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RE: What's wrong with having three NFL teams in LA?
(02-06-2017 08:02 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  It could be done but I think it'd be too much, too soon. LA just went two full decades without a team and for certain, unless they win big, the Chargers are gonna struggle to gain fans while the Rams may as well. While the Raiders are more popular than both in LA, it'd still be asking a lot to add a third team to the pot unless the Raiders moved to Anaheim or the IE, which is too poor to support much of anything. This isn't a situation like the Giants and Jets where they have been entrenched as local teams for over half a century, LA's teams haven't been stable that long nor is it as diehard as many other places.

Honestly, the best case scenario is the Raiders and Rams playing in LA and the Chargers in Southern Orange County. That's the only way the market could bare three teams, at least right now.

While I think your first sentence is too optimistic, I agree with the remainder of this post. Good assessment.

I think the Raiders moving to LA now might just kill the Chargers, or at least Spanos's ownership. A huge portion of the folks buying Chargers tickets will be local Raiders fans. You bring the Raiders in and those folks don't buy Chargers tix. Spanos is (or is about to be) highly leveraged to pay off the relocation fee and his cash flow will be crushed without very good attendance. At that point he might have to sell a portion or all of the team just to stay afloat.
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RE: What's wrong with having three NFL teams in LA?
LA itself can't support 3 teams but LA and the OC could. But it's asking way too much for it to go from 0 teams to 3 in only two or three years. It'd have to be 15 years or so to prove 2 could be supported. This is a region that lost two teams and didn't skip a beat, you'd be stupid to add a third given the history.
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RE: What's wrong with having three NFL teams in LA?
(02-06-2017 10:44 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  LA itself can't support 3 teams but LA and the OC could. But it's asking way too much for it to go from 0 teams to 3 in only two or three years. It'd have to be 15 years or so to prove 2 could be supported. This is a region that lost two teams and didn't skip a beat, you'd be stupid to add a third given the history.

The idea of putting the Chargers in South OC is an interesting one. Gives the SD fans a relatively short drive, and there's still a fair amount of open space to build a stadium down here. But with a low density and population of little more than half a million I doubt you could convince anyone to move a team here. The Rams really struggled in Anaheim (admittedly, in a terrible stadium and with a horrible owner). Look, the jury's still out on two NFL teams in the LA area. A third will have no chance until/unless Rams and Chargers (or Rams and Raiders, or whatever) can create their own sustainable fan bases.
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Agreed...
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RE: What's wrong with having three NFL teams in LA?
Sure, if Orange County decided to publicly finance an open-air, NFL quality, football stadium ... the Chargers could move to that.

Probably cost $750M-$1B. 8 NFL games most years, plus say a handful of other big events.


Max contribution by Spanos guessing like $200M.
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(02-07-2017 11:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, if Orange County decided to publicly finance an open-air, NFL quality, football stadium ...

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(02-07-2017 11:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, if Orange County decided to publicly finance an open-air, NFL quality, football stadium ... the Chargers could move to that.

Probably cost $750M-$1B. 8 NFL games most years, plus say a handful of other big events.


Max contribution by Spanos guessing like $200M.

The only chance would be if the Halos needed a new stadium and it could be shared with an NFL team, including with retractable/tapped off seating. That's not all that unrealistic, the Angels play in an old stadium.
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(02-07-2017 02:42 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 11:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, if Orange County decided to publicly finance an open-air, NFL quality, football stadium ... the Chargers could move to that.

Probably cost $750M-$1B. 8 NFL games most years, plus say a handful of other big events.


Max contribution by Spanos guessing like $200M.

The only chance would be if the Halos needed a new stadium and it could be shared with an NFL team, including with retractable/tapped off seating. That's not all that unrealistic, the Angels play in an old stadium.

WHAT?! There's a reason that Oakland is the only stadium with MLB and NFL tenants. The geometry just doesn't work. And further to the point - the Angels have already shared a stadium with a NFL team - it was a disaster. And I don't need to repeat the point about public funding...
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It was just hypothetical and not meant to be taken serious.
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RE: What's wrong with having three NFL teams in LA?
(02-07-2017 11:48 AM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(02-07-2017 11:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Sure, if Orange County decided to publicly finance an open-air, NFL quality, football stadium ...

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While I'm not suggesting that residents of OC aren't adverse to using public dollars to pay for public amenities, like stadiums, parks, trails, etc., the point was that no one would sink $750M-$1B of private investment into an open air football stadium that hosts eight NFL games and maybe a few other events per year.
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