(02-05-2017 11:04 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(02-04-2017 12:13 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  FWIW, one of the posters on the Miami board said he talked to Chuck Martin's wife at the bowl game and she said they'd like to stay in Oxford while their kids (who are around middle school age) are still in school. That info may be as meaningful as much as a VHS player, but given how Chuck turned down jobs for much better programs and took a $200K pay cut to take over a winless Miami team with atrocious facilities instead, I'm hoping that he cares enough about the school to stay for a while. Given the pace we're on, he's gonna get a lot of interest over the course of the next few offseasons.

Coaches usually have to stay in the MAC until they win it.

The exception might be if they have a Top 25 season like Toledo's coach in 2005 or Urban Meyer back in 2003. Jim Grobe was .500 with the MAC and moved onto Wake Forest.

Uh, just looking at this decade we've had Al Golden, Darrell Hazell, Jerry Kill, Tim Beckman, and Matt Campbell leave without winning the MACC, some of which didn't even make it to Detroit. Winning it usually means a coach is on borrowed time, but it's not some catch-all rule.

(02-05-2017 11:04 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Coaches usually have to stay in the MAC until they win it.

The exception might be if they have a Top 25 season like Toledo's coach in 2005 or Urban Meyer back in 2003. Jim Grobe was .500 with the MAC and moved onto Wake Forest.

Not necessarily. Recent "exceptions" in the past decade: Hoke at BSU (though they won the division and were Top 25 for a while), Hazell at KSU (also won the division and were Top 25), and Beckman and Campbell at Toledo (neither won the division).

I'd argue more that coaches have to stay in the MAC until they can strike when the iron it hot, which can obviously vary from one situation to another.

(02-05-2017 12:32 PM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:04 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Coaches usually have to stay in the MAC until they win it.

The exception might be if they have a Top 25 season like Toledo's coach in 2005 or Urban Meyer back in 2003. Jim Grobe was .500 with the MAC and moved onto Wake Forest.

Not necessarily. Recent "exceptions" in the past decade: Hoke at BSU (though they won the division and were Top 25 for a while), Hazell at KSU (also won the division and were Top 25), and Beckman and Campbell at Toledo (neither won the division).

I'd argue more that coaches have to stay in the MAC until they can strike when the iron it hot, which can obviously vary from one situation to another.

Also, Meyer left BG after 2002. No bowl, no rating and no division or MAC championship. Brandon followed with two bowl winning seasons, ratings both years and a west division championship. He was later fired.

the vibe from some of those who follow Bobcat recruiting closely are of the opinion that this is Solich's best class yet. With that being said, because of how he recruits (filling gaps in an already established program) Ohio isn't going to turn heads using your standard rating system as measurement.

I guess it's not really a signing, but Akron RB Warren Ball received his 6th year of eligibility. Last season after transferring from OSU as a graduating senior, he got injured at Wisconsin and never saw action in MAC play.

thats big for them. he looked legit early

(02-05-2017 02:11 PM)Siborg Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 12:32 PM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:04 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Coaches usually have to stay in the MAC until they win it.

The exception might be if they have a Top 25 season like Toledo's coach in 2005 or Urban Meyer back in 2003. Jim Grobe was .500 with the MAC and moved onto Wake Forest.

Not necessarily. Recent "exceptions" in the past decade: Hoke at BSU (though they won the division and were Top 25 for a while), Hazell at KSU (also won the division and were Top 25), and Beckman and Campbell at Toledo (neither won the division).

I'd argue more that coaches have to stay in the MAC until they can strike when the iron it hot, which can obviously vary from one situation to another.

Also, Meyer left BG after 2002. No bowl, no rating and no division or MAC championship. Brandon followed with two bowl winning seasons, ratings both years and a west division championship. He was later fired.

If memory serves, Urban Meyer had Bowling Green ranked in the Top 25 during the 2002 season until they went down to Tampa and got stomped by South Florida. The team finished 9-3, but that was not good enough for a national ranking, a bowl game, or a division title.

(02-17-2017 03:44 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 02:11 PM)Siborg Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 12:32 PM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:04 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Coaches usually have to stay in the MAC until they win it.

The exception might be if they have a Top 25 season like Toledo's coach in 2005 or Urban Meyer back in 2003. Jim Grobe was .500 with the MAC and moved onto Wake Forest.

