg. we hopefully have help coming in next year

(02-12-2017 02:10 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 02:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

Rob needs to hire a veteran bench coach to be the heavy.

And defensive minded...

(02-12-2017 04:03 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 02:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

This is my thought process as well. Let's give him at least one more year until we declare him an absolute disaster. One thing that this season has shown us is that we are very thin at pg. we hopefully have help coming in next year

He's gonna get that year and probably at least another. Doesn't matter what is said on BlazerTalk. UAB has a high tolerance for mediocrity and a higher athletic priority in football.

I think about sometimes how lucky we were for Coach Clark to come along when he did but the real luck was Louisville hiring McGee away. If not we would have kept McGoof another season and seen the program go gently into that good night.

(02-12-2017 04:33 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 04:03 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 02:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

This is my thought process as well. Let's give him at least one more year until we declare him an absolute disaster. One thing that this season has shown us is that we are very thin at pg. we hopefully have help coming in next year

He's gonna get that year and probably at least another. Doesn't matter what is said on BlazerTalk. UAB has a high tolerance for mediocrity and a higher athletic priority in football.

I think about sometimes how lucky we were for Coach Clark to come along when he did but the real luck was Louisville hiring McGee away. If not we would have kept McGoof another season and seen the program go gently into that good night.

I've always said coaches deserve three seasons. Extenuating circumstances can vary that slightly in my mind, but I really think any guy you decided was good enough to hire deserves three full seasons before getting canned.

(02-12-2017 05:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 04:33 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 04:03 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 02:04 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I think Ehsan is still learning the ropes as head coach, no doubt. The refs give him little respect. I'm not sure that the players give him enough respect either. He's been the guy who recruited them and their friend for the whole time that they've been at UAB in most cases. I think that he needs to get angry and chew some ass when they look flat, and not be afraid to put some ass*s on benches if they are not putting out the effort needed.

It's too early to panic. Every HC has to have his first year or two where he learns where the differences between HC and AC. He may need to do some tweaking of the offense or defense. I'm sure that the coaches will be looking adjustments on the fly as well at what systemic changes are needed for next season.

This is my thought process as well. Let's give him at least one more year until we declare him an absolute disaster. One thing that this season has shown us is that we are very thin at pg. we hopefully have help coming in next year

He's gonna get that year and probably at least another. Doesn't matter what is said on BlazerTalk. UAB has a high tolerance for mediocrity and a higher athletic priority in football.

I think about sometimes how lucky we were for Coach Clark to come along when he did but the real luck was Louisville hiring McGee away. If not we would have kept McGoof another season and seen the program go gently into that good night.

I've always said coaches deserve three seasons. Extenuating circumstances can vary that slightly in my mind, but I really think any guy you decided was good enough to hire deserves three full seasons before getting canned.

Three years is reasonable, but every basketball coach that has been terminated by UAB was not fired until after the sixth year. If some of these fans are antsy after less than a year, they will never make it that long. You have to pace yourself if you truly love UAB.

He is the coach UAB fans protested, yelled for, and demanded.
So Rob is the coach peopled asked for. So suck it up and deal with it.

Currently yes, but these last two scholarships will tell us.

This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

(02-12-2017 07:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

I think coach Rob, new we were going to have full capacity to beat a team like that and we did not get it, Our young guys did not show show up, we had one guy show up to play and the rest did not but hey you think we can play we did pretty good against Mark Price and company so who do we play next.

All the Ehsan this and Ehsan that after every loss is also similar to Memphis.

What I think could be helpful in the offseason for him would be to reach out to some other head coaches and pick their brains about some of the situations he's had to deal with. Coaches he knows and ones he doesn't. Would be cool if he could hook up with an NBA team during the playoffs and see what some of those head men go through. Gregg Popovich would be a good mentor.

(02-12-2017 07:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

I don't know what world you're living in, but a 174RPI in a 25th ranked CUSA with a 15-11 overall record isn't doing great. We just got blown out at home by a 15-10 team.

Losing one game to a hot shooting team is fine. Losing multiple games is a trend

We must be really unlucky if we've caught UTSA, FIU, and ODU all on their hot shooting nights.

(02-12-2017 07:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

I don't know what world you're living in, but a 174RPI in a 25th ranked CUSA with a 15-11 overall record isn't doing great. We just got blown out at home by a 15-10 team.

Losing one game to a hot shooting team is fine. Losing multiple games is a trend

We must be really unlucky if we've caught UTSA, FIU, and ODU all on their hot shooting nights.

You Know, I Tend to agree with what you said by the numbers but look who we have played with what we have played still think it can be a great year, look at the trend of wins and losses in our conference and tell me where we should of won and were we should of lost with what we have its a great year play they game of ifs and its and tell me how we could be sitting better.

If we can get 3 more wins in the next and get to the semis in the conference then this a great year with a chance to win the tournament if we lose the next 3 games and have to fight to win one game in the conference were out or in, So a lot to play for. You can through the RPI out were not getting an at large bid if we don't win these games you can hope for the NIT which I doubt will happen that game is for like the Penn States and North Carolina St's. That well you kNow. So Get ready for next year or Play and show up know. Who do you think we are. Mike Anderson and beating Kentucky.

(02-12-2017 08:02 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

I don't know what world you're living in, but a 174RPI in a 25th ranked CUSA with a 15-11 overall record isn't doing great. We just got blown out at home by a 15-10 team.

Losing one game to a hot shooting team is fine. Losing multiple games is a trend

We must be really unlucky if we've caught UTSA, FIU, and ODU all on their hot shooting nights.

You Know, I Tend to agree with what you said by the numbers but look who we have played with what we have played still think it can be a great year, look at the trend of wins and losses in our conference and tell me where we should of won and were we should of lost with what we have its a great year play they game of ifs and its and tell me how we could be sitting better.

