(02-09-2017 11:27 AM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 11:21 AM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 11:16 AM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  Survey is live folks! godspeed

I didn't get an email. When did you get it?

I got it at 10:03 CST. already completed mine... avoiding my to do list at the office.

Same here.

I wish they followed up the question about words describing the personality of JMU with a question about words you would use to describe where you'd like to see JMU's personality be in the future.

I got mine this morning. In 4, 8 and 12 I wrote the same thing: "Move to Football Bowl Subdivision"

Lol - I just finished mine. I put pretty high marks but low ones for vision and action. And of course I said we need to align w the right types of institutions. Conference wise and also I don't want JMU to be recognized as a top 10 regional university in the south. That means dickola to me

(02-09-2017 12:20 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  I don't want JMU to be recognized as a top 10 regional university in the south. That means dickola to me

Then why did you choose JMU? (Assuming you attended.) Not trolling; genuinely curious.

For me - being recognized as a top value in the south, combined with a phenomenal initial visit, and additional recognition for my major, sealed the deal. JMU had by far the lowest-profile athletics of all the schools to which I applied, and I have no regrets. I m happy with JMU's growth, and would continue to support smart, paced growth - but I didn't choose JMU because I thought there was a chance it could be highly recognized on a national context in XX years.

What a joke of a survey!!!!!

(02-07-2017 03:22 PM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 02:40 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  sholudn't they be sampling from non-alumni for this?

was my second thought after wondering who's fault it was that missed the completion [insert date]. That anyone receiving that email has a skewed vantage point of what JMU is, was and will be. It would make way more sense to send to employers, circles of friends, etc.

Why would that make "way more sense?" What sort of response rate do you think this survey would get from non-alums? Say you received this same survey from ODU or VCU because they wanted input from non-alums - would you take the time to thoughtfully complete? Of course not - you'd immediately delete it. I think they are perfectly right to survey alums, because we are the ones who are potential donors and would be steering kids to JMU in the future.

(02-10-2017 08:23 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  What a joke of a survey!!!!!

more listening, no substance.

i had to ask them to turn down the drumbeat of "inclusion, collaboration, and engagement"... i mean WE GET IT...it's important, but we need a balanced message and focus that also preaches "business, growth, and entrepreneurship".

and of course, go FBS

(02-10-2017 11:02 AM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  i had to ask them to turn down the drumbeat of "inclusion, collaboration, and engagement"... i mean WE GET IT...it's important, but we need a balanced message and focus that also preaches "business, growth, and entrepreneurship".

and of course, go FBS

That was me, too. I said we are really great about broadcasting how inclusive and aware and engaged and all that we are...but not as much about defining ourselves as sending out people ready to grow and be business leaders and entrepreneurs. (I don't doubt we do that for our students, I'm just not sure the school is doing a great job of giving out that message, which is what I think it was asking.)

I mentioned getting and keeping alumni involved via support/giving as inseparable from the rest of this. I added that athletics could be a big part of it.

Personally, I like the idea of developing a flagship graduate/PHD program and mentioned that, but that's long-term if it ever happens.

(02-09-2017 12:01 PM)Nerfherder95 Wrote:  I got mine this morning. In 4, 8 and 12 I wrote the same thing: "Move to Football Bowl Subdivision"

You may never get another survey

(02-09-2017 01:05 PM)DMadison Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 12:20 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  I don't want JMU to be recognized as a top 10 regional university in the south. That means dickola to me

Then why did you choose JMU? (Assuming you attended.) Not trolling; genuinely curious.

For me - being recognized as a top value in the south, combined with a phenomenal initial visit, and additional recognition for my major, sealed the deal. JMU had by far the lowest-profile athletics of all the schools to which I applied, and I have no regrets. I m happy with JMU's growth, and would continue to support smart, paced growth - but I didn't choose JMU because I thought there was a chance it could be highly recognized on a national context in XX years.

That rankings means very little when you look at the schools ranked above us.

Rank - School - Enrollment
#1 - Elon - 5,903
#2 - Rollins - 1,948
#3 - The Citadel - 2,671
#4 - Samford - 3,168
#5 - Stetson - 3,084
#6 - Belmont - 5,983
#7 - Berry College - 2,123
#8 - JMU - 19,396

Which one sticks out like a sore thumb?

jmu-fan-1981 was likely not looking at small private liberal arts schools with 3,000 students when considering JMU. I know I wasn't. This has nothing to do with athletics. It has to do with being categorized alongside schools like Berry College instead of schools like W&M, UVA, Va Tech, and Old Dominion.

Completed the survey this morning. I didn't really want to ding the marketing and communications efforts in terms of their content and quality- I think those are really pretty good. It's just the scope and scale of their efforts are still so local/regional. The whole "masters regional" and FCS/CAA things make it challenging to be heard and seen nationally. We're just on a small stage and even with amazing talent, it's like one of those Little Rascals episodes where they're promoting the show by passing out flyers and hanging a sign on Petey...

