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What are everyone's expectations?

At the beginning of last season several posters on this board stated that a MAC Championship was a must for the team...and anything less would be a disappointment.

Should Lester be expected to win the MAC in year 4? Is that the new standard?
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RE: Expectations
Our team is mature, talented and experienced. The championship expectation remains. Be in the discussion on Thanksgiving.
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RE: Expectations
I am not sure that its MACC or bust. We've done that exactly 3 times since 1947, so while I am a big proponent of raising expectations I do not think we need to be petulant if we haven't become a dynasty after last season. I want 2 Non con wins 6 MAC wins minimum. I think we will be favored in 8 games. Anything more than that will be great and less than that will be disappointing. Keep growing this thing. Pile up wins, play in big games, make recruiting season like another sport around here and win some bowl games. I think we need to have every 4 yr bronco leave with a ring. A MACC every 4 years should be our standard IMO.
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RE: Expectations
6-7 wins. I'm being serious.
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RE: Expectations
Quote:Should Lester be expected to win the MAC in year 4? Is that the new standard?

If Lester was OC/QB coach here under Fleck this whole time -- I'd be leaning more toward Yes. Lester's followed our team, and the transition isn't going to be radical... but it's going to be an adjustment overall. And we replace one of our best QBs and our Best WR ever, and the go-to guy when he's double-covered -- all under new management.

Much of it has to do with how well NIU/Toledo/CMU will be. We have CMU at home and CMU loses their QB (phew). But NIU will be better next year, and it's @NIU. When have we last won there, again? Toledo will be more sound, I believe, and @Toledo, they'll obviously want revenge. We flat-out UPSET them when we last played there, and this past year they couldn't do that to us in our house as it certainly wasn't the year to do it (thanks Toledo turnovers!). Do we play Miami in the East? And Ohio? The East will improve...

Overall, all I can say is that the Expectations are that we should be in the Running to win the West. Us vs Toledo -- and how good NIU is this coming year, a real test to Rod Carey, can/will be the spoiler for either of us, or as much in the running, too... and don't forget about EMU kicking some teams in the balls (which could help us or hurt us).

But No, we're not in an above-league position like NIU with Lynch and the couple years prior. That would be too optimistic/naive to say.
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RE: Expectations
I will always expect that we compete for the MACC. No reason to temper expectations now.
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RE: Expectations
Not that I want Lester to underperform, so I can say: "I told you so"...but I do think a MAC Championship in year 4 should be expected. However, life happens...
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RE: Expectations
Quote:I do think a MAC Championship in year 4 should be expected.

4 years?????

How about 2? And we should be making plenty of noise next season.
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RE: Expectations
(01-16-2017 02:51 PM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
Quote:I do think a MAC Championship in year 4 should be expected.

4 years?????

How about 2? And we should be making plenty of noise next season.

I think the whole expectation thing hangs on two points

1. as mentioned make recruiting another sport around here...we need to continue to compete and win the players that the p5 schools go after
2. Once they are here the coaching has to shine and get them coached up to play ( dare I say elite) ewwww I shouldnt have said that ....how about the coaches get the most they can out of them. I think if the staff can do those two things well the winning will follow.
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RE: Expectations
If Lester has the talent in his third year that he has on the team his first year he will have recruited at a level far beyond what I expect. These first two years should give him the opportunity to build a solid record of success. Having said that, the 2017 season will be tough, as the nonconference schedule is brutal. USC MSU and Idaho are all more than just quality opponents. And the MAC is a league where no game can be taken for granted. Even this year.

We could win the MACC in 2017, but we could lose a bunch of games too. I wish I was more sold on Lester. I think if we go back to old school philosophies we are doomed to mediocrity. If he thinks more out of the box, and always stays creative and unpredictable, we can continue to grow.

Anything less than 4 losses would be decent I think. We have tremendous talent. Anything is possible. The coaches will dictate the future.
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(01-16-2017 03:10 PM)brovol Wrote:  If Lester has the talent in his third year that he has on the team his first year he will have recruited at a level far beyond what I expect. These first two years should give him the opportunity to build a solid record of success. Having said that, the 2017 season will be tough, as the nonconference schedule is brutal. USC MSU and Idaho are all more than just quality opponents. And the MAC is a league where no game can be taken for granted. Even this year.

We could win the MACC in 2017, but we could lose a bunch of games too. I wish I was more sold on Lester. I think if we go back to old school philosophies we are doomed to mediocrity. If he thinks more out of the box, and always stays creative and unpredictable, we can continue to grow.

Anything less than 4 losses would be decent I think. We have tremendous talent. Anything is possible. The coaches will dictate the future.