We lost by 9 to a team that is 4-19. We don't make a 3 with 6 seconds left and we lose by double digits to that 4-19 team. We got blown out by an 11-18 team.

We shouldn't have lost to a mediocre team on the road by nearly 40 points either. Texas has beaten a single other team by double digits all season (EWU)

I'll stop responding now

(02-12-2017 08:16 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:02 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

I don't know what world you're living in, but a 174RPI in a 25th ranked CUSA with a 15-11 overall record isn't doing great. We just got blown out at home by a 15-10 team.

Losing one game to a hot shooting team is fine. Losing multiple games is a trend

We must be really unlucky if we've caught UTSA, FIU, and ODU all on their hot shooting nights.

You Know, I Tend to agree with what you said by the numbers but look who we have played with what we have played still think it can be a great year, look at the trend of wins and losses in our conference and tell me where we should of won and were we should of lost with what we have its a great year play they game of ifs and its and tell me how we could be sitting better.

We lost by 9 to a team that is 4-19. We don't make a 3 with 6 seconds left and we lose by double digits to that 4-19 team. We got blown out by an 11-18 team.

We shouldn't have lost to a mediocre team on the road by nearly 40 points either. Texas has beaten a single other team by double digits all season (EWU)

I'll stop responding now

Me Too, but these Teams seam to show up like we are Notre Dame Enough Said
If we were truly playing like a 4 & 2 team it would be one, but these guys save up for us. They like beating Us That's why we are UAB the team everybody likes to beat. Why You tell me, They play us like we are Notre Dame with that being said we have done good. Tell me it is not True.

(02-12-2017 08:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:16 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:02 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  This is all a great discussion, based on one game at home, that we lost to a hot shooting team, They (Old Dominion) would of beat any body that night (almost anybody)(shooting they whey they did - they run a slow tempo with quick shots and good defense - it hard to beat and hard to play) they played the shots and shot lights out and our 1st and 2nd players (gaurds) played well but could not defend the outside shots. For us - the team, Its hard for players to play with high expectations when their are not many fans in the seats, the crowd did great for the crowd that was their. We have a good coach in his first year. Expectations are their but you must realize this was a 15yr Vet Coach with a team and a mission and he didn't even have to take his shirt off. With all considerations were doing great this year. Know with that being said if we had our point guard and a little more experience it would be better but theirs is so much more to play for. Next Game get ready Hey were playing with a South Alabama fan base in basketball right know say it ain't so.

I don't know what world you're living in, but a 174RPI in a 25th ranked CUSA with a 15-11 overall record isn't doing great. We just got blown out at home by a 15-10 team.

Losing one game to a hot shooting team is fine. Losing multiple games is a trend

We must be really unlucky if we've caught UTSA, FIU, and ODU all on their hot shooting nights.

You Know, I Tend to agree with what you said by the numbers but look who we have played with what we have played still think it can be a great year, look at the trend of wins and losses in our conference and tell me where we should of won and were we should of lost with what we have its a great year play they game of ifs and its and tell me how we could be sitting better.

We lost by 9 to a team that is 4-19. We don't make a 3 with 6 seconds left and we lose by double digits to that 4-19 team. We got blown out by an 11-18 team.

We shouldn't have lost to a mediocre team on the road by nearly 40 points either. Texas has beaten a single other team by double digits all season (EWU)

I'll stop responding now

Me Too, but these Teams seam to show up like we are Notre Dame Enough Said
If we were truly playing like a 4 & 2 team it would be one, but these guys save up for us. They like beating Us That's why we are UAB the team everybody likes to beat. Why You tell me, They play us like we are Notre Dame with that being said we have done good. Tell me it is not True.

Try typing out a coherent, mostly grammatically correct thought, and maybe people could better understand you and have a discussion with you..

(02-12-2017 11:27 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:26 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:16 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 08:02 PM)BirminghamJoseph2770 Wrote:  

(02-12-2017 07:44 PM)Shrack Wrote:  I don't know what world you're living in, but a 174RPI in a 25th ranked CUSA with a 15-11 overall record isn't doing great. We just got blown out at home by a 15-10 team.

Losing one game to a hot shooting team is fine. Losing multiple games is a trend

We must be really unlucky if we've caught UTSA, FIU, and ODU all on their hot shooting nights.

You Know, I Tend to agree with what you said by the numbers but look who we have played with what we have played still think it can be a great year, look at the trend of wins and losses in our conference and tell me where we should of won and were we should of lost with what we have its a great year play they game of ifs and its and tell me how we could be sitting better.

We lost by 9 to a team that is 4-19. We don't make a 3 with 6 seconds left and we lose by double digits to that 4-19 team. We got blown out by an 11-18 team.

We shouldn't have lost to a mediocre team on the road by nearly 40 points either. Texas has beaten a single other team by double digits all season (EWU)

I'll stop responding now

Me Too, but these Teams seam to show up like we are Notre Dame Enough Said
If we were truly playing like a 4 & 2 team it would be one, but these guys save up for us. They like beating Us That's why we are UAB the team everybody likes to beat. Why You tell me, They play us like we are Notre Dame with that being said we have done good. Tell me it is not True.

Try typing out a coherent, mostly grammatically correct thought, and maybe people could better understand you and have a discussion with you..

Let me see if I can help.

"Even though Shrack said something completely different from what I said, I agree with him. Teams seem to think we are Notre Dame. Enough Said. But I will say more. People enjoy beating us. That makes us UAB, because people enjoy beating UAB. Even though I said earlier "Enough Said", I will repeat that the other teams confuse us for Notre Dame. With all that said, we have done well. Tell me it is untrue."