I don't see Ivy Football going away but I d see it potentially becoming more restrictive. They already play a 10 game schedule--I could see that dropping to 8 with 7 league games and one OOC match up against a Patriot or NEC team.

"Out of curiosity, was his admission contingent on an agreement to stay on the football team for ___ amount of time?

Because if he couldn't have gotten into Cornell without football interest (no idea if that's the case, just hypothesizing here), and knowing that Ivy's tend to provide the same financial aid to all students based on expected family contribution regardless of anything else, then he might of well just used football to get admitted and then immediately quit."

MplsBison: Admission is NOT contingent on playing football (or any sport) for ANY period of time. It's not worth diving into the nitty gritty of Ivy Admissions/recruiting but in a nutshell, being a recruited athlete can help you get in but you're admitted as a student, not an athlete. There is no binding relationship between you and your sport as all aid is need based financial aid with no athletic scholarships.

I have a few friends that got admitted to different Ivy's for sports and quit during their first week on campus. This is one of the reasons that the conference created the Academic Index. Every student that attends each school is assigned a number that is the sum of their class rank, gpa, and SAT or ACT score. Each school has an aggregate Academic Index score for their student population (they vary from school to school) and the students recruited for sports need to fit within 1 standard deviation of the broader student mean. The goal is to make sure that any student admitted for sports should be able to be successful.

(02-01-2017 10:17 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  This is a legitimate question. This year the conference got rid of tackling in practice: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/no...e-football
The Ivy League tends to be very liberal and is located in New England, where college football isn't seen as a big deal. As it is, the 8 schools only play 10 games a year in the FCS and are not eligible for the FCS playoffs, via their own decision. With the concerns of CTE on the horizon and a culture of pro football over college football, could you see the Ivy League canning football in the next decade?

Offseason overreaction thread number 53

(02-02-2017 08:45 AM)EmeryZach Wrote:  No way football ever leaves the Ivy. It's a huge deal at those schools. And recently the Ivy has been getting some of the best recruits in the FCS. If anything I see Ivy League football getting more popular. They have a lot of games on TV now too.

But not in the stands. Do you ever check attendance figures? Only Harvard-Yale normally draws more than 10,000.

(02-03-2017 05:30 PM)bgwisc Wrote:  The goal is to make sure that any student admitted for sports should be able to be successful.

I'm intimately familiar with the philosophy of the AI. I argued against the Patriot League using it, for years.


I'd be curious to know how many Ivy recruits are lost before even the first season, as using the team interest simply as a way to get admitted.

(02-03-2017 04:07 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I don't see Ivy Football going away but I d see it potentially becoming more restrictive. They already play a 10 game schedule--I could see that dropping to 8 with 7 league games and one OOC match up against a Patriot or NEC team.

I could see it get to the point where the Ivy schools only play each other and non-scholarship Georgetown.

(02-04-2017 11:16 AM)DCAbloob Wrote:  

(02-03-2017 04:07 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I don't see Ivy Football going away but I d see it potentially becoming more restrictive. They already play a 10 game schedule--I could see that dropping to 8 with 7 league games and one OOC match up against a Patriot or NEC team.

I could see it get to the point where the Ivy schools only play each other and non-scholarship Georgetown.

I don't think that the Ivy League schools will change. Why would they?

70% of the schedule is Ivy, and the remaining 3 games are typically against local schools w/ very strong academics. The money is irrelevant, and I don't think that the injuries will get any worse than they are right now. Why lose the tradition?

Put another way, why would Cornell want to boot Bucknell (played virtually every year) and Colgate (played virtually every year) from their schedule? And sure the 10th game rotates - at least in Cornell's case - but A) there are still very regular opponents (i.e. Wagner and Fordam), and is moving from 10 games to 9 really going to make a difference?