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RE: DJ Jeffries switching from Team Thad to Team Penny
Their reasoning was that he is a "blue blood" and will end up at a blue blood school like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc....

We used to be able to get blue bloods when they were from Memphis, we even got a few from outside Memphis when Cal was here. I guess Jason and John think those days are over even with Memphis kids.

Penny was the biggest blue blood to ever come out of Memphis, if he is on our side I think we have better than a 3% chance.
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RE: DJ Jeffries switching from Team Thad to Team Penny
Maybe the Memphis East/Team Penny guys will give him the hard sell of having a group of Memphis guys do something special.

Chandler Lawson
DJ Jeffries
TJ Moss
Alex Lomax

Just need a center.
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(01-17-2017 04:05 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Maybe the Memphis East/Team Penny guys will give him the hard sell of having a group of Memphis guys do something special.

Chandler Lawson
DJ Jeffries
TJ Moss
Alex Lomax

Just need a center.

Are you high on Moss? I have seen him play three games and he probably has made like thee outside shots, and he shot plenty. Some misses were way off. Maybe I haven't seen him play enough.
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Malcolm Dandridge will hopefully be that center
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(01-17-2017 04:30 PM)450bench Wrote:  Malcolm Dandridge will hopefully be that center

Well, that would be a hope.

Is he rated?

I know the other four are, with Lawson being top 20 and DJ being top 5.
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(01-17-2017 04:32 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:30 PM)450bench Wrote:  Malcolm Dandridge will hopefully be that center

Well, that would be a hope.

Is he rated?

I know the other four are, with Lawson being top 20 and DJ being top 5.

Not sure where he is rated. I love his game. Totally under the radar.
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(01-18-2017 01:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:32 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:30 PM)450bench Wrote:  Malcolm Dandridge will hopefully be that center

Well, that would be a hope.

Is he rated?

I know the other four are, with Lawson being top 20 and DJ being top 5.

Not sure where he is rated. I love his game. Totally under the radar.

I haven't seen him much - he had good size but bad hands, but it may have just been an off day.
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(01-18-2017 01:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 01:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:32 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:30 PM)450bench Wrote:  Malcolm Dandridge will hopefully be that center

Well, that would be a hope.

Is he rated?

I know the other four are, with Lawson being top 20 and DJ being top 5.

Not sure where he is rated. I love his game. Totally under the radar.

I haven't seen him much - he had good size but bad hands, but it may have just been an off day.

He's young and pretty raw. Doesn't really need to be a star.
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RE: DJ Jeffries switching from Team Thad to Team Penny
(01-18-2017 01:26 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 01:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 01:03 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:32 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 04:30 PM)450bench Wrote:  Malcolm Dandridge will hopefully be that center

Well, that would be a hope.

Is he rated?

I know the other four are, with Lawson being top 20 and DJ being top 5.

Not sure where he is rated. I love his game. Totally under the radar.

I haven't seen him much - he had good size but bad hands, but it may have just been an off day.

He's young and pretty raw. Doesn't really need to be a star.

How would you compare him to say, Nick Marshall?
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(01-17-2017 03:36 PM)idroot4russia Wrote:  Their reasoning was that he is a "blue blood" and will end up at a blue blood school like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc....

We used to be able to get blue bloods when they were from Memphis, we even got a few from outside Memphis when Cal was here. I guess Jason and John think those days are over even with Memphis kids.

Penny was the biggest blue blood to ever come out of Memphis, if he is on our side I think we have better than a 3% chance.

You gotta "play the game" now to get those guys

Even the ones locally

Cal did it

And yes wonder boy squeeky clean Josh did it

Tubby won't
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(01-18-2017 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 03:36 PM)idroot4russia Wrote:  Their reasoning was that he is a "blue blood" and will end up at a blue blood school like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc....

We used to be able to get blue bloods when they were from Memphis, we even got a few from outside Memphis when Cal was here. I guess Jason and John think those days are over even with Memphis kids.

Penny was the biggest blue blood to ever come out of Memphis, if he is on our side I think we have better than a 3% chance.

You gotta "play the game" now to get those guys

Even the ones locally

Cal did it

And yes wonder boy squeeky clean Josh did it

Tubby won't

I'll probably catch flack for saying it, if this is the case, then he won't be here long. He'll win, but if he doesn't "maximize" his ability to win, even the most faithful of Memphis fans will sour on him (especially if he misses out on Memphis' best).

Of course, the simple answer is to let his assistants "play the game."
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(01-18-2017 02:47 PM)airric2255 Wrote:  
(01-18-2017 02:05 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-17-2017 03:36 PM)idroot4russia Wrote:  Their reasoning was that he is a "blue blood" and will end up at a blue blood school like Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, etc....

