(01-31-2017 04:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just heard the net EO from Trump is to expel all of the refugees. This would not help his image. It would turn his supporters against him if people see pictures of the kids with cerebral palsy get expel. We are a generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids.

Refugees get deported. Not all refugee programs are for permanent residency, like the Haitian program. All of the Haitians who came here after the earthquake there are supposed to return by Sep 2017. Commit a crime, high % that you get deported.

(01-31-2017 05:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 04:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just heard the net EO from Trump is to expel all of the refugees. This would not help his image. It would turn his supporters against him if people see pictures of the kids with cerebral palsy get expel. We are a generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids.

You keep repeating something that isn't even affected by this ban...

of course many of us would help and many of us will. But it will be 90 days. Not a lifetime, but 90 days before that happens. All of us feel bad for the down and out but lets get something correct so the next time you post about this girl with cerebral palsy.

She did not come to America from a war torn country that could not help her. She left that war torn country and made it to Germany before coming to America. Last time I checked...they have doctors there. They had meds there. They have just about everything we have in America. And she was in no danger if she stayed in Germany ....

well other than the ones from her own country coming into Germany posing as ...REFUGEES. Then killing as many as they can.

So tell me why did she not just stay in Germany? Why not go back there? Are they not.. "generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids" ?

I am not talking about her. I am talking about others that are here in the US that does have the illness. Do you really want to send them back if he does pass that EO? They could be victims to ISIS, and I will fight to keep them from becoming victims to those creeps.

(01-31-2017 05:29 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 05:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 04:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just heard the net EO from Trump is to expel all of the refugees. This would not help his image. It would turn his supporters against him if people see pictures of the kids with cerebral palsy get expel. We are a generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids.

You keep repeating something that isn't even affected by this ban...

of course many of us would help and many of us will. But it will be 90 days. Not a lifetime, but 90 days before that happens. All of us feel bad for the down and out but lets get something correct so the next time you post about this girl with cerebral palsy.

She did not come to America from a war torn country that could not help her. She left that war torn country and made it to Germany before coming to America. Last time I checked...they have doctors there. They had meds there. They have just about everything we have in America. And she was in no danger if she stayed in Germany ....

well other than the ones from her own country coming into Germany posing as ...REFUGEES. Then killing as many as they can.

So tell me why did she not just stay in Germany? Why not go back there? Are they not.. "generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids" ?

I am not talking about her. I am talking about others that are here in the US that does have the illness. Do you really want to send them back if he does pass that EO? They could be victims to ISIS, and I will fight to keep them from becoming victims to those creeps.

Let me run this past you. If you feel that strong about it....

Do you have a passport? if not it will take about 3 weeks to get one. After you get it buy a ticket for a plane ride over there and go fight the people that makes life so unsafe for these people you are willing to fight AMERICANS for.

(01-31-2017 06:04 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 05:29 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 05:05 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 04:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just heard the net EO from Trump is to expel all of the refugees. This would not help his image. It would turn his supporters against him if people see pictures of the kids with cerebral palsy get expel. We are a generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids.

You keep repeating something that isn't even affected by this ban...

of course many of us would help and many of us will. But it will be 90 days. Not a lifetime, but 90 days before that happens. All of us feel bad for the down and out but lets get something correct so the next time you post about this girl with cerebral palsy.

She did not come to America from a war torn country that could not help her. She left that war torn country and made it to Germany before coming to America. Last time I checked...they have doctors there. They had meds there. They have just about everything we have in America. And she was in no danger if she stayed in Germany ....

well other than the ones from her own country coming into Germany posing as ...REFUGEES. Then killing as many as they can.

So tell me why did she not just stay in Germany? Why not go back there? Are they not.. "generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids" ?

I am not talking about her. I am talking about others that are here in the US that does have the illness. Do you really want to send them back if he does pass that EO? They could be victims to ISIS, and I will fight to keep them from becoming victims to those creeps.

Let me run this past you. If you feel that strong about it....

Do you have a passport? if not it will take about 3 weeks to get one. After you get it buy a ticket for a plane ride over there and go fight the people that makes life so unsafe for these people you are willing to fight AMERICANS for.

BOOM!


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(01-30-2017 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:57 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:50 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  You know I get what Trump is trying to do but this was poorly planned and causing way to much chaos. Iran just issued a ban on U.S. citizens with other countries soon to follow.

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But it's not just that. We are fighting a war on terror with allies and they have carried the brunt of the refugees that are fleeing these ware torn countries.

How are they going to react when we are asking them to help us fight the war on terror but we aren't willing to help them protect the refugees.

And take note of how many problems those refugees and 'refugees' (yes, there are two classes) have caused, Fit.

I'm sorry, but without proper vetting those countries have caused their own issues with this. You cannot ask the US to step in and help in this case.

(02-01-2017 09:11 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:57 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:50 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  You know I get what Trump is trying to do but this was poorly planned and causing way to much chaos. Iran just issued a ban on U.S. citizens with other countries soon to follow.

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But it's not just that. We are fighting a war on terror with allies and they have carried the brunt of the refugees that are fleeing these ware torn countries.

How are they going to react when we are asking them to help us fight the war on terror but we aren't willing to help them protect the refugees.

And take note of how many problems those refugees and 'refugees' (yes, there are two classes) have caused, Fit.

I'm sorry, but without proper vetting those countries have caused their own issues with this. You cannot ask the US to step in and help in this case.

We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 09:11 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:57 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:50 PM)pcm0103 Wrote:  You know I get what Trump is trying to do but this was poorly planned and causing way to much chaos. Iran just issued a ban on U.S. citizens with other countries soon to follow.

