http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/20/it...ding-rate/

I think we need to do away with conferences and divisions. Even power conferences schools are bleeding cash big time. Lets do away with D1 FBS/FCS and merge half the D2 into D1. Large public schools over 10,000 will be grandfather into D1 and large private schools over 7500 as well. Plus the top schools in sports can move up. Combine the rest of D2 and D3 and add any of the NAIA, NCCAA and USCAA schools into one as well.

Instead of having conferences for football? Why not make them into regions?

Northwest
Southwest
North Plains
South Plains
Midwest
Gulf Coast (east Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, southern Missouri, west Tennessee and Mississippi)
Southeast
Mid Atlantic
NorthEast

As it is, only a few schools in the P5 are only making even. This type of story I seen around 2008 and 2009 that some schools from the PAC 12, Tulane, Vanderbilt and some others were seriously thinking of dropping football. California dropped baseball at one time, but got a backlash were money was raised which saved the program. This is an issue that FCOA and other issues are putting these schools like California go deeper in the hole. This is why I am seeing changes were more G5 schools will be added to P5 status. a few more conferences could also be added as a power conference for all sports like the Big East. I could see MVFC could become a new conference at the FBS level which could be a very strong conference for football, basketball, baseball and other sports. MWC and AAC would be added a power conference for football. And this is one of the reasons why D2 schools had reps in recent years attending to D1 school meetings.

If we want to save college sports? The power 5 conferences needs to change their snobbiness of trying to be separated to be more inclusive as a matter of survival of all the sports.

Why...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

California could drop football to save money. It is an issue. The PAC 12 Network is not working out. Schools are losing money, and it all have to reform.

(01-26-2017 07:47 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

California could drop football to save money. It is an issue. The PAC 12 Network is not working out. Schools are losing money, and it all have to reform.

Quote:The athletic department’s fiscal woes are rooted in the debt service payment on the Memorial Stadium and Simpson Training Center projects, which cost approximately $460 million (combined).

Dropping football doesn't save Cal any money. They can't get a refund on the stadium. It's built, it has to be paid for no matter what. So dropping football doesn't save Cal any money.

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to forgive David. This is how it's done on the Planet Melmac, and he is nostalgic for home.

Because of the NCAA lost in the Supreme Court in 1984 ruling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_v._Bo...f_Oklahoma

P5 learned from the BCS is all you have to give the appearance everyone has a shot. Ironically, the Penn State getting left out probably strengthened their fairness argument and hurt the G5 even worse. No playoff spots are set aside for a conference champion, and now two P5 Champions were left out for four spots.

DavidSt is a modern-day Messiah. A true trail blazer.

(01-26-2017 12:38 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/20/it...ding-rate/

I think we need to do away with conferences and divisions. Even power conferences schools are bleeding cash big time. Lets do away with D1 FBS/FCS and merge half the D2 into D1. Large public schools over 10,000 will be grandfather into D1 and large private schools over 7500 as well. Plus the top schools in sports can move up. Combine the rest of D2 and D3 and add any of the NAIA, NCCAA and USCAA schools into one as well.

Instead of having conferences for football? Why not make them into regions?

Northwest
Southwest
North Plains
South Plains
Midwest
Gulf Coast (east Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, southern Missouri, west Tennessee and Mississippi)
Southeast
Mid Atlantic
NorthEast

As it is, only a few schools in the P5 are only making even. This type of story I seen around 2008 and 2009 that some schools from the PAC 12, Tulane, Vanderbilt and some others were seriously thinking of dropping football. California dropped baseball at one time, but got a backlash were money was raised which saved the program. This is an issue that FCOA and other issues are putting these schools like California go deeper in the hole. This is why I am seeing changes were more G5 schools will be added to P5 status. a few more conferences could also be added as a power conference for all sports like the Big East. I could see MVFC could become a new conference at the FBS level which could be a very strong conference for football, basketball, baseball and other sports. MWC and AAC would be added a power conference for football. And this is one of the reasons why D2 schools had reps in recent years attending to D1 school meetings.

If we want to save college sports? The power 5 conferences needs to change their snobbiness of trying to be separated to be more inclusive as a matter of survival of all the sports.

I am with you on the bolded part.

Now, just snap your fingers and make it so !!!!

Good times.

(01-26-2017 09:15 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to forgive David. This is how it's done on the Planet Melmac, and he is nostalgic for home.

Does he enjoy tabby pot pies before his bedtime?

Pesky freedom of association thing

Quote:The freedom of association simply means that a person has the right to associate, not with whomever he chooses, but with whoever is willing to associate with him. Inherent in the right to associate is the right not to associate. Any person has the right not to associate with whomever he chooses.

But hey good luck with that

What exactly does changing the name from "conference" to "region" accomplish?

None of this will keep schools from making bad financial decisions. Live within your means.

Speaking of bad financial decisions, let's cut the one sport that generates 80% of the sports revenue. We all know sports programs have no impact on other donations to the school either.