We used to be able to get blue bloods when they were from Memphis, we even got a few from outside Memphis when Cal was here. I guess Jason and John think those days are over even with Memphis kids.

Penny was the biggest blue blood to ever come out of Memphis, if he is on our side I think we have better than a 3% chance.

You gotta "play the game" now to get those guys

Even the ones locally

Cal did it

And yes wonder boy squeeky clean Josh did it

Tubby won't

I'll probably catch flack for saying it, if this is the case, then he won't be here long. He'll win, but if he doesn't "maximize" his ability to win, even the most faithful of Memphis fans will sour on him (especially is he misses out on Memphis' best).

Of course, the simple answer is to let his assistants "play the game."
I can't imagine Tubby missing out and not getting most of the good Memphis kids. I don't see that happening. Today's article by the new beat writer, it was the mailbag article, where fans could send in their questions, indicates that Tubby is focused on the best players in the Memphis area. He wants them, so I see no reason why he won't get most of them.

Now for any clown, such as Penny lane or racecar guy, that thinks I'm blindly following Tubby because of my screen name or because I don't take part in the ridiculous over the top bashing of Tubby, and I'm just saying Tubby will get the players locally as a way to defend him. That's total BS. If Tubby can't get the best players here in Memphis and he can't win at a high level. Tubby doesn't deserve to keep this job. I don't see that happening though.
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Here’s what I’ve picked up in my few weeks in Memphis: Tubby Smith and his staff can hear you. They know how important regaining control of the local recruiting scene will be to their success. They’ve offered and are actively going after every one of those top Memphis-area recruits, from Alex Lomax, T.J. Moss and Chandler Lawson at East, to Tyler Harris at Cordova, DJ Jeffries at Olive Branch (Miss.) and Ryan Boyce at Houston. Now, whether they get one of them to commit is a different story and we probably won’t have a sense of how this ends until at least the summer.

More often than not, a basketball recruit committing to a school before their final year of AAU basketball is a sign that prospect doesn’t believe a bigger scholarship offer is out there. That’s not the case in this situation. The fact that most of these prospects happen to play for Team Penny in the spring and summer will help Memphis' chances. Though I don’t get the sense any of these recruits, aside from perhaps Jeffries, is a program changer by themselves, it would behoove Tubby Smith to convince one of the Memphis-area recruits to commit sooner rather than later. He needs a major piece to get the ball rolling and put a face to his local recruiting efforts. My guess is snagging one would lead to another.

The immediate future, however, is still uncertain without knowing Dedric Lawson’s plans. And if he leaves, will K.J. depart as well? I expect Memphis to pursue a sixth year waiver from the NCAA for forward Chad Rykhoek. And no matter what happens with the Lawsons, Memphis will likely try to sign a junior college transfer, a graduate transfer or both this offseason. If Dedric and K.J. are back, the Tigers still have one open scholarship next year even with freshmen Jamal Johnson, David Nickelberry and Victor Enoh in the fold. But do you save that open scholarship for 2018 and 2019, when perhaps you can get a higher-rated prospect? Recruiting is never cut-and-dry, but it’s obvious Memphis faces a pivotal offseason regardless of how the rest of the schedule plays out.

As for the signed 2017 recruiting class, Johnson appears to be the best of the bunch. The son of former NBA player and Alabama standout Buck Johnson is a 6-4 combo guard having a strong senior season at Spain Park (Ala.). Nickelberry is a versatile 6-foot-7 wing from the Orlando area known for his ability to set up others. Enoh has a college-ready 6-foot-8 physique, but will likely need some seasoning on the offensive end before becoming a consistent contributor at the college level.
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(01-18-2017 04:05 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Here’s what I’ve picked up in my few weeks in Memphis: Tubby Smith and his staff can hear you. They know how important regaining control of the local recruiting scene will be to their success. They’ve offered and are actively going after every one of those top Memphis-area recruits, from Alex Lomax, T.J. Moss and Chandler Lawson at East, to Tyler Harris at Cordova, DJ Jeffries at Olive Branch (Miss.) and Ryan Boyce at Houston. Now, whether they get one of them to commit is a different story and we probably won’t have a sense of how this ends until at least the summer.

More often than not, a basketball recruit committing to a school before their final year of AAU basketball is a sign that prospect doesn’t believe a bigger scholarship offer is out there. That’s not the case in this situation. The fact that most of these prospects happen to play for Team Penny in the spring and summer will help Memphis' chances. Though I don’t get the sense any of these recruits, aside from perhaps Jeffries, is a program changer by themselves, it would behoove Tubby Smith to convince one of the Memphis-area recruits to commit sooner rather than later. He needs a major piece to get the ball rolling and put a face to his local recruiting efforts. My guess is snagging one would lead to another.

