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RE: How will "Bathroom Bills" impact college sports?
From the bill

Quote:Exceptions
The Legislature created exceptions in AB 1887 that allow travel to banned states in certain circumstances. (Gov. Code, § 11139.8, subd. ©.) These exceptions only apply if travel to a subject state is "required." (Ibid.)

Specifically, AB 1887 does not apply to state travel that is required for any of the following purposes:

Enforcement of California law, including auditing and revenue collection.
Litigation.
To meet contractual obligations incurred before January 1, 2017.
To comply with requests by the federal government to appear before committees.
To participate in meetings or training required by a grant or required to maintain grant funding.
To complete job-required training necessary to maintain licensure or similar standards required for holding a position, in the event that comparable training cannot be obtained in California or a different state not subject to the travel prohibition.
For the protection of public health, welfare, or safety, as determined by the affected agency, department, board, authority, or commission, or by the affected legislative office.

So any games with a signed contract before Jan. 1 would be exempt from the bill. As for conference play, I'm no legal expert but if conference affiliation is considered a contract for this purpose, that would clear the way for UCLA and Cal to go to Washington and Washington State for PAC 12 games if Washington goes through with its bill.

It would put a crimp in future non-conference scheduling for sure, though I'm guessing with the exception of Kansas/North Carolina/Duke basketball, there won't be a lot of non-con games involving trips to the states in question.
02-06-2017 08:57 PM
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RE: How will "Bathroom Bills" impact college sports?
(02-06-2017 08:57 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  From the bill

Quote:Exceptions
The Legislature created exceptions in AB 1887 that allow travel to banned states in certain circumstances. (Gov. Code, § 11139.8, subd. ©.) These exceptions only apply if travel to a subject state is "required." (Ibid.)

Specifically, AB 1887 does not apply to state travel that is required for any of the following purposes:

Enforcement of California law, including auditing and revenue collection.
Litigation.
To meet contractual obligations incurred before January 1, 2017.
To comply with requests by the federal government to appear before committees.
To participate in meetings or training required by a grant or required to maintain grant funding.
To complete job-required training necessary to maintain licensure or similar standards required for holding a position, in the event that comparable training cannot be obtained in California or a different state not subject to the travel prohibition.
For the protection of public health, welfare, or safety, as determined by the affected agency, department, board, authority, or commission, or by the affected legislative office.

So any games with a signed contract before Jan. 1 would be exempt from the bill. As for conference play, I'm no legal expert but if conference affiliation is considered a contract for this purpose, that would clear the way for UCLA and Cal to go to Washington and Washington State for PAC 12 games if Washington goes through with its bill.

It would put a crimp in future non-conference scheduling for sure, though I'm guessing with the exception of Kansas/North Carolina/Duke basketball, there won't be a lot of non-con games involving trips to the states in question.
02-06-2017 09:52 PM
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RE: How will "Bathroom Bills" impact college sports?
Could this California bathroom bill entice P12 schools outside of California to move to the B12.
02-06-2017 09:54 PM
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It can put teams in an awkward position, especially for the NCAA Tournament for Olympic sports where you can't really control where teams go.

Last year UC Santa Barbara baseball was sent to Vanderbilt for a regional. Let's say we were to meet them in a Super Regional. The travel ban prevents us from going to Nashville, and our facility is not suitable for hosting. What then?
02-07-2017 12:30 AM
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NC HB2 causing problems for Elon's 2017 football schedule (link to full article is below/not a long article if you want to read it)

"Elon is slated to play the State University of New York at Albany in a home game in 2017, but New York’s ban on nonessential travel to the state of North Carolina has created complications for the two schools and the Colonial Athletic Association (CAA).

And while most schools in the CAA have released their schedules during the past few days, Elon’s and UAlbany’s remain in limbo while the schools and CAA commissioner Joe D’Antonio attempt to work out a way to play the game.

When New York Governor Andrew Cuomo banned all non-essential state travel to North Carolina March 28, 2016, the CAA did not feel an immediate impact from the move. The only all-sports school from New York — Hofstra University — is a private institution, and thus not beholden to the ban.

But two football-only schools — UAlbany and Stony Brook University — are state schools. Elon played at UAlbany Oct. 29, 2016, and Albany is supposed to return to face the Phoenix in 2017.

In a phone interview Saturday, Jan. 21, CAA spokesman Rob Washburn said the parties are exploring all alternatives, but didn’t comment when asked if the game may not be played at all." (Bold is mine)

http://www.elonnewsnetwork.com/article/2...y-new-york

Don't think the ACC has any scheduling issues (besides they can't get NCAA sanctioned events). I don't know about other schools here in NC but HB2 is certainly having an impact on Elon.
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The bathroom bill not so much

The larger question of social construct gender vs biological/genetic sex though has huge implications for women's collegiate sports. For example, if men who identify as women are allowed to play on women's teams, how long before few if any biological females are playing college basketball?
02-07-2017 09:06 AM
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RE: How will "Bathroom Bills" impact college sports?
I'll be curious to see how restrooms are designed at stadiums and arenas in the future. It's not uncommon already for small restaurants to have two non-gender-specific restrooms, at least in the East Coast cities where I'm likely to be. This would be impractical at a sports facility where you can't dedicate that sort of space to giving everyone exclusive use of a toilet and sink for however long they want. Could we see non-gender-specific sink areas? And larger, more private stalls that aren't gender-specific?
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(02-07-2017 09:06 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  The bathroom bill not so much

The larger question of social construct gender vs biological/genetic sex though has huge implications for women's collegiate sports. For example, if men who identify as women are allowed to play on women's teams, how long before few if any biological females are playing college basketball?

Didn't that happen at the most recent Olympic games? If it begins to happen more often there might be some push back from biological females.
02-07-2017 09:40 AM
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RE: How will "Bathroom Bills" impact college sports?
The Alabama version - which I don't believe has been formally introduced yet - actually includes Bathroom Police.

If the University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa athletic department considers it a problem, it not only will never pass, its sponsor, Phil Williams, will disappear. In fact, that may be what just happened:

http://www.alreporter.com/2016/01/07/sta...stigation/

Williams was apparently also angling for the Sessions senate seat, which the AG also covets, and that may be a different reason for the ethics investigation (no one familiar with Alabama politics believes you come under ethics investigation because of, you know, poor ethics).
02-07-2017 10:44 AM
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(02-07-2017 10:44 AM)58-56 Wrote:  The Alabama version - which I don't believe has been formally introduced yet - actually includes Bathroom Police.

If the University of Alabama-Tuscaloosa athletic department considers it a problem, it not only will never pass, its sponsor, Phil Williams, will disappear. In fact, that may be what just happened:

http://www.alreporter.com/2016/01/07/sta...stigation/

Williams was apparently also angling for the Sessions senate seat, which the AG also covets, and that may be a different reason for the ethics investigation (no one familiar with Alabama politics believes you come under ethics investigation because of, you know, poor ethics).

These Bills are all just dumb. They seek to solve an issue that isn't an issue.

Where exactly do they think transgendered people have been going to the bathroom for the last 100 years? Never in my entire life have I seen a man in a womens dress using a mens public restroom. The reality is transgendered folks have been using the restrooms that they identify with for years without incident. These are laws designed to fix an issue that hasn't been an issue. It never has been an issue. The whole thing is a manufactured crisis and its silly. I hope Texas doesn't lose any major events by passing one of these useless laws. I don't even know how you'd go about enforcing these things without having bathroom police--which apparently Alabama realized.
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