Agreed.
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RE: Expectations
(01-16-2017 01:43 PM)wmutkelaw Wrote:  What are everyone's expectations?

At the beginning of last season several posters on this board stated that a MAC Championship was a must for the team...and anything less would be a disappointment.

Should Lester be expected to win the MAC in year 4? Is that the new standard?

I was one that said MACC or bust but that was based on schedule and having a senior QB and first round WR.

The schedule is nowhere near as favorable and obviously there are some losses. There is enough talent to make noise though so I'd say around 8 wins and maybe put a scare into a P5 if not a win.
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RE: Expectations
With this talent anything less than 8 wins and a competitive showing ooc and it's a loss. Never have we had this much talent or exposure. It's capitalize or bust. the momentum we've lost over the past few weeks concerns me but is somewhat expected. I'll definitely give him two years of a benefit of a doubt. He is a bronco after all.
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RE: Expectations
This team went 13-1 and played Wisconsin tough in the Cotton Bowl. We also return almost the entire defense. There is talent, experience and depth across the board. The only place we might lack the experience and depth is at QB and WR. But with the OL and RB corps that we have...expectations should still be high.

When Lester was hired, I thought that we should still be competing with the top of the MAC West. When I learned that he would be paid 800k, up to 1.1 mil with bonuses, and another 1.1 mil for his assistants....there is no excuse for anything other than another MACC. If we're shelling out that kind of money, we need results. And with a team this stocked with talent, you're never going to have a better chance to achieve those results.
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RE: Expectations
(01-16-2017 03:35 PM)kzoorob Wrote:  With this talent anything less than 8 wins and a competitive showing ooc and it's a loss. Never have we had this much talent or exposure. It's capitalize or bust. the momentum we've lost over the past few weeks concerns me but is somewhat expected. I'll definitely give him two years of a benefit of a doubt. He is a bronco after all.

All mighty Jesus. 8 wins you think is competitive? Get out. You low expectation friends. Lol
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RE: Expectations
Quote:Jesus. 8 wins you think is competitive? Get the f.u.c.k out. You low expectation mother f.ucker.s.

I think you're thinking of this past year. Are you in a time machine? :)

@USC [GuaranSheed Loss]
@MSU [A Loss; Unless MSU is in a true downard spiral which no indications they actually are]
@NIU [NIU Improved; When's the last time we won here? None under PJ and had to fight on our own turf to beat them in their down year]
@Toledo [We upset them when ranked there; They'll be Good; Expect a loss but we can win]

Idaho [9W team making last hurrah before going FCS; Thankfully it's at home; Should win]
@EMU [improved team remember; on the road this time; no easy task at EMU's rate]
CMU [should have this one of course]
BSU [A win]
3 MAC East Teams / 2 Home, 1 Away [Should win 2 out of 3, if not all 3 if we're operating well]
Wagner-FCS [GuaranSheed win]

With a new QB, WR set, and more importantly new coaching helm adjusting things with the air of PJ out of the room -- yeah, 8-4 is Competitive and "par".

Expectations is that we could certainly beat @NIU or @Toledo, but end up slipping to a tough MAC-E team/CMU/@EMU/Idaho-if-as-good-as-this-past-year.
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(01-16-2017 06:41 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Jesus. 8 wins you think is competitive? Get the f.u.c.k out. You low expectation mother f.ucker.s.

I think you're thinking of this past year. Are you in a time machine? :)

@USC [GuaranSheed Loss]
@MSU [A Loss; Unless MSU is in a true downard spiral which no indications they actually are]
@NIU [NIU Improved; When's the last time we won here? None under PJ and had to fight on our own turf to beat them in their down year]
@Toledo [We upset them when ranked there; They'll be Good; Expect a loss but we can win]

Idaho [9W team making last hurrah before going FCS; Thankfully it's at home; Should win]
@EMU [improved team remember; on the road this time; no easy task at EMU's rate]
CMU [should have this one of course]
BSU [A win]
3 MAC East Teams / 2 Home, 1 Away [Should win 2 out of 3, if not all 3 if we're operating well]
Wagner-FCS [GuaranSheed win]

With a new QB, WR set, and more importantly new coaching helm adjusting things with the air of PJ out of the room -- yeah, 8-4 is Competitive and "par".

Expectations is that we could certainly beat @NIU or @Toledo, but end up slipping to a tough MAC-E team/CMU/@EMU/Idaho-if-as-good-as-this-past-year.

I agree with this assessment. Remember... EMU also beat Wyoming last year on their grey field... that place just sucks the soul out of opposing teams... cement cement cement cement....
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RE: Expectations
(01-16-2017 06:41 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Jesus. 8 wins you think is competitive? Get the f.u.c.k out. You low expectation mother f.ucker.s.