Haven't taken it yet

Curious if any mention of JMU Giving Day in it? Or at the end even? It's coming up in about a month

(02-10-2017 08:34 AM)DMadison Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 03:22 PM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 02:40 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  sholudn't they be sampling from non-alumni for this?

was my second thought after wondering who's fault it was that missed the completion [insert date]. That anyone receiving that email has a skewed vantage point of what JMU is, was and will be. It would make way more sense to send to employers, circles of friends, etc.

Why would that make "way more sense?" What sort of response rate do you think this survey would get from non-alums? Say you received this same survey from ODU or VCU because they wanted input from non-alums - would you take the time to thoughtfully complete? Of course not - you'd immediately delete it. I think they are perfectly right to survey alums, because we are the ones who are potential donors and would be steering kids to JMU in the future.

I believe that is something important to point out about JMU. When meeting folks in TX, they ask when did you graduate? When we answered "we didn't, we're just fans/supporters" they look at you like you're crazy. We started following/supporting JMU when one of my kids became a student.

I've also donate to VCU, have been for many years and I'm not an alum. I started giving money because they sent a marketing guy to local businesses asking for a donation, in exchange they gave you basketball tickets. (Back when they couldn't give tickets away) I believe at that time, VCU was looking to become more of a national brand than just a local college.

My opinion is the non-alum is the market that a school should be going after. The guy/girl that owns the 10 McDonalds in H-burg is a opportunity even though he/she may have graduated from U of R or Duke.

(02-10-2017 12:23 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 01:05 PM)DMadison Wrote:  

(02-09-2017 12:20 PM)jmu-fan-1981 Wrote:  I don't want JMU to be recognized as a top 10 regional university in the south. That means dickola to me

Then why did you choose JMU? (Assuming you attended.) Not trolling; genuinely curious.

For me - being recognized as a top value in the south, combined with a phenomenal initial visit, and additional recognition for my major, sealed the deal. JMU had by far the lowest-profile athletics of all the schools to which I applied, and I have no regrets. I m happy with JMU's growth, and would continue to support smart, paced growth - but I didn't choose JMU because I thought there was a chance it could be highly recognized on a national context in XX years.

That rankings means very little when you look at the schools ranked above us.

Rank - School - Enrollment
#1 - Elon - 5,903
#2 - Rollins - 1,948
#3 - The Citadel - 2,671
#4 - Samford - 3,168
#5 - Stetson - 3,084
#6 - Belmont - 5,983
#7 - Berry College - 2,123
#8 - JMU - 19,396

Which one sticks out like a sore thumb?

jmu-fan-1981 was likely not looking at small private liberal arts schools with 3,000 students when considering JMU. I know I wasn't. This has nothing to do with athletics. It has to do with being categorized alongside schools like Berry College instead of schools like W&M, UVA, Va Tech, and Old Dominion.

Yup...

(02-10-2017 01:43 PM)RamDawg Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 08:34 AM)DMadison Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 03:22 PM)JMUrcc06 Wrote:  

(02-07-2017 02:40 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  sholudn't they be sampling from non-alumni for this?

was my second thought after wondering who's fault it was that missed the completion [insert date]. That anyone receiving that email has a skewed vantage point of what JMU is, was and will be. It would make way more sense to send to employers, circles of friends, etc.

Why would that make "way more sense?" What sort of response rate do you think this survey would get from non-alums? Say you received this same survey from ODU or VCU because they wanted input from non-alums - would you take the time to thoughtfully complete? Of course not - you'd immediately delete it. I think they are perfectly right to survey alums, because we are the ones who are potential donors and would be steering kids to JMU in the future.

I believe that is something important to point out about JMU. When meeting folks in TX, they ask when did you graduate? When we answered "we didn't, we're just fans/supporters" they look at you like you're crazy. We started following/supporting JMU when one of my kids became a student.

I've also donate to VCU, have been for many years and I'm not an alum. I started giving money because they sent a marketing guy to local businesses asking for a donation, in exchange they gave you basketball tickets. (Back when they couldn't give tickets away) I believe at that time, VCU was looking to become more of a national brand than just a local college.

My opinion is the non-alum is the market that a school should be going after. The guy/girl that owns the 10 McDonalds in H-burg is a opportunity even though he/she may have graduated from U of R or Duke.

Many of our alumni don't see this as an avenue for JMU, but I definitely get it. I know a guy who was a cook in the Marines got out and started opening up McDonalds. I think he now has seven and never got a degree, but is a very successful entrepreneur. There are a lot of these people out there which JMU needs to get in front of.

In addition I work in manufacturing, at our business the employees are compensated very well and with an overwhelming majority not college educated, though many are veterans. Yet almost all have a desire for their children to go beyond high school. Bottom line is that we don't need to be sticking our nose up in the air to anyone.

What has Alger accomplished since taking office in 2012?

Faculty compensation has been addressed to a degree. Outside of that, I don't know.

(02-10-2017 05:11 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Faculty compensation has been addressed to a degree. Outside of that, I don't know.

...and remember, his question is, "what has Alger accomplished?" Not, what has been going on at JMU.

(02-10-2017 10:25 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 08:23 AM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  What a joke of a survey!!!!!

more listening, no substance.

Deez, when did you come to the dark side? Or did hazed hack your account?