The immediate future, however, is still uncertain without knowing Dedric Lawson’s plans. And if he leaves, will K.J. depart as well? I expect Memphis to pursue a sixth year waiver from the NCAA for forward Chad Rykhoek. And no matter what happens with the Lawsons, Memphis will likely try to sign a junior college transfer, a graduate transfer or both this offseason. If Dedric and K.J. are back, the Tigers still have one open scholarship next year even with freshmen Jamal Johnson, David Nickelberry and Victor Enoh in the fold. But do you save that open scholarship for 2018 and 2019, when perhaps you can get a higher-rated prospect? Recruiting is never cut-and-dry, but it’s obvious Memphis faces a pivotal offseason regardless of how the rest of the schedule plays out.

As for the signed 2017 recruiting class, Johnson appears to be the best of the bunch. The son of former NBA player and Alabama standout Buck Johnson is a 6-4 combo guard having a strong senior season at Spain Park (Ala.). Nickelberry is a versatile 6-foot-7 wing from the Orlando area known for his ability to set up others. Enoh has a college-ready 6-foot-8 physique, but will likely need some seasoning on the offensive end before becoming a consistent contributor at the college level.
Yep, that's the article I was referring to. Again, I believe he will get most of the good Memphis players. Most Memphis players want to be a Tiger. look at Joe Jackson, he said he was coming to Memphis no matter who the coach was, if it was josh or some guy named Billy Bob from Walmart. That being said, I would think good Memphis players would want to play for Tubby, look at Jeremiah Martin and Markel Crawford. But if for some reason he can't get the good Memphis kids and he can't win here on a high level. Tubby has to go. As I said above though, I don't see that happening.
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It does help that CTS has helped the players get better
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Gotta keep the elite ones home. No getting around it.

Tubby can coach - we've all seen it this year. We all knew it when he was hired. But he needs talent if this program wants to become relevant again on a national level. Hard to recruit elite talent these days, making the local prospects even more important.
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(01-20-2017 02:39 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Gotta keep the elite ones home. No getting around it.

The only other options are sign a similar elite from outside Memphis OR develop a non local player that produces like an elite - i..e. - miss on Jeffries and Chandler but have Nickelberry playing like a 1st team AA while ALSO winning big, or big enough.

Can't only have Nickelberry and go say 21-11 while Jeffries is at Kentucky going 32-4 and Chandler is at say Arkansas going 28-6...or anything similar to that.

If you make the choice on outside guys only, then you better be able to produce on the court like the places they go.

Memphis fans known their local players and are aware of what is going on.
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(01-17-2017 02:02 PM)idroot4russia Wrote:  Jason and John were talking about it on the radio a couple hours ago.

Neither think that Jeffries switching to team Penny means he will end up at Memphis. One of them said our chances may have gone from 0% to like 3%.

But what do those guys know, John said there was 0% chance Austin would sign with us over the Vols.

Recruiting is fluid
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(01-20-2017 09:45 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-20-2017 02:39 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Gotta keep the elite ones home. No getting around it.

The only other options are sign a similar elite from outside Memphis OR develop a non local player that produces like an elite - i..e. - miss on Jeffries and Chandler but have Nickelberry playing like a 1st team AA while ALSO winning big, or big enough.

Can't only have Nickelberry and go say 21-11 while Jeffries is at Kentucky going 32-4 and Chandler is at say Arkansas going 28-6...or anything similar to that.

If you make the choice on outside guys only, then you better be able to produce on the court like the places they go.

Memphis fans known their local players and are aware of what is going on.

Honestly I don't think it matters where the players come from, winning or losing will decide whether he succeeds as you stated above.

Josh had squads full of local stars and that didn't buy him any time.
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(01-20-2017 09:45 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-20-2017 02:39 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  Gotta keep the elite ones home. No getting around it.

The only other options are sign a similar elite from outside Memphis OR develop a non local player that produces like an elite - i..e. - miss on Jeffries and Chandler but have Nickelberry playing like a 1st team AA while ALSO winning big, or big enough.

Can't only have Nickelberry and go say 21-11 while Jeffries is at Kentucky going 32-4 and Chandler is at say Arkansas going 28-6...or anything similar to that.

If you make the choice on outside guys only, then you better be able to produce on the court like the places they go.

Memphis fans known their local players and are aware of what is going on.

Tubby is recruiting the Memphis kids hard. Staff members are all over them. They were at Tyler Harris' game last night. They were also the first school to call him when coaches were allowed to contact players. I don't see or believe that Tubby will choose not to go hard after local kids and just recruit outside of Memphis.
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