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RE: Chicago State Death Spiral
3,255 is a good solid number for the NAIA. It would be one of the bigger schools. There are a number of state schools this size (and smaller) in the NAIA. If they were to join, they would be able to cut their budget even more because of lower administrative and travel costs, and their teams would be more competitive. This might result in more on campus and alumni enthusiasm for their athletics program even if it's at a different level. No one likes going to watch your team lose. And CSU has some history in the NAIA. I remember they beat my alma mater in the '84 tournament. They will have some alumni with good memories of the NAIA.

That said, I am still skeptical they can join. There are danger signs that would need to be checked out, to make sure they're running a sound athletic program. And I think their accreditation has to be in good standing. I see this at the CSU web site: "As of June 30, 2016, Chicago State University has been placed on the sanction of Notice by the Higher Learning Commission because of concerns related to financial resources necessary to support institutional operations and educational programs and related to institutional planning."
02-28-2017 05:08 PM
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RE: Chicago State Death Spiral
Some updates on the maintenance problems at Chicago State, and the lack of transparency in Mr. Lucy's interim presidency.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...story.html

$1.2m for a temporary fix, still need to spend $3.5 for the boilers. $59m in needed maintenance. The new board members are already beginning to show they want better answers than the BS given.

The three holdover trustees are minister, a bible study ex-prof, and a corrupt businesswoman (Zoller's SafeSpeed crony company is a textbook example of how connections are used to funnel money to political insiders) are hardly models of what a board for a public school should have serving. It will be interesting to see if the newcomers can force Marshall Hatch to give up his chairmanship, as they want to name Vallas Chair immediately. Rauner pretty much called for that on January 17th. According to rules hatch would serve to December, but the reverend clearly does not enjoy the consent of the majority of the board. The Chair sets agenda, and that is why it's important.
03-03-2017 05:28 PM
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The budget impasse now hitting previously successful Governors State. But unlike CSU they have laid out measures that include trimming low enrollment majors to keep focus. Bad situation, and I wish both sides would come off their wont budge positions and cut the differences. A lot of things will get cut when they finally have a budget -- there is not enough money to pay for all things, but to date there is a reluctance to kill off any programs, so everyone is underfunded.

Anyway, no Chicago State financial collapse is complete without a fuller perspective of entire State
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...story.html
03-08-2017 04:55 PM
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Carnage at Governors State is 20 programs cut and 15% increase in tuition. Keep in mind Governors has been successfully financially managed (school accumulated rainy day funds years ago) and had been trending upwards. Hopefully that's not an indication worse is to come at Chicago State.
03-10-2017 05:43 PM
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Fall 2017 likely to see enrollment drop to 3000

http://csufacultyvoice.blogspot.com/2017...folks.html

In the above commentary report on Robert Bionaz's faculty blog (no name attributed), Fall 2017 applications are standing at 2600, compared to over 7000 in 2014 and 2015. Given the CSU yield rate is generally around 10% that would be even lower than the 296 (86) Freshmen they got this year. When applying the graduation and drop out rates, the Fall figure he arrives at is 3029. That would be a decline of 18% from the Fall 2016 number.

I arrive at a slightly lower number because I calculate 35 fewer students coming in, but late applications may increase that. So I think the estimate is a pretty good one. Not done in the article, but if you calculate the usual mid-year graduations and exits, by the time Basketball season rolls around next year, the total school population will likely be around 2750, and 1,000 of those will be grad students.

The application numbers should put to bed the "rapid" turn around notions for staying in D1. More realistic, the new board flushes house successfully, and then two years from now the numbers stop declining. To halt the decline both the number of applicants and the yield rates have to increase significantly, almost double.
03-10-2017 06:10 PM
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this could be good news, Vallas may be installed as interim President
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local...story.html

The Watson holdouts are trying a last ditch effort to hang on, keep Lucy. Hopefully they fail and CSU begins the long road to recovery.
03-27-2017 02:52 AM
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This is getting silly. Chicago State did not pay it's bills for the online homework and assignment system. Students cannot turn in homework. csufacultyvoice.blogspot.com/2017/03/we-dont-pay-22000-bill-for-turnitin.html

Also an audit just showed the school has mishandled a whopping $51m in federal funds
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/csu...al-awards/
03-31-2017 03:33 PM
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(03-31-2017 03:33 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This is getting silly. Chicago State did not pay it's bills for the online homework and assignment system. Students cannot turn in homework. csufacultyvoice.blogspot.com/2017/03/we-dont-pay-22000-bill-for-turnitin.html

Also an audit just showed the school has mishandled a whopping $51m in federal funds
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/csu...al-awards/

They need leadership. Someone to make hard choices.
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(03-31-2017 03:33 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This is getting silly. Chicago State did not pay it's bills for the online homework and assignment system. Students cannot turn in homework. csufacultyvoice.blogspot.com/2017/03/we-dont-pay-22000-bill-for-turnitin.html

Also an audit just showed the school has mishandled a whopping $51m in federal funds
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/csu...al-awards/
No work=no credit=no reason to attend.

Yah, weird, needs to be fixed FAST.

Currently mobile....but not necessarily upwardly.
03-31-2017 04:30 PM
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(03-31-2017 04:30 PM)RunnerBall Wrote:  
(03-31-2017 03:33 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  This is getting silly. Chicago State did not pay it's bills for the online homework and assignment system. Students cannot turn in homework. csufacultyvoice.blogspot.com/2017/03/we-dont-pay-22000-bill-for-turnitin.html

Also an audit just showed the school has mishandled a whopping $51m in federal funds
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/csu...al-awards/
No work=no credit=no reason to attend.

Yah, weird, needs to be fixed FAST.

Currently mobile....but not necessarily upwardly.

The 2018 vote cant come soon enough. For the good of students and the school please stop this D1 insistence and go NAIA or shut down athletics for a little. Focus on whats most important. The WAC needs to stop enabling this foolishness
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