I just want the names of the posters who bow down to Tubby.

(02-08-2017 05:31 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  I just want the names of the posters who bow down to Tubby.

I don''t have any names, amigo...BUT...if you're one of the ones claiming he's getting too much criticism (when in fact the "criticism" is basically negligible aside from 1-2 message board posters), then put yourself on the list.

(02-08-2017 05:31 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:18 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 02:25 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 02:22 PM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 02:17 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Tulsa:

Tubby went 79-43 in 4 years for a 65% win rate. He went to 2 NCAA tourneys (50% rate) and went 4-2 (67%). He averaged 1 win per year.

The preceding 4 years and following 4 years, saw them go 149-98 for a 60% win rate. They went to 3 NCAA tourneys (38%) and went 2-3 (40%) averaging 1 win every 4 years.

The modern era, excluding the Tubby years, had a record of 721-472 for a 60% win rate. They went to 13 NCAA tourneys (35% rate) and went 7-13 (35%) averaging 1 win every 5 years.

Other: Tubby led Tulsa to their NCAA win ever.

Summary: Tubby exceeded all expectations at Tulsa.

Grade: A

I need you to write my resumes. You could land me CEO of Apple job.

Don't flatter yourself. You would have had to actually earn notable achievements to be listed, like Tubby has done throughout his career...

You forgot to list he hung the moon. This is beyond devious that you find a way to take parts of Tubby's resume when needed but ignore those parts when they don't fit your needs; your grading is hilarious. No one who covers CBB would give him anything over a B at KY. He won the NC his FIRST year there. Virtually any KY ( and many media people) fan will tell you he won it with someone else's players

Dude, you're the one taking "11 years" of his resume to fit your narrative. I listed the entire resume.

And at KY, he did win a NC in 10 years. As I said, that's their average. He also met the averages for winning %, etc. He gets the B because he went to 10 NCAA's in 10 years. Hasn't been done before or since. And he is in their HOF. So all of that at least gets you a B.

You can't reason with that guy. There is no convincing a person who has an agenda.

(02-08-2017 05:33 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  You can't reason with that guy. There is no convincing a person who has an agenda.

Exactly, so why are people still trying?

Blows my mind...put him on ignore the other day, quit responding a while back for the most part.

(02-08-2017 05:21 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  What criticism is he receiving? In the media? Players? Who?

Tubby has received very little criticism overall. Most of the criticism that he has received has come from message board turds whining about his recruiting and calling him old and lazy.

Agree 100%

(02-08-2017 05:30 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:04 PM)TonyTiger06 Wrote:  I agree with you. The criticism Tubby is receiving is unwarranted. Additionally, I wanted to bring to your attention that the "G5" label is strictly for football ... "there are a lot more NCAA Div 1 Men's B'Ball conferences than just five (5)."

What criticism is he receiving? In the media? Players? Who?

This thread is a massive stroke off to him, so it sure can't be here, either? Roar?

You didn't put on knee pads and immediately bow down the day he was hired...therefore, org poster logic dictates that as crushing, unfair criticism.

See, that is where your perspective is skewed because...you wanted someone else in the job?

Fans get excited with coaching hires. They just do. I don't think there was any bowing down, just some excitement from some fans. Many were giddy just because of the circumstances.

But the reason you get put in the "criticism" category, is not because of what you didn't do. You didn't have to bow or even get excited. It's because of what you did - and still do.

That's not really the point.

The point is, he ain't getting much criticism.

Seems some sensitive souls around here.

LOL

I didn't bring up criticism, amigo. I'm just explaining to you the difference between what you didn't do and what you did.

I agree with most that he is not getting much real criticism. It seems to primarily be contained here.

And you're right - it doesn't matter. We just comment on it because that's what we do on message boards. We present stats and debate the analysis. No one is really worked up or worried or overly sensitive. Much like your argument last week about no one really obsessed with Pastner. It's just what we do.

Stay calm, it's a message board, amigo.

(02-08-2017 05:30 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:23 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:15 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  I'm not sure who said Tubby hasn't gotten it done in 15 years, but okay.

Well, there's PL for one explicitly this week. Politics make funny bed fellers for you.