(01-26-2017 08:17 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  What exactly does changing the name from "conference" to "region" accomplish?

None of this will keep schools from making bad financial decisions. Live within your means.

Speaking of bad financial decisions, let's cut the one sport that generates 80% of the sports revenue. We all know sports programs have no impact on other donations to the school either.

Many schools cut football which was not the issue. It is all those sports that does not make money like most of the women sports. But, since the private schools are exempt to follow the Title 9 rules, the public's have to. So, you need to do something. As it is, we do not have enough schools in certain areas at the D1 level. California is a large state, and many areas are bare of any D1 teams. Same with Washington and Oregon. Big Sky would be better off as an FBS conference. Same with creating a central plains conference. West Texas is bare as well.

(01-26-2017 07:47 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-26-2017 12:51 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  Why...WHY!!!!!!!!!!!

California could drop football to save money. It is an issue. The PAC 12 Network is not working out. Schools are losing money, and it all have to reform.

Cal is broke, as is much of he PAC trying to keep up in the arms race with schools who have much more generous donors.

The PAC network has not worked out and it essentially an exposure tool at this point, not a source of tens of millions of dollars for each school like other conference networks are.
http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/pac-12-n...rectv.html

The PAC has to do somethign but I don't think we will see "regions" aside from regional channels on a PACN like they currently have.

Pac-12 Network: Live events from all 12 universities including 35 football games, 100+ men’s basketball games, Pac-12 Championship events, more than 300 live Olympic sport events and original content such as Pac-12 Sports Report and The Drive: Pac-12 Football.

Pac-12 Arizona: Live events featuring University of Arizona and Arizona State University coverage in football, men’s & women’s basketball and Olympic sports.

Pac-12 Los Angeles: Live events featuring UCLA and USC coverage in football, men’s & women’s basketball and Olympic sports.

Pac-12 Bay Area: Live events featuring Cal Berkeley and Stanford University coverage in football, men’s & women’s basketball and Olympic sports.

Pac-12 Oregon: Live events featuring University of Oregon and Oregon State University coverage in football, men’s & women’s basketball and Olympic sports.

Pac-12 Washington: Live events featuring University of Washington and Washington State University coverage in football, men’s & women’s basketball and Olympic sports.

Pac-12 Mountain: Live events featuring University of Utah and Colorado University coverage in football, men’s & women’s basketball and Olympic sports.

PAC 12 Plains?
PAC 12 Texoma?

So we should blow up the current system we have because one school is over it's head in debt?

How exactly is going to a regional system going to solve that?

This sounds a lot like something I've seen somewhere before.....






Admit it David.....this is you

(01-26-2017 12:38 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/20/it...ding-rate/

I think we need to do away with conferences and divisions. Even power conferences schools are bleeding cash big time. Lets do away with D1 FBS/FCS and merge half the D2 into D1. Large public schools over 10,000 will be grandfather into D1 and large private schools over 7500 as well. Plus the top schools in sports can move up. Combine the rest of D2 and D3 and add any of the NAIA, NCCAA and USCAA schools into one as well.

Instead of having conferences for football? Why not make them into regions?

Northwest
Southwest
North Plains
South Plains
Midwest
Gulf Coast (east Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, southern Missouri, west Tennessee and Mississippi)
Southeast
Mid Atlantic
NorthEast

As it is, only a few schools in the P5 are only making even. This type of story I seen around 2008 and 2009 that some schools from the PAC 12, Tulane, Vanderbilt and some others were seriously thinking of dropping football. California dropped baseball at one time, but got a backlash were money was raised which saved the program. This is an issue that FCOA and other issues are putting these schools like California go deeper in the hole. This is why I am seeing changes were more G5 schools will be added to P5 status. a few more conferences could also be added as a power conference for all sports like the Big East. I could see MVFC could become a new conference at the FBS level which could be a very strong conference for football, basketball, baseball and other sports. MWC and AAC would be added a power conference for football. And this is one of the reasons why D2 schools had reps in recent years attending to D1 school meetings.

If we want to save college sports? The power 5 conferences needs to change their snobbiness of trying to be separated to be more inclusive as a matter of survival of all the sports.

(01-27-2017 03:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So we should blow up the current system we have because one school is over it's head in debt?

How exactly is going to a regional system going to solve that?

This sounds a lot like something I've seen somewhere before.....






Admit it David.....this is you

It is not one school, but many schools.

(01-27-2017 04:07 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(01-27-2017 03:25 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  So we should blow up the current system we have because one school is over it's head in debt?

How exactly is going to a regional system going to solve that?

This sounds a lot like something I've seen somewhere before.....






Admit it David.....this is you

It is not one school, but many schools.

So explain how your proposal is going to make a difference. You made the claim.....back it up.

Link

Quote:LeBron's Cavaliers Lost An NBA-High $40 Million Last Season Despite Championship

Clearly the Lakers fault because they have more fans and make more money.

Maybe the NBA needs to reorganize into regions...oh, wait...

Creative accounting