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I believe it was the Texas game where the star sat on the bench a good part of the game and we played better than when he was in there. Interesting....
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or the 2 games JW was hurt and we won. :wingedeagle lots of potential on this team and we still have a shot at a bye. which at this point not sure if that is good or bad. maybe we should play for a road game in the campus games. seems we are playing better on road now.

In my opinion fellas the players are not the problem. A team with Jimmy Hall and Jaylin Walker and to some extend Deon Edwin (even if they were surrounded by a bunch of jags) should be doing much better than 5-6 in the MAC with 4 of those losses at home!!!!!

There is part of me as a fan that is willing to step back and come to terms with the fact that years like this happen. Nobody ever said Kent State is supposed to win every year, let alone every game.

But with each passing mediocre season I wonder if an overhaul at the end of the bench is what is really needed. Look, loyalty to Kent guys/tradition is a part of what has always made KSU hoops important to me.

But when people close to the program are saying things like they are trying hard and they want to succeed so badly so it is upsetting when fans focus on the negative. Hey...did ya ever think maybe the players deserve better than what they've got right now????

The ideal experiment has been taking place with the women's team this year. Last year most of this board who saw a few games saw a bunch of sub-D1 talent. The coach changed and 6-23 is right now 13-11. Lurken is one of the better players in the MAC and so is Korinek. The coach matters. As I said elsewhere Sendy is already at least a slightly above 0.500 coach so improvement of that degree would be unlikely. However it might be time to admit the "the Kent way" isn't what it used to be and a change in coach or at least the coaching philosophy is needed. If you are too inbred insanity eventually follows (that's probabley a bit of an exaggeration but you get my point).

I still can't believe that both teams are sitting at 13-11... Who would've thought at the beginning of the year that the women's team would have the same overall record but a better conference record than the men.

I can't believe I'm saying this about someone with his stats, but I'm looking forward to a non JH-centric team next season.

(02-10-2017 01:07 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  I can't believe I'm saying this about someone with his stats, but I'm looking forward to a non JH-centric team next season.

I feel guilty saying it but I concur with you.

(02-10-2017 08:35 AM)KSU93 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 01:07 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  I can't believe I'm saying this about someone with his stats, but I'm looking forward to a non JH-centric team next season.

I feel guilty saying it but I concur with you.

+1

Kind of like when LeBron gets the ball at times.....

Looks like I started something. I think that our coach is as frustrated as we are. I think that he is seeing too late, that he does not have what he thought he had. It is too bad that he allowed the personality of the team to grow into this situation because once it happens, it is difficult to change. We just have to hope that the young talent has not been poisoned by this year's experience. It actually started last season and grew into this season. As to the PG situation, out of high school, Avery was rated as one of the top five PGs in the State. I believe that he could be developed into a pretty good D1 PG, but not the way this team has been handled. I am also concerned about the handling of Peterson. He is a good player with good BB IQ. He is now playing confused and does not appear to be having fun. Watch coach on the side line and it will answer many questions.

Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

(02-10-2017 11:52 AM)FlashPan Wrote:  Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

That is the point. That is not the way to develop a good young player.

(02-10-2017 12:19 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:52 AM)FlashPan Wrote:  Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

That is the point. That is not the way to develop a good young player.

Absolutely part of the problem. I am not sure I want to go as far as calling for Senderoff's job at the end of the season.

But one of my biggest grievances with his teams has been a lack of role development. I wonder how many of his players have sat there in January/February wondering if they will start tonight or if they will even log 5 minutes. Its flawed and needs to be addressed.

(02-10-2017 12:41 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 12:19 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:52 AM)FlashPan Wrote:  Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

That is the point. That is not the way to develop a good young player.

Absolutely part of the problem. I am not sure I want to go as far as calling for Senderoff's job at the end of the season.

But one of my biggest grievances with his teams has been a lack of role development. I wonder how many of his players have sat there in January/February wondering if they will start tonight or if they will even log 5 minutes. Its flawed and needs to be addressed.