Not necessarily. Recent "exceptions" in the past decade: Hoke at BSU (though they won the division and were Top 25 for a while), Hazell at KSU (also won the division and were Top 25), and Beckman and Campbell at Toledo (neither won the division).

I'd argue more that coaches have to stay in the MAC until they can strike when the iron it hot, which can obviously vary from one situation to another.

Also, Meyer left BG after 2002. No bowl, no rating and no division or MAC championship. Brandon followed with two bowl winning seasons, ratings both years and a west division championship. He was later fired.

If memory serves, Urban Meyer had Bowling Green ranked in the Top 25 during the 2002 season until they went down to Tampa and got stomped by South Florida. The team finished 9-3, but that was not good enough for a national ranking, a bowl game, or a division title.

I believe you are correct. That was the year BG hosted college Gameday, right? Had a couple buddies who were at BG at the time and they still talk about that, lol.

(02-17-2017 05:39 PM)Wadszip Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 03:44 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 02:11 PM)Siborg Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 12:32 PM)The Colonel Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 11:04 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Coaches usually have to stay in the MAC until they win it.

The exception might be if they have a Top 25 season like Toledo's coach in 2005 or Urban Meyer back in 2003. Jim Grobe was .500 with the MAC and moved onto Wake Forest.

Not necessarily. Recent "exceptions" in the past decade: Hoke at BSU (though they won the division and were Top 25 for a while), Hazell at KSU (also won the division and were Top 25), and Beckman and Campbell at Toledo (neither won the division).

I'd argue more that coaches have to stay in the MAC until they can strike when the iron it hot, which can obviously vary from one situation to another.

Also, Meyer left BG after 2002. No bowl, no rating and no division or MAC championship. Brandon followed with two bowl winning seasons, ratings both years and a west division championship. He was later fired.

If memory serves, Urban Meyer had Bowling Green ranked in the Top 25 during the 2002 season until they went down to Tampa and got stomped by South Florida. The team finished 9-3, but that was not good enough for a national ranking, a bowl game, or a division title.

I believe you are correct. That was the year BG hosted college Gameday, right? Had a couple buddies who were at BG at the time and they still talk about that, lol.

No, that was the next year, 2003, when undefeated NIU played at BG. Both were in the top 20 at the time. Meyer was gone, but BG was ranked in the top 25 all year. Of course Miami ended up beating them twice and won a bowl game over Lousivillle and ended at at #10.

destroyed Louisville in the bowl

(02-18-2017 12:11 AM)DICK Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 05:39 PM)Wadszip Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 03:44 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 02:11 PM)Siborg Wrote:  

(02-05-2017 12:32 PM)The Colonel Wrote:  Not necessarily. Recent "exceptions" in the past decade: Hoke at BSU (though they won the division and were Top 25 for a while), Hazell at KSU (also won the division and were Top 25), and Beckman and Campbell at Toledo (neither won the division).

I'd argue more that coaches have to stay in the MAC until they can strike when the iron it hot, which can obviously vary from one situation to another.

Also, Meyer left BG after 2002. No bowl, no rating and no division or MAC championship. Brandon followed with two bowl winning seasons, ratings both years and a west division championship. He was later fired.

If memory serves, Urban Meyer had Bowling Green ranked in the Top 25 during the 2002 season until they went down to Tampa and got stomped by South Florida. The team finished 9-3, but that was not good enough for a national ranking, a bowl game, or a division title.

I believe you are correct. That was the year BG hosted college Gameday, right? Had a couple buddies who were at BG at the time and they still talk about that, lol.

No, that was the next year, 2003, when undefeated NIU played at BG. Both were in the top 20 at the time. Meyer was gone, but BG was ranked in the top 25 all year. Of course Miami ended up beating them twice and won a bowl game over Lousivillle and ended at at #10.

IMO, the 2003 season is the best BG season in my memory. 11-3, 3 losses to very good teams(Big Ben's Miami twice and defending national champs OSU 24-17). Beat Toledo, won the MAC West, beat a ranked Purdue and a ranked NIU(college Gameday), top 25 ranking and beat Northwestern in the old Motor City bowl. And to cap it off, we did not lose our coach.

The 2003 season was a great one.