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VCU for Basketball only?
I was wondering if y'all would be interested in VCU for the same thing y'all were talking about with Wichita St. It would expose the AAC to Virginia and a bigger metro.
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From an ECU fan perspective I would love for VCU Olympics to be in. Need more baseball.

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(02-02-2017 08:02 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  I was wondering if y'all would be interested in VCU for the same thing y'all were talking about with Wichita St. It would expose the AAC to Virginia and a bigger metro.

Hi... we've discussed VCU a lot on here. I'd like to think I am in the majority would like to have them.

But I think they are non-starter --- I don't know that we (AAC) are yet a stronger hoops league than the A-10. Thus I doubt VCU would consider deprating a much more geographic friendly b'ball based conference for us.

As opposed to Wichita State -- no knock on the Missouri Valley, but we can offer more hoops strength. Plus, in spelling Navy's spot in the West Division, they are a perfect geographical fit to have two six-team divisions for non-revenue sports. Plus a strong ninth baseball program.
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It's great in theory.
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Yes, please
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Big East for Basketball only?
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Yes, VCU, Dayton and Wichita State as non-football members. Army and Air Force for football only.
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(02-02-2017 10:26 AM)MemTGRS Wrote:  
(02-02-2017 08:02 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  I was wondering if y'all would be interested in VCU for the same thing y'all were talking about with Wichita St. It would expose the AAC to Virginia and a bigger metro.

Hi... we've discussed VCU a lot on here. I'd like to think I am in the majority would like to have them.

But I think they are non-starter --- I don't know that we (AAC) are yet a stronger hoops league than the A-10. Thus I doubt VCU would consider deprating a much more geographic friendly b'ball based conference for us.

As opposed to Wichita State -- no knock on the Missouri Valley, but we can offer more hoops strength. Plus, in spelling Navy's spot in the West Division, they are a perfect geographical fit to have two six-team divisions for non-revenue sports. Plus a strong ninth baseball program.

That's true THIS year... barely. The A-10 Is not exactly having a banner year themselves, either.

I think the ceiling for AAC programs is higher. UConn has won four of the past 18 national titles--tops in the nation. Memphis has been to multiple Final Fours and is about as popular locally as the city's own NBA franchise. Cincinnati is having another great year and is one of the dozen or so most reliable NCAA bids year-in-year-out. SKY is leveraging its location in Dallas to draw in impressive recruits. Temple is an NCAA team more often than not. UCF and Houston are improving under experienced coaches.

The A-10, meanwhile has more of an uphill battle. Fewer schools are "destination jobs," the way Memphis, UConn, or Cincy are. There is less exposure.

All that said, it still might be hard to pry VCU away. AAC may have better exposure, but it's questionable how much more the AAC would pay a non football school than the $400K/year the A-10 TV contract gives its members. Then there are A-10 exit fees and AAC entry fees to make such a move less enticing. It's not that the A-10, over the stretch of several years, is a better basketball league. It's that the AAC might not be able to offer enough to make a move worthwhile. Besides, the AAC has enough good programs. It just needs it's teams to have better luck (i.e., fewer injuries) and do better out of conference. Even without a VCU, or a Wichita State, the AAC may not be a top 2-3 league, but it should be competitive with the Pac-12, SEC, and some years the Big East.

Just my $0.02, from a guy whose basketball team hasn't made the NCAA' s since 2000.
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(02-02-2017 01:49 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Yes, VCU, Dayton and Wichita State as non-football members. Army and Air Force for football only.

Works for me or we could take St Louis instead of Dayton. No issues grabbing 3 basketball schools.
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(02-02-2017 02:13 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  No

No to any or no to a specific team?
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If the AAC were to add a basketball only school then I'd prefer Dayton, but that is because I'm biased. I still don't think VCU is a great add without Shaka Smart. Dayton's basketball history is much deeper than them.
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I am in favor of adding any team(s) that increases the per team payout to the conference.
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(02-02-2017 02:48 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I am in favor of adding any team(s) that increases the per team payout to the conference.

Doubtful there is one outside of getting a school that will win games in the NCAA tourney and bring units. Wichita St., VCU, and Dayton all have good runs in recent years.
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The American should only take; Army, Air Force, BYU and San Diego State. They should then move to pods.

Four Divisions of four teams each, (This is actually within the new NCAA laws in that, a conference must be divided into equal divisions and play a round-robin schedule within those divisions in order to have a championship game). As discussed in other threads, you'd play a nine game conference schedule. Playing the three members of your division and then two members of the other three divisions yearly.

North: Army, Navy, Temple and UConn.

East: USF, UCF, UC and ECU.

South: Houston, Memphis, SMU and Tulane.

West; SDSU, BYU, Air Force and Tulsa.

This would be a true P6 conference IMHO. 04-rock
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No. Big East X 2
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(02-02-2017 02:11 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(02-02-2017 01:49 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Yes, VCU, Dayton and Wichita State as non-football members. Army and Air Force for football only.

Works for me or we could take St Louis instead of Dayton. No issues grabbing 3 basketball schools.



F it...pad the inventory in anticipation of the new contract by adding vcu, Dayton, wsu, Gonzaga, St.Mary's for bball and the academies for football.
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(02-02-2017 03:52 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  The American should only take; Army, Air Force, BYU and San Diego State. They should then move to pods.

Four Divisions of four teams each, (This is actually within the new NCAA laws in that, a conference must be divided into equal divisions and play a round-robin schedule within those divisions in order to have a championship game). As discussed in other threads, you'd play a nine game conference schedule. Playing the three members of your division and then two members of the other three divisions yearly.

North: Army, Navy, Temple and UConn.

East: USF, UCF, UC and ECU.

South: Houston, Memphis, SMU and Tulane.

West; SDSU, BYU, Air Force and Tulsa.

This would be a true P6 conference IMHO. 04-rock


This would make sense and I would make BYU and SDSU all sports to help out bball. BYU prolly won't bite, though, so add BSU for football instead and SDSU all sports to balance out bball (and maybe add WSU and VCU for bball also).
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(02-02-2017 03:52 PM)Mestophalies Wrote:  The American should only take; Army, Air Force, BYU and San Diego State. They should then move to pods.

Four Divisions of four teams each, (This is actually within the new NCAA laws in that, a conference must be divided into equal divisions and play a round-robin schedule within those divisions in order to have a championship game). As discussed in other threads, you'd play a nine game conference schedule. Playing the three members of your division and then two members of the other three divisions yearly.

North: Army, Navy, Temple and UConn.

East: USF, UCF, UC and ECU.

South: Houston, Memphis, SMU and Tulane.

West; SDSU, BYU, Air Force and Tulsa.

This would be a true P6 conference IMHO. 04-rock

I'd be fine with this
Army and Navy can fb only so add VCU/Wichita St on hoops to balance them out.

16 football
16 hoops

Hoops
East
VCU
UC
UCONN
Temple
ECU
USF
UCF
Memphis

West
Wichita St
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
Houston
SDSU
BYU
AF
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(02-02-2017 02:13 PM)CincyBro Wrote:  No

lol why? What have we got to lose?
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