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Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.
01-28-2017 10:00 PM
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.
Is this a new comment?
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
This is an example of trolling, with fake news

Dollar did not say what MJG says he did. What Dollar said about Cal Baptist joining and the WAC being past instability, and now attractive for schools to join again is,
" ... it's feather in our cap, the WAC's cap, to be able to add a team like Cal Baptist. And -you heard it here first- they are not going to be the last one."
interviewer: "oh yeah"
"no, they're not."

He talks about CBU starting at 7:21, the statement beyond starts around 8:45
https://www.facebook.com/GoSeattleU/vide...=2&theater
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
(01-28-2017 10:47 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This is an example of trolling, with fake news

Dollar did not say what MJG says he did. What Dollar said about Cal Baptist joining and the WAC being past instability, and now attractive for schools to join again is,
" ... it's feather in our cap, the WAC's cap, to be able to add a team like Cal Baptist. And -you heard it here first- they are not going to be the last one."
interviewer: "oh yeah"
"no, they're not."

He talks about CBU starting at 7:21, the statement beyond starts around 8:45
https://www.facebook.com/GoSeattleU/vide...=2&theater

Cameron Dollar says WAC expansion not finished

My fault I must have gotten the existing d1 from someone's comment or something. Thought it was a topic for this board which it is.With the WAC's footprint David st can list at least 150 schools. Current D1 probably only a few could fit. I got it from the WAC board
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
Still just a whole lot of speculation.
The WAC is improving, so becoming a more attractive conference to schools out West. But I think at this point still only attractive to D2 schools looking to move up. A long way to go for the WAC.
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
Take Oral Roberts, if you want them. Fine with me.

I doubt that's the case.


Could definitely see one of Cal Baptist's former DII conference mates wanting in on the party.
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IF true I can't imagine how the state of Oklahoma could improve themselves from a conference standpoint. ORU in the WAC, Little old Tulsa in the AAC. And a couple of p-5 schools. Amazing.
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Yes it is speculation but I could see one or a couple of the southeren Big Sky schools join to be able to greatly reduce non football travel or even drop football if they are tired of bleeding money and get there budgets further cut...
FCS football is largely a waste...
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
Dollar's statement was about the perception of the WAC, and that down the road -some unspecified time frame- the WAC "will" (he likes positive language, when the meaning is clearly "I believe will") have another school interested in moving up from D-II.

The WAC is now defined by its last adds: Cal Baptist, Grand Canyon, Utah Valley, Bakersfield, Rio Grande Valley. Look for similar schools, either non-pedigree (not Jesuit, not mainstream Protestant long established institutions) growing faith based schools, and local region State schools who are not selective, and all who don't play football.

Will an exception pop up here or there? Sure that happens with all conferences. Seattle (missteps, belong in WCC), UMKC (insanity from leadership), and NMSU (FBS Football) are orphans. UCSD should the Big West decide not to invite them may have to swallow their pride a bit and do a 5 to 10 year stint in the WAC to secure D-I status before the Big West eventually takes them - current WAC wet dream.

The WAC will be in a game of replacing departing schools with D-II move ups to try and stay at 8 for the next decade or so. Likely need two or three more in that time frame.
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.

And, where would Northern Colorado's football program go?
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
(01-29-2017 04:03 PM)lew240z Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.

And, where would Northern Colorado's football program go?

Not saying it will happen, but a logical landing place in that scenario would be the MVFC, which will have 11 members when North Dakota is added and could be interested in rounding out its membership at 12. Another option would be the non-scholarship Patriot League which could be a better fit for Northern Colorado given its small budget and limited fan support.
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
(01-29-2017 04:03 PM)lew240z Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.

And, where would Northern Colorado's football program go?

Stay in the Big Sky as a football-only member like UC Davis and Cal Poly. Both SUU and UNC should join the WAC while leaving football in the Big Sky, and the Big Sky adds Seattle U to make it an even 10 if it was up to me. Makes the most sense for the conferences and schools. But I'd still be okay with SU staying in a 12/11 school WAC (we will see if Chi State is in the conference after 2018)
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(01-29-2017 04:51 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  Both SUU and UNC should join the WAC while leaving football in the Big Sky

I can see why a Seattle fan would want other schools to make the foolish mistake of leaving a viable D-I conference for the WAC -- because that would possibly open up an opportunity for Seattle to get the heck out of the WAC.

