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Did all of Daly's rookie of the week honors come in CAA play?
02-21-2017 11:10 AM
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(02-21-2017 11:10 AM)gacoug Wrote:  Did all of Daly's rookie of the week honors come in CAA play?

5 of Daly's 6 Rookie of the Week honors have come during CAA play.
02-21-2017 12:06 PM
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I'm examining the statistics, and it looks like I would give the small edge to Ryan Daly over Kurk Lee. But you can't rule out Lee for FOY.

Daly - 8th in scoring. 5th in rebounding, 12th in FG%, 10th in minutes
Lee - 9th in scoring, 13th in FG%, 4th in assists, 3rd in steals, 11th in minutes,
Riller - 17th in scoring, not even in the top 50 in rebounding, 4th in FT%, 49th in blocks, 16th in steals, 32nd in minutes/

Riller had a stronger supporting cast and less of an individual impact to the team. Daly and Lee basically had to carry their teams on their shoulders as freshman so FOY will likely be one of those 2.
02-26-2017 01:29 PM
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(02-26-2017 01:29 PM)J.B. Wrote:  I'm examining the statistics, and it looks like I would give the small edge to Ryan Daly over Kurk Lee. But you can't rule out Lee for FOY.

Daly - 8th in scoring. 5th in rebounding, 12th in FG%, 10th in minutes
Lee - 9th in scoring, 13th in FG%, 4th in assists, 3rd in steals, 11th in minutes,
Riller - 17th in scoring, not even in the top 50 in rebounding, 4th in FT%, 49th in blocks, 16th in steals, 32nd in minutes/

Riller had a stronger supporting cast and less of an individual impact to the team. Daly and Lee basically had to carry their teams on their shoulders as freshman so FOY will likely be one of those 2.

Disagree with that reasoning. Because Daly and Lee were their teams go to players they both shot over 100 more times than Riller. Yet in CAA play.Riller was ahead of Lee in scoring and 1.5 a game behind Daly. Rillers shooting percentages were higher than either of them
02-26-2017 01:47 PM
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(02-26-2017 01:47 PM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  
(02-26-2017 01:29 PM)J.B. Wrote:  I'm examining the statistics, and it looks like I would give the small edge to Ryan Daly over Kurk Lee. But you can't rule out Lee for FOY.

Daly - 8th in scoring. 5th in rebounding, 12th in FG%, 10th in minutes
Lee - 9th in scoring, 13th in FG%, 4th in assists, 3rd in steals, 11th in minutes,
Riller - 17th in scoring, not even in the top 50 in rebounding, 4th in FT%, 49th in blocks, 16th in steals, 32nd in minutes/

Riller had a stronger supporting cast and less of an individual impact to the team. Daly and Lee basically had to carry their teams on their shoulders as freshman so FOY will likely be one of those 2.

Disagree with that reasoning. Because Daly and Lee were their teams go to players they both shot over 100 more times than Riller. Yet in CAA play.Riller was ahead of Lee in scoring and 1.5 a game behind Daly. Rillers shooting percentages were higher than either of them

So you're saying that Riller deserves it because he's on a better team, even though he's played less and contributed less? I think that when you have 3 really good players in the running, you've got to give the edge to the ones who were more valuable to their own teams. Daly was clearly the best player on Delaware. Lee was the 1st or 2nd best player on Drexel. All 3 will be on the all-rookie team, but I still think they give the edge to Daly. Not sure who the other big rookies are in the CAA, but they might also put Kari "Iceman" Jonnson of Drexel on the rookie team as well, even with his late season injury.
02-27-2017 01:11 PM
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Riller is the more efficient player, sure, but that's what happens when you're not needed for a lot of volume on a quality squad.

When you're the only/best offensive threat, your efficiency numbers decline. Doesn't mean that hurts Daly or Lee's respective cases.
02-27-2017 02:42 PM
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Daly will get it not Riller. Just pointing out I do big think any player should be.penalized because of the team he plays on. You could have valid reasons for either of them. I also go by CAA stats and not full.season. Some teams played much weaker ooc than others and stats from those weaker teams inflated their stats
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02-27-2017 03:34 PM
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(02-27-2017 03:34 PM)swampcougar1 Wrote:  Some teams played much weaker ooc than others and stats from those weaker teams inflated their stats
Here are the top four scoring freshmen in all games sorted from hardest to easiest schedule:

College of Charleston (Riller): SOS 143th, OOC SOS 130th
Hofstra (Pemberton): SOS 147th, OOC SOS 159th
Delaware (Daly): SOS 190th, OOC SOS 305th
Drexel (Lee): SOS 210th, OOC SOS 324th

Daly and Lee's teams are close, and both of them have played a significantly easier schedule that Riller's team. Note that since you don't play yourself, the team with the best winning percentage in the conference will have the worst strength of schedule from conference games. Those have the same order in opposite directions. For example, if you take College of Charleston's two games against Delaware out of their SOS and replace it with College of Charleston having two games against themselves, their SOS would be farther ahead of Delaware and Drexel. If you take Delaware's two games against College of Charleston out of their SOS and replace it with Delaware having two games against themselves, their SOS would be worse.
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I don't understand what the above post is getting at.
02-28-2017 10:47 PM
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(02-28-2017 10:47 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  I don't understand what the above post is getting at.

No one does. EvanJ spends most of his time on this board talking to himself. I feel bad for the guy. The Hofstra team board must be desolate.
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