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But it's not just that. We are fighting a war on terror with allies and they have carried the brunt of the refugees that are fleeing these ware torn countries.

How are they going to react when we are asking them to help us fight the war on terror but we aren't willing to help them protect the refugees.

And take note of how many problems those refugees and 'refugees' (yes, there are two classes) have caused, Fit.

I'm sorry, but without proper vetting those countries have caused their own issues with this. You cannot ask the US to step in and help in this case.

We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

(01-31-2017 04:50 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just heard the net EO from Trump is to expel all of the refugees. This would not help his image. It would turn his supporters against him if people see pictures of the kids with cerebral palsy get expel. We are a generous and helpful country, and many of us would help even these kids.

Why don't you do something then instead of complain about it on the internet?

You have a few dollars in your pocket right? You have some spare time right?

Do something.

As for others, some of us concerns outside how you feel about it or your mischaracterization of the rest of us.

(02-01-2017 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 09:11 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(01-28-2017 04:57 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

But it's not just that. We are fighting a war on terror with allies and they have carried the brunt of the refugees that are fleeing these ware torn countries.

How are they going to react when we are asking them to help us fight the war on terror but we aren't willing to help them protect the refugees.

And take note of how many problems those refugees and 'refugees' (yes, there are two classes) have caused, Fit.

I'm sorry, but without proper vetting those countries have caused their own issues with this. You cannot ask the US to step in and help in this case.

We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

No system is 100%. But we shouldn't change who we are because of what one person might do. That is exactly what the terrorists want.

(02-01-2017 12:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 09:11 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(01-30-2017 01:08 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  But it's not just that. We are fighting a war on terror with allies and they have carried the brunt of the refugees that are fleeing these ware torn countries.

How are they going to react when we are asking them to help us fight the war on terror but we aren't willing to help them protect the refugees.

And take note of how many problems those refugees and 'refugees' (yes, there are two classes) have caused, Fit.

I'm sorry, but without proper vetting those countries have caused their own issues with this. You cannot ask the US to step in and help in this case.

We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

No system is 100%. But we shouldn't change who we are because of what one person might do. That is exactly what the terrorists want.

No you are wrong, again. The terrorists wants us to keep all borders open with little control or vetting.

That way they can come in, just as they have other countries and try to kill us. You are also wrong in saying (another post) that these people go through TWO YEARS of vetting. If that is the case and these people are in danger of losing their life...

how did the make it 2 long years and can't another 90 days?

(02-01-2017 12:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 09:11 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  And take note of how many problems those refugees and 'refugees' (yes, there are two classes) have caused, Fit.

I'm sorry, but without proper vetting those countries have caused their own issues with this. You cannot ask the US to step in and help in this case.

We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

No system is 100%. But we shouldn't change who we are because of what one person might do. That is exactly what the terrorists want.

No you are wrong, again. The terrorists wants us to keep all borders open with little control or vetting.

That way they can come in, just as they have other countries and try to kill us. You are also wrong in saying (another post) that these people go through TWO YEARS of vetting. If that is the case and these people are in danger of losing their life...

how did the make it 2 long years and can't another 90 days?

No. The terrorists want us to be fearful enough to change our country.

Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "


Trump and his supporters are playing right into their hands.

(02-01-2017 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

No system is 100%. But we shouldn't change who we are because of what one person might do. That is exactly what the terrorists want.

No you are wrong, again. The terrorists wants us to keep all borders open with little control or vetting.

That way they can come in, just as they have other countries and try to kill us. You are also wrong in saying (another post) that these people go through TWO YEARS of vetting. If that is the case and these people are in danger of losing their life...

how did the make it 2 long years and can't another 90 days?

No. The terrorists want us to be fearful enough to change our country.

Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "


Trump and his supporters are playing right into their hands.

The country changed on 9/11.

(02-01-2017 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

No system is 100%. But we shouldn't change who we are because of what one person might do. That is exactly what the terrorists want.

No you are wrong, again. The terrorists wants us to keep all borders open with little control or vetting.

That way they can come in, just as they have other countries and try to kill us. You are also wrong in saying (another post) that these people go through TWO YEARS of vetting. If that is the case and these people are in danger of losing their life...

how did the make it 2 long years and can't another 90 days?

No. The terrorists want us to be fearful enough to change our country.

Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "


Trump and his supporters are playing right into their hands.

I would point out that we are not giving up any freedoms by barring foreigners from certain countries from entering the United States. Doesn't effect us citizens at all.

(02-01-2017 12:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:18 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:02 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:51 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:29 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  We have a much better vetting system than the EU. They let anybody in without asking questions, and their open borders. We don't really have open borders for everybody to roam free. Yes, we do have people sneaking in, but we do patrol the borders not like Europe.

A much better vetting system? Does that mean we dont killed as much?

Sorry, not good enough.

No system is 100%. But we shouldn't change who we are because of what one person might do. That is exactly what the terrorists want.

No you are wrong, again. The terrorists wants us to keep all borders open with little control or vetting.

That way they can come in, just as they have other countries and try to kill us. You are also wrong in saying (another post) that these people go through TWO YEARS of vetting. If that is the case and these people are in danger of losing their life...

how did the make it 2 long years and can't another 90 days?

No. The terrorists want us to be fearful enough to change our country.

Franklin
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. "


Trump and his supporters are playing right into their hands.

The world has changed but lets get something correct....

he's talking about American Citizens giving up their rights. I agree with that and why I did not like the patriot bill. But in this case we are PROTECTING our rights as Americans to be safe. ....

90 days for those people from the 7 countries to wait . 90 DAYS and no US Citizen will be given up their rights to enter.