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How far does Gonzaga go?
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(01-16-2017 04:00 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  I disagree with most of the comments here. I think Few is a good coach, and a lot of teams would be lucky to have him. As far as this year goes, Gonzaga has only been held under 70 once and that was by Arizona, in a six point Zags win. They've scored 80 or more in every game except a couple, so he is playing a more up tempo style this season. These players are all different from the Adam Morrison era, so you can't hold those failures against the current bunch. I'm amazed Few has the quality teams he has year in and year out, considering the league he's in, and recruiting wasteland he operates from. Last year at this time plenty of people were discounting Villanova because of some recent poor tournament showings, and then they steamrolled nearly everyone they faced on the way to the championship. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the year Gonzaga also makes some real noise . They have a really good team.

Yada, yada, yada, we've heard it all before. Sure many would love to have Few but he has to prove his worth in the Tournament. His performances suggests he's merely finding and plugging players that fit his system and getting the most out of them because their lack of whatever gets exposed in March. Yeah, it's all a crapshoot in March but they've also consistently choked, including last year.
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Quote:Round of 32, because it is Gonzaga. However hope they can get as far as they can.

Doesn't add up, though. Gonzaga made it to the Sweet 16 as a #11 Seed last year. They made it to the Elite Eight two years ago as a #2 Seed.

Why, with them on their way to being a #1 or #2 seed -- would you think they're destined to lose in the 2nd round?

I can understand stopping short of the Final Four because THAT's in their cards. And sure, they have been a little more than capable of being upset when they're a top dog over the many years -- but it's by no means a Given.
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01-16-2017 04:38 PM
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(01-16-2017 04:03 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Be a damn shame if he ever got elected to the Hall of Fame without a Final Four appearance.

Totally agree. Without that deep run, he's going to just look like a very consistent coach for a mid-major program in an irrelevant conference.

Worthy of it otherwise, even if I have doubts about his overall ability. I don't know who goes to that many tournaments consecutively again, especially for a mid-major conference, but people will look at the tournament record and accolades before all of his numbers.

(01-16-2017 04:00 PM)hoops22 Wrote:  I disagree with most of the comments here. I think Few is a good coach, and a lot of teams would be lucky to have him. As far as this year goes, Gonzaga has only been held under 70 once and that was by Arizona, in a six point Zags win. They've scored 80 or more in every game except a couple, so he is playing a more up tempo style this season. These players are all different from the Adam Morrison era, so you can't hold those failures against the current bunch. I'm amazed Few has the quality teams he has year in and year out, considering the league he's in, and recruiting wasteland he operates from. Last year at this time plenty of people were discounting Villanova because of some recent poor tournament showings, and then they steamrolled nearly everyone they faced on the way to the championship. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the year Gonzaga also makes some real noise . They have a really good team.

Few was going deeper in the tournament than Wright was until last year. Believe me, because I'm in the Philly burbs...Phil Martelli held more respect than Jay Wright until he finally broke through...and Martelli hasn't had as good a team as that Elite Eight squad since. A lot of people around here wrote Jay off because he couldn't get far in the tournament. You could like the guy...couldn't fully respect him because of the tournament failures (both in the championship and Big East tournies).

Few will get that same respect if he goes to a Final Four or better. People will forget the majority of the under-performing seasons. A Final Four will do that. A championship will make him immortal, like Jay now is in Philly (and this town still loves Rollie, as much of a shmuck as he was when he wasn't winning the championship).
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(01-16-2017 04:38 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Round of 32, because it is Gonzaga. However hope they can get as far as they can.

Doesn't add up, though. Gonzaga made it to the Sweet 16 as a #11 Seed last year. They made it to the Elite Eight two years ago as a #2 Seed.

Why, with them on their way to being a #1 or #2 seed -- would you think they're destined to lose in the 2nd round?

I can understand stopping short of the Final Four because THAT's in their cards. And sure, they have been a little more than capable of being upset when they're a top dog over the many years -- but it's by no means a Given.

Because that's what they do. Before the last couple years, they had made the Sweet 16 twice in 13 years. The last time they were a 1, they almost lost to a 16 and lost to a 9 in the second round, granted that was a Final Four team. Seeded 3 or higher, they are just 8-5, when it should be 10-5 bare minimum (they lost as the higher seeded team every time but twice, the exceptions including the infamous Adam Morrison crying choke against UCLA). They're just 10-6 as a 4 or higher.

They don't get any credibility until they show up in March.
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Look whose undefeated and top ranked.
01-30-2017 11:23 PM
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I think they'll at least make the Sweet 16.

In 2013, 9-seed Wichita State was getting players back from injury and a Vanvleet/Armstead/Baker/Early/Carl Hall starting 5 was insane (injuries prevented this lineup most of the year). Gonzaga makes the Elite 8 that year if not for one poor draw.

This year, I don't see an 8/9 seed with unique circumstances where the stars align like the '13 Shockers or '11 Butler.

I'd like Saint Mary's as an 8/9 to make a deep run but they wouldn't be paired with Gonzaga anyway.
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The Zags would have made the Sweet 16 if not for a barrage of 3's from the WheatShox.
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(01-30-2017 11:41 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  The Zags would have made the Sweet 16 if not for a barrage of 3's from the WheatShox.

Well, any team will win if their opponent can't make shots.

Wichita State figured out how to play against the coverage clock. It wasn't that they were good with the 3's...they knew how to move the ball and control the game in a way that kept momentum on their side.

It instantly felt like a style fit only for the NCAA tournament. That's the smarts of Marshall...or, yet another example of Few being out-coached. Marshall had Few on the ropes before with Winthrop...clearly Marshall demonstrated himself as the better, more adaptive coach.
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No, I wasn't speaking in general, Wichita was hitting some ridiculous, difficult 3's late to take command. Gonzaga partially imploded but it was more about Wichita's amazing display from long range.
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Gonzaga's unbeaten season will come to an end at St. Mary's in a week.
02-05-2017 02:23 AM
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