(02-03-2017 10:27 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:18 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:15 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 09:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  No, the responsible thing to do is to ignore the shirt and proceed with teaching Algebra.

I agree. Since there was no dress code against it?...She should have kept her yap shut.

Usually, political shirts are prohibited in public schools. And before you start throwing free speech rants, it's been upheld by the constitution.

It that's the case in that school then the kid should not have worn the shirt. Still does't give a pass to the idiotic teacher though.

I agree with you there. The teacher should not have confronted the student at all. They should have just walked them to the front office and let administration make that determination.

she is a teacher... that explains her stupidity.

(02-03-2017 10:18 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:16 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:15 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 09:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 09:42 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Then the responsible thing to do is open discussions up with the class without drawing attention to the boy wearing the shirt. This way each person with a different view gets to explain the WHY they believe a wall is or isn't the correct move.

Maybe they all learn something that changes the minds of a few. But the comment was not from his peers. It came from a adult trying to force her views on a child.

Surely you see the difference?

No, the responsible thing to do is to ignore the shirt and proceed with teaching Algebra.

I agree. Since there was no dress code against it?...She should have kept her yap shut.

Usually, political shirts are prohibited in public schools. And before you start throwing free speech rants, it's been upheld by the constitution.

Children indeed have limited rights of free speech as minors.

"Materially and Substantially interferes with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school"

Many administrators have attempted to hide non-material and non-substantial in that mix. Like banning the US flag as being "potentially disruptive".

(02-03-2017 10:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:11 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  The teacher was a threatening bully to this kid. Anyone making excuses for this teacher's actions is nuts. The teacher needs to be disciplined in the strongest manner, if not terminated.

I have not seen anyone here defend her actions. We might differ in the punishment..but..some level of action is appropriate.

Perhaps looking in a mirror will help you see someone defending this bully masquerading as a teacher.

(02-03-2017 10:21 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  First and foremost... we had something similar happen here in St. Louis this week.

A 12 year old was wearing a "MAGA" hat on his school bus... and then some other 12-14 year olds started with asking questions, and then it got into berating the kid.. until eventually someone took a punch at him.

I haven't seen the video yet (it's on facebook (which I avoid like the plague!) according to the radio hosts) and Mom claimed that the kid chose to wear the hat himself, and she didn't make him, and that the boy is indeed into political discussions at that age.

But, I had to ask myself WHY THE HELL ARE 11-14 year olds fighting over politics??? Shouldn't they be fighting over whether or not boy/girl XYZ likes their friend or not?

I guess you never multi-tasked at that age, because I did both. Minus the physical fighting.

(02-03-2017 11:19 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:21 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  First and foremost... we had something similar happen here in St. Louis this week.

A 12 year old was wearing a "MAGA" hat on his school bus... and then some other 12-14 year olds started with asking questions, and then it got into berating the kid.. until eventually someone took a punch at him.

I haven't seen the video yet (it's on facebook (which I avoid like the plague!) according to the radio hosts) and Mom claimed that the kid chose to wear the hat himself, and she didn't make him, and that the boy is indeed into political discussions at that age.

But, I had to ask myself WHY THE HELL ARE 11-14 year olds fighting over politics??? Shouldn't they be fighting over whether or not boy/girl XYZ likes their friend or not?

I guess you never multi-tasked at that age, because I did both. Minus the physical fighting.

I know at that age I didn't give a rat's a@s about politics. I'd bet it's driven by hyper political parents.

(02-03-2017 11:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:19 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:21 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  First and foremost... we had something similar happen here in St. Louis this week.

A 12 year old was wearing a "MAGA" hat on his school bus... and then some other 12-14 year olds started with asking questions, and then it got into berating the kid.. until eventually someone took a punch at him.

I haven't seen the video yet (it's on facebook (which I avoid like the plague!) according to the radio hosts) and Mom claimed that the kid chose to wear the hat himself, and she didn't make him, and that the boy is indeed into political discussions at that age.

But, I had to ask myself WHY THE HELL ARE 11-14 year olds fighting over politics??? Shouldn't they be fighting over whether or not boy/girl XYZ likes their friend or not?

I guess you never multi-tasked at that age, because I did both. Minus the physical fighting.

I know at that age I didn't give a rat's a@s about politics. I'd bet it's driven by hyper political parents.

My parents were not very political, hyper or otherwise. I multi-tasked at that age, and I'm fairly confident I'm not alone on that front.

(02-03-2017 11:28 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:19 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:21 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  First and foremost... we had something similar happen here in St. Louis this week.

A 12 year old was wearing a "MAGA" hat on his school bus... and then some other 12-14 year olds started with asking questions, and then it got into berating the kid.. until eventually someone took a punch at him.