Then there have been plenty of insinuations - if not outright claims. Some say he cares nothing about recruiting any more. Some say he's just cashing a check. One even has a golden parachute in his signature.

This is meant to show a benchmarked perspective and a bigger picture.

Well, most people just put him on ignore...instead of writing a term paper defending the resume of a coach.

It wasn't just for him, amigo.

I knew there would be 3 of you that would not like this. But I expected more factual arguments, rather than just the same old stuff.

(02-08-2017 05:34 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:33 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  You can't reason with that guy. There is no convincing a person who has an agenda.

Exactly, so why are people still trying?

Blows my mind...put him on ignore the other day, quit responding a while back for the most part.

Yep...

He is a troll only here to

(02-08-2017 05:28 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:21 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  What criticism is he receiving? In the media? Players? Who?

Tubby has received very little criticism overall. Most of the criticism that he has received has come from message board turds whining about his recruiting and calling him old and lazy.

I'm not sure message board "criticism" really counts in the grand scheme of things.

Mostly because:

A) It's a message board.

B) It's a message board.

C) It's a message board.

All that should matter to fans who think ANY coach walks on water is that the media loves him and so do his bosses. The rest I don't see why they worry so much about it.

I simply answered the question that was asked. Do you disagree with any part of my answer?

(02-08-2017 05:32 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:31 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  I just want the names of the posters who bow down to Tubby.

I don''t have any names, amigo...BUT...if you're one of the ones claiming he's getting too much criticism (when in fact the "criticism" is basically negligible aside from 1-2 message board posters), then put yourself on the list.

When the "amigo" comes out frustration has set in.

I'm not on the the list captain. I would never pretend or act like a coach is beyond criticism. That's not my style. I knew Dana but never kissed his azz or acted like he was a water walker. I knew Larry, and loved him dearly, but never thought he was beyond being criticized. I never knew Cal, loved how much charisma he had but dude could be a *rick, but I didn't care about that, I liked the winning. Clearly there were things people could criticize Larry and Dana about, but they both won too. I may have criticized some substitutions or type of defense, but never got into being analytical over them. But I never worshipped over their every move like they were perfect. Of course if you were personal friends with a coach like I was with Larry, listening to criticism wasn't fun, even if some of it was fair. I didn't know josh, didn't want to know him, but the criticism of wonder boy was just and fair, heck I did my fair share of it.

I'm one of the ones that calls out bs like Penny Lane. His criticism is overkill, over the top, and agenda driven. So, if you call Penny Lane's daily bash fest on Tubby is fair, well you're full of it too. Other than that, I've criticized Tubby here over playing time for Keon, and I still don't think he gets enough PT, I think he should have added a better player to go with the Lawson's. I had a problem with him leaving Dedric on the bench too long, he even admitted he should have played him more. I'm not on no list captain. I don't get into azz kissing the coach and acting like he's perfect. It's not me, it's not my style. If I was going to be a kiss azz it would have been with Larry, but I didn't do it. I don't know Tubby, I did meet him and he signed some autographs for my sons, but I don't know him. When I see something Tubby is doing that I don't like, I will say so. I kept asking you because it seemed to me you would know the posters here that kiss up to Tubby, considering you brought it up.

Which assisted living facility is Tubby living in? Is a walker part of his contract? Inquiring minds want to know.

Oh, if you ain't cheating, you aren't trying hard enough. We are Memphis after all.

(02-08-2017 05:34 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:33 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  You can't reason with that guy. There is no convincing a person who has an agenda.

Exactly, so why are people still trying?

Blows my mind...put him on ignore the other day, quit responding a while back for the most part.

You make an excellent point. I just recently did put him on ignore. My thing is I can't stand bullies and punks, so that's why I kept it going. I see it does no good. My fault is I didn't see it faster. Several of you guys knew to put him on ignore lots quicker than myself.

Again, my thing is I just can't stand Internet bullies and that's what he is.

I have no problem with you.

(02-08-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:30 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  What criticism is he receiving? In the media? Players? Who?

This thread is a massive stroke off to him, so it sure can't be here, either? Roar?

