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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
I seem to be the only one who thinks this but I think costs saving are coming.
The G5 and FCS are both under a lot of pressure and so are the schools.
It could be a reduction in the number of scholarships that are required.
Or less sports required or something else.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-28-2017 10:26 PM)MJG Wrote:  I seem to be the only one who thinks this but I think costs saving are coming.
The G5 and FCS are both under a lot of pressure and so are the schools.
It could be a reduction in the number of scholarships that are required.
Or less sports required or something else.

you are not the only one. Many ADs are talking about how the costs continue to rise and they running out of ways to creatively cut. Many programs are at the minimum number of sports to remain eligible for FBS or for D-I or for D-II. The Alaska (UAA and UAF) programs are even threatening to fall below the 10 minimum for D-II with pending cuts.

Costs are definitely the focus of this.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-28-2017 11:46 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(01-28-2017 10:26 PM)MJG Wrote:  I seem to be the only one who thinks this but I think costs saving are coming.
The G5 and FCS are both under a lot of pressure and so are the schools.
It could be a reduction in the number of scholarships that are required.
Or less sports required or something else.

you are not the only one. Many ADs are talking about how the costs continue to rise and they running out of ways to creatively cut. Many programs are at the minimum number of sports to remain eligible for FBS or for D-I or for D-II. The Alaska (UAA and UAF) programs are even threatening to fall below the 10 minimum for D-II with pending cuts.

Costs are definitely the focus of this.


With D2 schools being invited to D1 meetings in recent years tells me that there could be some relaxing of the rules to allow more schools to come up from D2. Maybe without a conference invites at first, but schools in areas that could be used. Maybe Azusa Pacific could get a waiver to move up at the same time with Cal. Baptist? Dixie State could be a good partner with Southern Utah in the future and so forth. I do think there could be some major shifts that D1 conferences could go more regional in structure. Lokke at the GAC in D2? Arkansas and Oklahoma schools make up the 12 member conferences for saving money.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-28-2017 12:08 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  UMass is a possibility if they don't get an AAC invite. I'm not sure how long they can survive as an independent and they have no desire moving their basketball team to C-USA/MAC/Sun Belt.
UMass football supporter bought out the approx 1 Million for Charlie Molnar and staff. Above budgeted Football money, 1/2 Million, was used to buyout Hockey and WBB coaches last year. Indy is not a great situation, but we certainly can be OK through 2020. Every year closer things get more heated. Gridiron donations are up and don't see anything pointing an end to football.

Imagine if we started the year 3-0. I'm wearing my maroon glasses and physched for tomorrow for NLI and one more thing.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-28-2017 10:26 PM)MJG Wrote:  I seem to be the only one who thinks this but I think costs saving are coming.
The G5 and FCS are both under a lot of pressure and so are the schools.
It could be a reduction in the number of scholarships that are required.
Or less sports required or something else.

I agree. I believe we need a division between FCS and FBS for schools who have AD budgets in the 20's - 40's. There are plenty of FCS schools in Montana and the Dakotas who belong in that division as do most of the g-5.

It's ridiculous that we have schools with AD budgets in the 20's trying to compete in teh same division as schools with 180 million $ AD budgets.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
The cost of doing business in the northeast makes football a bit of a tricky thing. UMass isn't one I consider...they came to the decision to go to FBS after what seemed like infinity to upgrade. It was definitely a long time coming, even if not fully or well scouted.

I think Rhode Island's gone if something ever happens to CAAF. They hardly put into FCS...they simply just don't need it.

I think there's still a chance a MAC school drops it. We all look at EMU, but I think it could come from Ohio (eyes on you, Akron, Kent State and Bowling Green). It's not that either shouldn't field it...more like the schools' missions and whether it catches up to them in terms of funding lines. It's tough at the non-research intensive universities, and in Ohio, I suspect it's especially tough, given how the Buckeyes seem to take everything.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
I would guess one of the Northeastern FCS schools will be next. Football is simply declining in popularity in that region (other than the NFL level). In the past 2 decades Boston University (1997), Northeastern (2009), and Hofstra (2009) all dropped football.

I don't know which school in particular is struggling, but there's some tiny schools in the Northeast Conference. Mt St Mary's (MD), Wagner (NY), St Francis (PA), St Francis (NY) all have under 3,000 students and under $85 million endowments. Bryant is a geographic outlier (in Rhode Island) and has only 3,500 students. I wouldn't be surprised if any of those dropped football.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-31-2017 02:10 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I think Rhode Island's gone if something ever happens to CAAF. They hardly put into FCS...they simply just don't need it.

URI was ready to go to the NEC for football until CAAF added Albany and Stony Brook. But they're not competitive and probably won't be for some time if ever, so it wouldn't shock me if they gave the NEC another look, or possibly the Pioneer. But they'd probably still keep some semblance of a program going. Dropping a major sport, even if it's not a particularly successful or popular one, gets you a lot of negative pub.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-31-2017 02:42 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  I would guess one of the Northeastern FCS schools will be next. Football is simply declining in popularity in that region (other than the NFL level). In the past 2 decades Boston University (1997), Northeastern (2009), and Hofstra (2009) all dropped football.

I don't know which school in particular is struggling, but there's some tiny schools in the Northeast Conference. Mt St Mary's (MD), Wagner (NY), St Francis (PA), St Francis (NY) all have under 3,000 students and under $85 million endowments. Bryant is a geographic outlier (in Rhode Island) and has only 3,500 students. I wouldn't be surprised if any of those dropped football.

It wouldn't be a bad idea for the NEC to give up the notion of scholarship football and become non-scholarship like the Pioneer. In the process I think they could could pick up an extra member in Marist.
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RE: Which FBS or FCS schools will be the next to drop football?
(01-31-2017 02:10 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I think there's still a chance a MAC school drops it. We all look at EMU, but I think it could come from Ohio (eyes on you, Akron, Kent State and Bowling Green). It's not that either shouldn't field it...more like the schools' missions and whether it catches up to them in terms of funding lines.
I'm not seeing how Kent State drops it. Kent State is close to fully endowing all of their athletic scholarships, and has 10K enrollment in their 7 regional branch campuses on top of their 30K at the main campus, so it doesn't seem like it is going to be "force to" drop it if it doesn't want to, and without a compelling BBall conference upgrade on offer, it doesn't seem like it will want to.
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