I think you're thinking of this past year. Are you in a time machine? :)

@USC [GuaranSheed Loss]
@MSU [A Loss; Unless MSU is in a true downard spiral which no indications they actually are]
@NIU [NIU Improved; When's the last time we won here? None under PJ and had to fight on our own turf to beat them in their down year]
@Toledo [We upset them when ranked there; They'll be Good; Expect a loss but we can win]

Idaho [9W team making last hurrah before going FCS; Thankfully it's at home; Should win]
@EMU [improved team remember; on the road this time; no easy task at EMU's rate]
CMU [should have this one of course]
BSU [A win]
3 MAC East Teams / 2 Home, 1 Away [Should win 2 out of 3, if not all 3 if we're operating well]
Wagner-FCS [GuaranSheed win]

With a new QB, WR set, and more importantly new coaching helm adjusting things with the air of PJ out of the room -- yeah, 8-4 is Competitive and "par".

Expectations is that we could certainly beat @NIU or @Toledo, but end up slipping to a tough MAC-E team/CMU/@EMU/Idaho-if-as-good-as-this-past-year.

USC is the only game that should be a possible loss. Period. Low expectation fan. My God. Can you image Michigan fans "Mmm 8 wins would be a good year." Get the .... out of here. I can't stand this. Jesus. Have some self respect.
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RE: Expectations
(01-16-2017 07:28 PM)lancergolf1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 06:41 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Jesus. 8 wins you think is competitive? Get the f.u.c.k out. You low expectation mother f.ucker.s.

I think you're thinking of this past year. Are you in a time machine? :)

@USC [GuaranSheed Loss]
@MSU [A Loss; Unless MSU is in a true downard spiral which no indications they actually are]
@NIU [NIU Improved; When's the last time we won here? None under PJ and had to fight on our own turf to beat them in their down year]
@Toledo [We upset them when ranked there; They'll be Good; Expect a loss but we can win]

Idaho [9W team making last hurrah before going FCS; Thankfully it's at home; Should win]
@EMU [improved team remember; on the road this time; no easy task at EMU's rate]
CMU [should have this one of course]
BSU [A win]
3 MAC East Teams / 2 Home, 1 Away [Should win 2 out of 3, if not all 3 if we're operating well]
Wagner-FCS [GuaranSheed win]

With a new QB, WR set, and more importantly new coaching helm adjusting things with the air of PJ out of the room -- yeah, 8-4 is Competitive and "par".

Expectations is that we could certainly beat @NIU or @Toledo, but end up slipping to a tough MAC-E team/CMU/@EMU/Idaho-if-as-good-as-this-past-year.

USC is the only game that should be a possible loss. Period. Low expectation fan. My God. Can you image Michigan fans "Mmm 8 wins would be a good year." Get the fuc.k out of here. I can't stand this. Jesus. Have some self respect.

Can we please get this clown banned? Lends nothing to the board. Filthy loudmouth.
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RE: Expectations
(01-16-2017 07:36 PM)WMUslappy1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 07:28 PM)lancergolf1 Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 06:41 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Jesus. 8 wins you think is competitive? Get the f.u.c.k out. You low expectation mother f.ucker.s.

I think you're thinking of this past year. Are you in a time machine? :)

@USC [GuaranSheed Loss]
@MSU [A Loss; Unless MSU is in a true downard spiral which no indications they actually are]
@NIU [NIU Improved; When's the last time we won here? None under PJ and had to fight on our own turf to beat them in their down year]
@Toledo [We upset them when ranked there; They'll be Good; Expect a loss but we can win]

Idaho [9W team making last hurrah before going FCS; Thankfully it's at home; Should win]
@EMU [improved team remember; on the road this time; no easy task at EMU's rate]
CMU [should have this one of course]
BSU [A win]
3 MAC East Teams / 2 Home, 1 Away [Should win 2 out of 3, if not all 3 if we're operating well]
Wagner-FCS [GuaranSheed win]

With a new QB, WR set, and more importantly new coaching helm adjusting things with the air of PJ out of the room -- yeah, 8-4 is Competitive and "par".

Expectations is that we could certainly beat @NIU or @Toledo, but end up slipping to a tough MAC-E team/CMU/@EMU/Idaho-if-as-good-as-this-past-year.

USC is the only game that should be a possible loss. Period. Low expectation fan. My God. Can you image Michigan fans "Mmm 8 wins would be a good year." Get the fuc.k out of here. I can't stand this. Jesus. Have some self respect.

Can we please get this clown banned? Lends nothing to the board. Filthy loudmouth.

Your 8 win expectations are adding a ton of value slappy.

Raise your expectations.
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