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Much to do about nothing.
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(01-14-2017 12:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Something this stupid is right up Tom's alley.

Just shows how desperate some are to try and delegitimize Trump's election victory.
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(01-14-2017 01:04 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ba462d64c...P_Politics

This isn't good. There is way too much smoke for there not to be something. It's not like we're talking about a lone wolf (or two), where we can just call it out as BS.

Remember when Trump called out the intelligence crowd? I think he picked his first truly wrong fight.

They'll destroy Trump if a deal isn't reached. He's making too many resourceful enemies way too fast.

I almost wonder if whether or not it's completely true will even save him. You can't pit people against each other over and over and over and over again, and expect there to be no return fire.

You're using the AP as the source for your criticism of Trump. The AP hates Trump and will do anything and write anything to make him look bad. Ergo, they post this hit piece to make Trump look bad and hope that gullible "center-right" people like yourself buy it wholesale. The end.
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(01-14-2017 01:04 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ba462d64c...P_Politics
This isn't good. There is way too much smoke for there not to be something. It's not like we're talking about a lone wolf (or two), where we can just call it out as BS.
Remember when Trump called out the intelligence crowd? I think he picked his first truly wrong fight.
They'll destroy Trump if a deal isn't reached. He's making too many resourceful enemies way too fast.
I almost wonder if whether or not it's completely true will even save him. You can't pit people against each other over and over and over and over again, and expect there to be no return fire.

So the Trump administration is establishing contact with representatives of the Russian government before taking office, instead of waiting until January 20th and taking over cold turkey? Sounds like what they should be doing.
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(01-14-2017 12:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(01-14-2017 01:04 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ba462d64c...P_Politics
This isn't good. There is way too much smoke for there not to be something. It's not like we're talking about a lone wolf (or two), where we can just call it out as BS.
Remember when Trump called out the intelligence crowd? I think he picked his first truly wrong fight.
They'll destroy Trump if a deal isn't reached. He's making too many resourceful enemies way too fast.
I almost wonder if whether or not it's completely true will even save him. You can't pit people against each other over and over and over and over again, and expect there to be no return fire.

So the Trump administration is establishing contact with representatives of the Russian government before taking office, instead of waiting until January 20th and taking over cold turkey? Sounds like what they should be doing.

You have to remember. Libs aren't used to the POTUS actually doing his job. So, when they see it, they think it's weird and some sort of conspiracy, etc.
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Trump is a deal-doer. He's going to try to negotiate deals to resolve any issue. That's who he is and what he does. We haven't had a deal-doer since Bill Clinton, and before him probably Reagan. Those are probably the best two presidents in the last 50 years, at least.

We've had two hard core ideologues for our last two. I'm ready for another deal-maker.
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The most hilarious thing about this is if Trump's team had refused to meet with the Russians or anybody else the exact same media who's crying foul about this would be saying he's not properly preparing to take office Jan 20th and setting foreign relations back. For proof of that all one has to do is rewind to mid November when the media was losing their minds about the pace of naming his cabinet appointments.....up until the conservative press pointed out that he was ahead of the schedule that their lord and savior Obama set in 2008.
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So, in short, the Trump transition team is doing things that should occur during the transition of power. Yep, I can see why this causes butthurt.
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(01-14-2017 12:38 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump is a deal-doer. He's going to try to negotiate deals to resolve any issue. That's who he is and what he does. We haven't had a deal-doer since Bill Clinton, and before him probably Reagan. Those are probably the best two presidents in the last 50 years, at least.

We've had two hard core ideologues for our last two. I'm ready for another deal-maker.

W. was not a "hard core ideologue" by any stretch. He was willing to work with the other side just as he did with Democratic Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock in Texas. That doesn't mean he was particularly successful at it.
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(01-14-2017 12:38 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump is a deal-doer. He's going to try to negotiate deals to resolve any issue. That's who he is and what he does. We haven't had a deal-doer since Bill Clinton, and before him probably Reagan. Those are probably the best two presidents in the last 50 years, at least.

We've had two hard core ideologues for our last two. I'm ready for another deal-maker.

Dude, he's a twitter troll, surrounded by hard core ideologues. His deals only end up with him, personally profiting and everyone else losing.

