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What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Pick the worst federal government agencies that either need to be downsized, reorganized, or just plain abolished.

1. Defense: Certainly not useless, but very wasteful and inefficient. So much wasteful procurement involved and boondoggle projects. Don't think it needs to be explained in too much detail.

2. The DEA - we have so many horse**** drug laws that need to disappear. I don't know if I would disband it, but it needs to be downsized. Also one of the key heads of the pointless war on drugs hydra.

3. Department of Education. Most of what is done with education at the federal level is crap, period. The federal government has done nothing but **** up education ever since the bipartisan approval or No Child Left Behind ACt 15 years ago. Either try something different or just get rid of this department.

4. Homeland security. Pointless trough through which government contracts are fed (see the department's procurement of billions of rounds of ammunition for some reason). Reason has a good takedown of this one.
(This post was last modified: 02-09-2017 12:09 AM by EigenEagle.)
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Why does an agency like the FDA have its own armed police force? Hell, almost every agency has its own armed police force. I would think the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, Border Patrol and DEA would be enough armed, federal forces. Oh yeah, and TSA.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Education and Energy. The first impeded its' name and the second impedes the production of its' name.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Education
Energy
HUD
Agriculture
DHS and DoD need to be condensed
Commerce
Interior
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
IRS
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Dept. of Commerce

Dept. of Education

Dept. of Housing and Urban Development

Department of the Interior

Start combining others. Then start going through all of the silly agencies that could be erased.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
The Senate and The Congress are worthless and pointless since all they do is call each other names.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Most could be combined in some way or another.

Dept. of Education needs to go, that needs to be returned to the states with very loose federal guidelines.
Housing and Urban Development needs to go to the state level as well.
Dept of Interior is bloated. BLM needs to go.
Energy and Agriculture could be combined or put under Dept. Of Interior
NSA/CIA/FBI and all the rest need to be consolidated.
Defense needs some budget hawks, but I don't necessarily think we need cuts right now. Need to learn to be more efficient and not leave equipment scattered all over the world or let bids get out of control.
FDA needs attention.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
IRS

Dept Education
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
(02-09-2017 08:40 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Most could be combined in some way or another.

Dept. of Education needs to go, that needs to be returned to the states with very loose federal guidelines.
Housing and Urban Development needs to go to the state level as well.
Dept of Interior is bloated. BLM needs to go.
Energy and Agriculture could be combined or put under Dept. Of Interior
FDA needs attention.

These I can agree with 200...

But these two..

Quote:NSA/CIA/FBI and all the rest need to be consolidated.

.Defense needs some budget hawks, but I don't necessarily think we need cuts right now. Need to learn to be more efficient and not leave equipment scattered all over the world or let bids get out of control

I disagree with. CIA and FBI have entirely different mission statements... Now the NSA, yeah, that one I can see.

And I'm opposed to saying "no cuts" to Defense. You may not like it, but one way to get more efficient is to make the cuts and make it work immediately.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
I would have ten departments:
1. State (State, Ambassador to UN, US Trade Representative, Export-Import Bank, Overseas Private Investment Corporation, US Trade & Development Agency)
2. Treasury (Treasury, OMB)
3. Defense (Defense, Veterans’ Affairs, CIA, DNI, overseas parts of Homeland Security)
4. Justice (Justice, FBI, Coast Guard, domestic parts of Homeland Security)
5. Interior and Natural Resources (Interior, Energy, Agriculture, EPA)
6. Commerce and Labor (Commerce, Labor, SBA)
7. Infrastructure (Transportation, HUD)
8. Revenue and Social Security (IRS, which would administer the negative income tax/Boortz-Linder prebate/prefund that would replace existing welfare programs, SSA)
9. Health, Education, and Culture (non-welfare elements of HHS, Bismarck health care system, Education)
10. Ombudsman (public interest representative, transfer Inspector Generals from all departments)

This depends on some specific program implementation as follows:
Defense – bring Veterans’ Affairs back, as a separate department they’ve pretty well screwed the pooch, at least some people in Defense will care because that will be them some day; bring in the overseas elements of Homeland Security, including the intelligence agencies
Justice – bring in the domestic elements of Homeland Security, including FBI and Coast Guard; note that FBI now had jurisdiction domestically, and CIA/DIA have jurisdiction overseas, and the two communicate regularly and accurately
Interior and Natural Resources – combine Interior, Energy, Agriculture, and EPA
Commerce and Labor – combine Commerce, Labor, and SBA
Infrastructure – combine HUD and Transportation
Revenue and Social Security – this is a new department and a mix of functions that have in common that they would be administered by the IRS, plus social security; IRS would administer the Friedman negative income tax or the Boortz/Linder prebate/prefund, which would replace existing welfare programs with a guaranteed income for everyone; SSA would add a privatized function that would be included here
Health, Education, and Culture – I am implementing Bismarck health care, which will go here; the current welfare hodge podge would be farmed out to states with the money they save by replacing Medicaid with Bismarck; Education would be cut back by establishing baseline standards for the states, getting out of detailed micromanaging, administering a school voucher program, and administering student loans
Ombudsman – new department incorporating several functions—ombudsman to serve as place for citizens to appeal harsh rulings by other agencies, public interest counsel to assist and represent citizens in disputes with government agencies, and move inspector general functions from all other departments here to provide independent oversight
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
Everyone always leaves out dept. of Labor. That is just the democrats/unions seat in the US government.

Crooked dept. fighting right to work and non union business.
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RE: What are the most wasteful and/or worthless government departments or agencies?
I'm impressed by the scope of this thread and the results that could come from it.... IF ONLY DC WOULD LISTEN TO US ! ! !

Thanks owl69/70/75....AS USUAL and all the rest of you.

GREAT STUFF ! ! ! !04-bow
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