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So who do folks think will make the Hall of Fame tonight at 6pm et?

I think Bagwell and Raines do. Hoffman maybe as well.

It'll be interesting to see where Clemens and Bonds go this year- year 5 of their chances.
01-18-2017 11:38 AM
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RE: baseball HOF
Jeff Bagwell
Tim Raines
Pudge Rodriguez
01-18-2017 06:04 PM
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RE: baseball HOF
Hoffman missed by 5 votes.
Vlad Guerrero missed by 15 votes.

Clemens and Bonds up over 50% now.
01-18-2017 06:17 PM
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RE: baseball HOF
These three bullet points are enough to explain why Raines belongs in the Hall:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/18461...-hall-fame
Quote:-- Over the seven seasons from 1981 to 1987, Raines led the National League in singles, doubles, triples and walks. In other words, he was so good at reaching base, he led his league in pretty much every way it's possible to "reach base."

-- And what seals it for many voters is the list of slam-dunk Hall of Famers who got on base fewer times than Raines did: Lou Brock, Roberto Clemente, Roberto Alomar, Ernie Banks, Mike Schmidt and Tony Gwynn. Just to name a half-dozen.

-- If you noticed the name of Gwynn on that list, so did lots of voters. They made a point of mentioning it to us. Raines and Gwynn played in the same generation and had careers of nearly the same length. But even though Gwynn got 536 more hits and beat Raines in batting average by 44 points, Raines' ability to draw walks made their OBPs almost identical (.388 for Gwynn, .385 for Raines) -- and Raines' baserunning brilliance enabled him to reach scoring position so often, he scored almost 200 more runs than Gwynn.
01-18-2017 06:23 PM
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Bonds and Clemens will probably be in eventually.
01-18-2017 06:30 PM
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Well overdue for Bagwell, speaking as a homer and a realist. The Steroid Era guilt by association and having his numbers, for lack of a better phrase, retarded by the cavernous Astrodome is what slowed his election. If he wasn't a First Ballot guy then he was close. One of the best all around players ever (hitting, baserunning and fielding).
01-18-2017 06:55 PM
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RE: baseball HOF
1 thing that was huge IMO was only Vlad and Manny Ramirez from the newcomers that didn't make the HOF got 5% so the rest of them dropped off the ballot.

so like for instance-
2016 ballot had 18 guys on it that had been there before
2017 ballot had 15 guys on it that had been there before
2018 ballot will have 14 guys on it that had been there before

a lot less clutter on the ballot now than before.
01-19-2017 12:46 PM
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They should put the steroid guys in since we have very few confirmed users
01-20-2017 09:18 AM
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(01-20-2017 09:18 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  They should put the steroid guys in since we have very few confirmed users

They'll get in eventually. As time passes, this realization will sink in: PED users are already in the Hall of Fame.
01-20-2017 03:09 PM
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Put in Billy Martin and Danny Murtaugh.
01-20-2017 03:27 PM
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