But there's no good reason for any sane administrators to choose to take their school out of a viable D-I conference to join the WAC.
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
GCU completes their transition this year, so technically the WAC is adding an existing D1 school.
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So, this goes from a scoop to hyperbole now? That there may not be another program actually lined up, but there will be in the future?

If that's the case, it's hard to take it seriously. And hard to take all of this Summit-bashing seriously, too. Summit made Big Sky look like the Southland of the mountain states. We'd like to think the WAC is making this comeback story legit...Summit did it out of nowhere. WAC got upstaged.
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(01-29-2017 04:51 PM)SeattleVandals Wrote:  
(01-29-2017 04:03 PM)lew240z Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.

And, where would Northern Colorado's football program go?

Stay in the Big Sky as a football-only member like UC Davis and Cal Poly. Both SUU and UNC should join the WAC while leaving football in the Big Sky, and the Big Sky adds Seattle U to make it an even 10 if it was up to me. Makes the most sense for the conferences and schools. But I'd still be okay with SU staying in a 12/11 school WAC (we will see if Chi State is in the conference after 2018)
Take UNC, SUU, NAU, Sac St and Davis and Poly fb to the WAC and send UVU and Seattle to the Big Sky. One would have two regional conferences then and two FCS leagues that can have autobids and much lower travel.
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(01-29-2017 04:50 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(01-29-2017 04:03 PM)lew240z Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.

And, where would Northern Colorado's football program go?

Not saying it will happen, but a logical landing place in that scenario would be the MVFC, which will have 11 members when North Dakota is added and could be interested in rounding out its membership at 12. Another option would be the non-scholarship Patriot League which could be a better fit for Northern Colorado given its small budget and limited fan support.

Don't think UNC could get in the MVFC, but UND proved that wrong after being told no years ago.

UNC would be a great travel partner for Denver. SIUE could be a travel partner for W Illinois making the Slummit 12 members. The only poor travel partners then would be ORU and Omaha.
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(01-30-2017 03:04 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(01-29-2017 04:50 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(01-29-2017 04:03 PM)lew240z Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:00 PM)MJG Wrote:  My guess is it will be Oral Roberts urban school religious like CBU and GCU.

Next move after that could be Northern Colorado to the Summit.
Both moves would stabilize the conferences and reduce travel for all involved.

And, where would Northern Colorado's football program go?

Not saying it will happen, but a logical landing place in that scenario would be the MVFC, which will have 11 members when North Dakota is added and could be interested in rounding out its membership at 12. Another option would be the non-scholarship Patriot League which could be a better fit for Northern Colorado given its small budget and limited fan support.

Don't think UNC could get in the MVFC, but UND proved that wrong after being told no years ago.

UNC would be a great travel partner for Denver. SIUE could be a travel partner for W Illinois making the Slummit 12 members. The only poor travel partners then would be ORU and Omaha.

Oral Roberts would be a good travel partner for UMKC.

I could see some conference swaps for travel partner reasons.
FCS allowing football only and six for the minimum gives a lot of flexibility.
UNC is a great travel partner for Denver and Seattle and PSU.
ORU and UMKC make sense three conferences could lower travel costs.
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RE: Cameron Dollar says the WAC will add an existing D1 school
I don't think Oral leaves Summit for the WAC. At this point, Summit's reaching into Indiana and Denver. Tap into Texas, and this conference has a very healthy reach.
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(01-30-2017 11:30 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I don't think Oral leaves Summit for the WAC. At this point, Summit's reaching into Indiana and Denver. Tap into Texas, and this conference has a very healthy reach.

You are probably right the Summit travel just got a little better.
WAC fans claim travel is good because of so many big airports.
They would fit in with the private school's religious schools.
The schools being in mostly decent size cities like the WAC.
Tulsa to Kansas City is a reasonable drive for a travel partner.
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