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(01-23-2017 03:18 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  The public won't even contribute land??

The prospective MLS ownership group is trying to get the state to contribute land next to Union Station. Since the governor and legislature are against corporate welfare and that land is estimated to be worth several tens of millions of dollars, it seems unlikely to be donated for a stadium. But, no decision has been made.

The city, on the other hand, has a lot of land they would like to get rid of. But, no one in their right mind would build a stadium in those locations.

The finance committee of the Board of Alderman will discuss the city's financing of the soccer stadium tomorrow. Based on the comments of many Aldermen in the media, I would say the proposal faces an uphill fight, as does the request for $168 million to renovate the Scott Trade Center.

As for the NFL, there is no point in discussing a stadium. No team will move here and even if one wanted to, the NFL has burned its bridges.
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01-23-2017 08:14 AM
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RE: Next pro team to move
Only teams less than 99% safe IMO are:
Jacksonville Jaguars
Oakland Raiders
Carolina Hurricanes
Florida Panthers
Arizona Coyotes
Tampa Bay Rays
Oakland Athletics

I think Raiders/Hurricanes are only ones in immediate danger (ditto Coyotes if Tempe stadium falls through) but both ultimately stay. Probably just wishful thinking on Raiders' end because a flagship brand like that moving to an untraditional city just seems so wrong.

Also I was looking whether Sacramento moved into their new stadium and laughed when I saw the address was 500 David J Stern Walkway.
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01-24-2017 04:16 AM
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(01-22-2017 01:13 PM)Phlipper33 Wrote:  
(01-22-2017 12:11 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Will Oakland fight to prevent the new Las Vegas NFL team from being the Raiders?

I'm thinking in the sense that when the old Browns moved to Baltimore and the old Oilers moved to Nashville, they had(?) to rebrand.


Actually, now that I think about it, why wasn't the new Houston franchise called the Oilers? I'm sure there was a lot of talk about that back then.

The Oilers took the name to Tennessee, they were actually the Tennessee Pilers for a couple of years. They had only been the Titans for one season prior to the Texans being named. The Texans did actually have to make a deal with the Chiefs to be able to use the Texans name, as the Chiefs began as the Dallas Texans. It would have probably been possible to acquire the Oilers name from the Titans, but I'm not sure how many people wanted that.

In regards to the Raiders, I think Oakland could try to keep the name, but I think they'll get to keep it. There's enough Raiders fans in Southern California and the Vegas areas it just makes too much sense to keep the Raiders name. Oakland let them move once already with the name, I'm not sure how much ground they have in not letting it move again.

Interesting enough, the NY Jets were originally called the NY Titans until they changed the name to the Jets in the early 60's.

There have been several versions of the Dallas Texans, its just that the version that played in the AFL in the early 60's, that moved to Kansas City and turned into the Chiefs, was the last franchise to be called the Dallas Texans.

There was another NFL franchise in the 1950's called the Dallas Texans, that sort of turned into the Baltimore Colts, although officially the Texans folded and the Colts were a new franchise, the Colts kept the same uniform colors and roster as the 1950's Texans franchise that had folded.

Similar, I guess to how the Cleveland Browns turned into the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens were officially a new franchise, but they had the old Browns roster and owner.
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01-24-2017 06:08 AM
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Think Orlando might get attention from the Jaguars. There seem to be plenty of capital that wants to be parked there. A new stadium would have all kinds of events. Tampa is too close though and the Dolphins would oppose it too. But Orlando metro just keeps expanding.
01-26-2017 07:51 AM
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(01-17-2017 03:07 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Where would Jacksonville move though?

San Diego or St Louis. Who knows? San Antonio/Austin.
01-26-2017 12:11 PM
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(01-26-2017 07:51 AM)NoDak Wrote:  Think Orlando might get attention from the Jaguars. There seem to be plenty of capital that wants to be parked there. A new stadium would have all kinds of events. Tampa is too close though and the Dolphins would oppose it too. But Orlando metro just keeps expanding.

You said it yourself, Tampa is too close and the Bucs have been struggling at the box office, so they won't move a team less than 100 miles away to compete with them.
01-26-2017 03:02 PM
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(01-26-2017 03:02 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Tampa is too close and the Bucs have been struggling at the box office, so they won't move a team less than 100 miles away to compete with them.

That is also why no NFL team will be moving to San Diego. The Chargers will struggle to fill KroenkeWorld — heck, they might even struggle to fill just the lower deck there — and the Rams won't sell out either if they continue to be bad. The league won't approve the move of a team to a city 100 miles away from one team that almost never sells out, let alone two.
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I said it before, they'll be back within a generation, money be damned.
01-27-2017 12:44 AM
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(01-26-2017 05:42 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(01-26-2017 03:02 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Tampa is too close and the Bucs have been struggling at the box office, so they won't move a team less than 100 miles away to compete with them.

That is also why no NFL team will be moving to San Diego. The Chargers will struggle to fill KroenkeWorld — heck, they might even struggle to fill just the lower deck there — and the Rams won't sell out either if they continue to be bad. The league won't approve the move of a team to a city 100 miles away from one team that almost never sells out, let alone two.


Only way I can see it happening is if the NFL encouraged an ownership coup d`etat within the Chargers, and gave the new owner lots of $$$'s to leave LA and go back to San Diego. No telling if San Diego would accept the new owner though.
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Any chance at all that Portland could swipe the Athletics or Angels, to create a MLS-esque rivalry with Seattle?
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