(02-10-2017 12:41 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 12:19 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:52 AM)FlashPan Wrote:  Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

That is the point. That is not the way to develop a good young player.

Absolutely part of the problem. I am not sure I want to go as far as calling for Senderoff's job at the end of the season.

But one of my biggest grievances with his teams has been a lack of role development. I wonder how many of his players have sat there in January/February wondering if they will start tonight or if they will even log 5 minutes. Its flawed and needs to be addressed.

In coach's defense, on the BG post game wrap up Ty Linder mentioned that Mitch Peterson's lack of time was due to the fact that he rolled an ankle.

(02-10-2017 03:16 PM)ksur1 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 12:41 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 12:19 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:52 AM)FlashPan Wrote:  Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

That is the point. That is not the way to develop a good young player.

Absolutely part of the problem. I am not sure I want to go as far as calling for Senderoff's job at the end of the season.

But one of my biggest grievances with his teams has been a lack of role development. I wonder how many of his players have sat there in January/February wondering if they will start tonight or if they will even log 5 minutes. Its flawed and needs to be addressed.

In coach's defense, on the BG post game wrap up Ty Linder mentioned that Mitch Peterson's lack of time was due to the fact that he rolled an ankle.

Pippen also and Zabo went down also, hope everyone is ok for Toledo

(02-10-2017 03:16 PM)ksur1 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 12:41 PM)fallsdog Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 12:19 PM)GFlash68 Wrote:  

(02-10-2017 11:52 AM)FlashPan Wrote:  Peterson is a good solid player. But it seems you see him and then he disappears from the lineup.

That is the point. That is not the way to develop a good young player.

Absolutely part of the problem. I am not sure I want to go as far as calling for Senderoff's job at the end of the season.

But one of my biggest grievances with his teams has been a lack of role development. I wonder how many of his players have sat there in January/February wondering if they will start tonight or if they will even log 5 minutes. Its flawed and needs to be addressed.

In coach's defense, on the BG post game wrap up Ty Linder mentioned that Mitch Peterson's lack of time was due to the fact that he rolled an ankle.

I think you might have gotten your "P"s mixed up. I was at the game and I also heard the post broadcast. It was Danny Pippin that rolled an ankle, not Peterson. I could be wrong, but I never saw Peterson being helped off the court with an injury. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

I did hear coach Steinberg on the post game mention that Mitch rolled an ankle, but if I am not mistaken, he was on the floor at the end of the game. BTW, he really sounded frustrated and puzzled about this team and its problems.

Some of us have been saying this back to the beginning of last season. Once I saw JH jawing with NJIT fans after that road win I figured we were in trouble. We have other "gonna get mine" players on this team and these types almost always kill a team. You never get a synergistic effect from these type guys.

Earlier this season Sendy commented how Pippen was like a sponge around JH, trying to play and do everything that JH does. It seems to have worked as I've seen Pippen take a number of ill-advised jumpers and commit far too many turnovers from simply trying to do too much. I think Pippen has a huge upside but he's got to be coached properly and not from a surrogate like JH.

I'm not at practice but I wonder how much this team respects Sendy? Question comes from watching how they often seem to ignore his direction. Maybe it's just kids today...

I remember the players "wanted" him as their coach-maybe there was a reason???? I'm not sure they play for him or maybe have the respect to play for him. They are recruited by the staff. I have seen the teams that he has coached and they never seem to play well at the end of the season or in the second half of the conference schedule.

I watched Akron play last night and they look like the best MAC team this year. I don't like Akron but Dambrot has consistently built the team year and year. They never seem to be in a rebuilding year. I remember when we were like that winning 20 games a year. I am not a coach or a geru on recruiting but the years we spent bringing in JC players and the turnover of players seems to have caught up with us.

I have said it before, I think that our physical talent is as good as any in the MAC. But to be blunt, it is hard to figure that our players can play as dumb as they do. All MAC players have flaws and we have plenty, but a good team learns how to play in a way that minimizes the situations that weaknesses get revealed. We seem to be working on using our weakness. That should be done during practice, not during a tight game.