I haven't seen the video yet (it's on facebook (which I avoid like the plague!) according to the radio hosts) and Mom claimed that the kid chose to wear the hat himself, and she didn't make him, and that the boy is indeed into political discussions at that age.

But, I had to ask myself WHY THE HELL ARE 11-14 year olds fighting over politics??? Shouldn't they be fighting over whether or not boy/girl XYZ likes their friend or not?

I guess you never multi-tasked at that age, because I did both. Minus the physical fighting.

I know at that age I didn't give a rat's a@s about politics. I'd bet it's driven by hyper political parents.

My parents were not very political, hyper or otherwise. I multi-tasked at that age, and I'm fairly confident I'm not alone on that front.

To each his own, but back in that day I multi-taksed between school, sports, and girls. I couldn't vote so didn't really give a crap about politics.

(02-03-2017 11:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  To each his own, but back in that day I multi-taksed between school, sports, and girls. I couldn't vote so didn't really give a crap about politics.

Exactly.. our votes were limited to "class clown", "most likely to succeed", etc. Not who was running things from the white house.

(02-03-2017 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  To each his own, but back in that day I multi-taksed between school, sports, and girls. I couldn't vote so didn't really give a crap about politics.

Exactly.. our votes were limited to "class clown", "most likely to succeed", etc. Not who was running things from the white house.

5th, 6th and 7th grade we talked about politics and our governors and senators. I remember class votes. Birch Bayh Sr. was Senator in Indiana. Again, just because you were apolitical doesn't mean every kid was the same as you at your age. Maybe you were the odd one!

(02-03-2017 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  To each his own, but back in that day I multi-taksed between school, sports, and girls. I couldn't vote so didn't really give a crap about politics.

Exactly.. our votes were limited to "class clown", "most likely to succeed", etc. Not who was running things from the white house.

It's like I'm talking Greek here or something.


When I was in school, I multi-tasked between school, sports, girls, and arguing about politics. Note the bolded word, oh condescending one(s)!!

In 4th grade I stuck a Republican sticker on the front of my desk. They forced me to remove it because it was a sticker...and not my desk. Not because it was Republican.

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(02-03-2017 12:12 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:32 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  To each his own, but back in that day I multi-taksed between school, sports, and girls. I couldn't vote so didn't really give a crap about politics.

Exactly.. our votes were limited to "class clown", "most likely to succeed", etc. Not who was running things from the white house.

It's like I'm talking Greek here or something.


When I was in school, I multi-tasked between school, sports, girls, and arguing about politics. Note the bolded word, oh condescending one(s)!!

Conn, we know what you are saying, but at that age, I'll be honest,some of us had had _zero_ interest in politics. (Once you hit high school, it changed of course.. or maybe 9th grade once civics started getting taught?)

(02-03-2017 11:15 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:11 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  The teacher was a threatening bully to this kid. Anyone making excuses for this teacher's actions is nuts. The teacher needs to be disciplined in the strongest manner, if not terminated.

I have not seen anyone here defend her actions. We might differ in the punishment..but..some level of action is appropriate.

Perhaps looking in a mirror will help you see someone defending this bully masquerading as a teacher.

I clearly stated she should be punished..but..you carry on with the mischaracterization.

(02-03-2017 10:15 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 02:54 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

So what do you do when it is a teacher bullying your son at school?

Quote:A Kennewick middle school teacher landed in hot water when she pulled aside a student wearing a “Build the Wall” shirt.

The language arts teacher at Chinook Middle School compared the shirt’s message with wearing a swastika.

Now, the young teen’s mother is hoping her son’s experience shines a light on political bullying.

“It does happen,” said Michelle Fischer. “I think (politics) should be taught in our schools, but only in a two-sided positive way.”

Fischer posted her outrage over the teacher’s handling of the issue on Facebook and the story went viral.

Conservative talk show host Sean Hannity shared her story to his 2.8 million followers, contributing to more than 100 comments on Fischer’s original post.

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local...04414.html

First of all, those kinds of shirts are prohibited in most schools.

Which is freaking ridiculous. Would a Ted Nugent shirt be banned? How about Katy Perry?

And FWIW, maybe it was a function of growing up about 10 miles from The Swamp DeeCee, but we talked a LOT of politics. First real slobber-knnocker I recall was in 5th grade, and yes we knew what we were talking about, relatively speaking.

(02-03-2017 11:28 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:19 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:21 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  First and foremost... we had something similar happen here in St. Louis this week.

A 12 year old was wearing a "MAGA" hat on his school bus... and then some other 12-14 year olds started with asking questions, and then it got into berating the kid.. until eventually someone took a punch at him.

I haven't seen the video yet (it's on facebook (which I avoid like the plague!) according to the radio hosts) and Mom claimed that the kid chose to wear the hat himself, and she didn't make him, and that the boy is indeed into political discussions at that age.