You didn't put on knee pads and immediately bow down the day he was hired...therefore, org poster logic dictates that as crushing, unfair criticism.

See, that is where your perspective is skewed because...you wanted someone else in the job?

Fans get excited with coaching hires. They just do. I don't think there was any bowing down, just some excitement from some fans. Many were giddy just because of the circumstances.

But the reason you get put in the "criticism" category, is not because of what you didn't do. You didn't have to bow or even get excited. It's because of what you did - and still do.

That's not really the point.

The point is, he ain't getting much criticism.

Seems some sensitive souls around here.

LOL

I didn't bring up criticism, amigo. I'm just explaining to you the difference between what you didn't do and what you did.

I agree with most that he is not getting much real criticism. It seems to primarily be contained here.

And you're right - it doesn't matter. We just comment on it because that's what we do on message boards. We present stats and debate the analysis. No one is really worked up or worried or overly sensitive. Much like your argument last week about no one really obsessed with Pastner. It's just what we do.

Stay calm, it's a message board, amigo.

TL;DR

(02-08-2017 06:10 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:28 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:21 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  What criticism is he receiving? In the media? Players? Who?

Tubby has received very little criticism overall. Most of the criticism that he has received has come from message board turds whining about his recruiting and calling him old and lazy.

I'm not sure message board "criticism" really counts in the grand scheme of things.

Mostly because:

A) It's a message board.

B) It's a message board.

C) It's a message board.

All that should matter to fans who think ANY coach walks on water is that the media loves him and so do his bosses. The rest I don't see why they worry so much about it.

I simply answered the question that was asked. Do you disagree with any part of my answer?

See above hotshot.

(02-08-2017 08:26 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:30 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  You didn't put on knee pads and immediately bow down the day he was hired...therefore, org poster logic dictates that as crushing, unfair criticism.

See, that is where your perspective is skewed because...you wanted someone else in the job?

Fans get excited with coaching hires. They just do. I don't think there was any bowing down, just some excitement from some fans. Many were giddy just because of the circumstances.

But the reason you get put in the "criticism" category, is not because of what you didn't do. You didn't have to bow or even get excited. It's because of what you did - and still do.

That's not really the point.

The point is, he ain't getting much criticism.

Seems some sensitive souls around here.

LOL

I didn't bring up criticism, amigo. I'm just explaining to you the difference between what you didn't do and what you did.

I agree with most that he is not getting much real criticism. It seems to primarily be contained here.

And you're right - it doesn't matter. We just comment on it because that's what we do on message boards. We present stats and debate the analysis. No one is really worked up or worried or overly sensitive. Much like your argument last week about no one really obsessed with Pastner. It's just what we do.

Stay calm, it's a message board, amigo.

TL;DR

YYTTTTR

A lot of letters.

(02-08-2017 08:27 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 06:10 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:28 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:21 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 04:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  What criticism is he receiving? In the media? Players? Who?

Tubby has received very little criticism overall. Most of the criticism that he has received has come from message board turds whining about his recruiting and calling him old and lazy.

I'm not sure message board "criticism" really counts in the grand scheme of things.

Mostly because:

A) It's a message board.

B) It's a message board.

C) It's a message board.

All that should matter to fans who think ANY coach walks on water is that the media loves him and so do his bosses. The rest I don't see why they worry so much about it.

I simply answered the question that was asked. Do you disagree with any part of my answer?

See above hotshot.

Message board criticism really doesn't count on a message board? Please elaborate.

(02-08-2017 05:31 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  I just want the names of the posters who bow down to Tubby.

Quote:TubbyTime

TubbyTime

TubbyTime

I mean I ain't sayin. I'm just sayin.

(02-08-2017 11:01 PM)Briskbas Wrote:  

(02-08-2017 05:31 PM)TubbyTime Wrote:  I just want the names of the posters who bow down to Tubby.

Quote:TubbyTime

TubbyTime

TubbyTime

I mean I ain't sayin. I'm just sayin.

Nope
Nope and
Nope

Either you don't read all of my posts, which is fine cause I don't read everybody's either, or you are aware that I have criticized Tubby and chose to be dishonest.
Next you'll be telling me I bowed down to Joshie.