But, I had to ask myself WHY THE HELL ARE 11-14 year olds fighting over politics??? Shouldn't they be fighting over whether or not boy/girl XYZ likes their friend or not?

I guess you never multi-tasked at that age, because I did both. Minus the physical fighting.

I know at that age I didn't give a rat's a@s about politics. I'd bet it's driven by hyper political parents.

My parents were not very political, hyper or otherwise. I multi-tasked at that age, and I'm fairly confident I'm not alone on that front.

Well...You were the schit for sure.

(02-03-2017 11:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:28 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:19 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:21 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  First and foremost... we had something similar happen here in St. Louis this week.

A 12 year old was wearing a "MAGA" hat on his school bus... and then some other 12-14 year olds started with asking questions, and then it got into berating the kid.. until eventually someone took a punch at him.

I haven't seen the video yet (it's on facebook (which I avoid like the plague!) according to the radio hosts) and Mom claimed that the kid chose to wear the hat himself, and she didn't make him, and that the boy is indeed into political discussions at that age.

But, I had to ask myself WHY THE HELL ARE 11-14 year olds fighting over politics??? Shouldn't they be fighting over whether or not boy/girl XYZ likes their friend or not?

I guess you never multi-tasked at that age, because I did both. Minus the physical fighting.

I know at that age I didn't give a rat's a@s about politics. I'd bet it's driven by hyper political parents.

My parents were not very political, hyper or otherwise. I multi-tasked at that age, and I'm fairly confident I'm not alone on that front.

To each his own, but back in that day I multi-taksed between school, sports, and girls. I couldn't vote so didn't really give a crap about politics.

Exactly.... not at age 12 anyway. Maybe some by 16. I would say it is very uncommon for pre teen to be political. I can though see them getting caught up in the stuff their parents are preaching without having a clue as to WTF they are talking about. I expect this is the case here.

(02-03-2017 02:54 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

So what do you do when it is a teacher bullying your son at school?

Quote:A Kennewick middle school teacher landed in hot water when she pulled aside a student wearing a “Build the Wall” shirt.

The language arts teacher at Chinook Middle School compared the shirt’s message with wearing a swastika.

Now, the young teen’s mother is hoping her son’s experience shines a light on political bullying.

“It does happen,” said Michelle Fischer. “I think (politics) should be taught in our schools, but only in a two-sided positive way.”

Fischer posted her outrage over the teacher’s handling of the issue on Facebook and the story went viral.

Conservative talk show host Sean Hannity shared her story to his 2.8 million followers, contributing to more than 100 comments on Fischer’s original post.

http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local...04414.html

That is insane. BTW would the meaning have been the same when Obama and Hillary voted yes to build the ball in 2006?

(02-03-2017 01:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:15 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:11 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  The teacher was a threatening bully to this kid. Anyone making excuses for this teacher's actions is nuts. The teacher needs to be disciplined in the strongest manner, if not terminated.

I have not seen anyone here defend her actions. We might differ in the punishment..but..some level of action is appropriate.

Perhaps looking in a mirror will help you see someone defending this bully masquerading as a teacher.

I clearly stated she should be punished..but..you carry on with the mischaracterization.

Then you followed it up by placing more blame on the parents. Thus, absolving the teacher of blame, but....you carry on believing I hadn't read the entire thread.

(02-03-2017 01:37 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 01:11 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 11:15 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 10:11 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  The teacher was a threatening bully to this kid. Anyone making excuses for this teacher's actions is nuts. The teacher needs to be disciplined in the strongest manner, if not terminated.

I have not seen anyone here defend her actions. We might differ in the punishment..but..some level of action is appropriate.

Perhaps looking in a mirror will help you see someone defending this bully masquerading as a teacher.

I clearly stated she should be punished..but..you carry on with the mischaracterization.

Then you followed it up by placing more blame on the parents. Thus, absolving the teacher of blame, but....you carry on believing I hadn't read the entire thread.

All 3 need a swift kick in the ass IMO...the teacher and the parents. If you let your 12 old walk around in public wearing that unaccompanied? You are being irresponsible today in the current environment with his safety. That is undeniable. I guess if he got his ass kicked or worse by some pissed off illegals you could live with yourself? I bet not.

Back in October a teacher at a high school in Albuquerque asked his class who they supported for president. A girl said she supported Trump. Teacher made the student wait out in the hall for the rest of the period. Five days later that teacher participated in a protest in Downtown Albuquerque. The protest was about a hung jury in the Trial of 2 APD officers. Protestors blocked traffic. A vehicle was caught with protestors around. It was one of several vehicles that protestors had hit with theirs signs. All of it was caught on video by one of the local news stations. The teacher was clearly seen braking his sign on the truck. The teacher was arrested by Friday and placed on administrative leave.