Let me predict the 'deal'

1) The USA will remove sanctions, thus allowing Exxon and Putin to put American oil workers out of jobs
2) The USA will demolish NATO, throwing away a critical geopolitical advantages, gained over the last 7 decades
3) The USA will excuse (Hitler oops I mean Putin's) takeover of the (Sudentenland) oops I mean Crimea and then allow (Hitler, I mean Putin again) to take over the remainder of Ukraine
4) The USA will excuse Putin's funding of multiple fascist political groups
5) The USA will ignore Putin's alliance with ISIS, and will excuse clear war crimes by his regime in Syria
6) The USA will greenlight extreme human rights abuses in Russia and by his proxies.

And in return

1) The Russians will pay DJT (and some Exxon/Goldman execs) billions
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So when Obama and Hillary did nothing about Crimea is was fine with you?

When Obama and Hillary funneled weapons into the hands of rebels in Syria, the same rebels that started Isis, it was fine with you?
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(01-14-2017 03:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-14-2017 12:38 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump is a deal-doer. He's going to try to negotiate deals to resolve any issue. That's who he is and what he does. We haven't had a deal-doer since Bill Clinton, and before him probably Reagan. Those are probably the best two presidents in the last 50 years, at least.

We've had two hard core ideologues for our last two. I'm ready for another deal-maker.

Dude, he's a twitter troll, surrounded by hard core ideologues. His deals only end up with him, personally profiting and everyone else losing.

Let me predict the 'deal'

1) The USA will remove sanctions, thus allowing Exxon and Putin to put American oil workers out of jobs
2) The USA will demolish NATO, throwing away a critical geopolitical advantages, gained over the last 7 decades
3) The USA will excuse (Hitler oops I mean Putin's) takeover of the (Sudentenland) oops I mean Crimea and then allow (Hitler, I mean Putin again) to take over the remainder of Ukraine
4) The USA will excuse Putin's funding of multiple fascist political groups
5) The USA will ignore Putin's alliance with ISIS, and will excuse clear war crimes by his regime in Syria
6) The USA will greenlight extreme human rights abuses in Russia and by his proxies.

And in return

1) The Russians will pay DJT (and some Exxon/Goldman execs) billions

I predict you are wrong.07-coffee3
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(01-14-2017 03:43 PM)banker Wrote:  So when Obama and Hillary did nothing about Crimea is was fine with you?

When Obama and Hillary funneled weapons into the hands of rebels in Syria, the same rebels that started Isis, it was fine with you?

Liberals invented the double standard.07-coffee3
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Russia strikes back. Hilarious. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/01/....html?_r=0

"....Moscow calls Obama's team a "bunch of geopolitical losers" engaged in a last-ditch effort to inflict the maximum possible damage to U.S.-Russia ties to make it more difficult for Trump to mend the rift....

Konstantin Kosachev, the head of foreign affairs committee in the upper house of parliament, described the White House's decision to expel Russian diplomats as an "agony of not even lame ducks, but political corpses."
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova went further.
"If 'Russian hackers' hacked anything in America, there were two things: Obama's brain, and, of course, the report about 'Russian hackers,'" she wrote on Facebook.
Zakharova charged that "Obama and his illiterate foreign policy team have dealt a crushing blow to America's prestige and leadership" and described his administration as "a bunch of geopolitical losers, enraged and shortsighted."
Obama's administration still has a few days left to "destroy the world," Zakharova wrote."
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They harassed US diplomats and broke into one's apartment and Obama does nothing. They hack John Podesta and Obama goes ballistic.
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(01-15-2017 10:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  They harassed US diplomats and broke into one's apartment and Obama does nothing. They hack John Podesta and Obama goes ballistic.

Yea, having millions of americans personal info hacked into was no big deal. But if someone hacks and informs the voting public of the democrats rigging the election, main stream news media colluding with the DNC to affect the outcome of the election, and cheese pizza parties, well, thats where Obama draws the line.
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(01-14-2017 03:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-14-2017 12:38 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Trump is a deal-doer. He's going to try to negotiate deals to resolve any issue. That's who he is and what he does. We haven't had a deal-doer since Bill Clinton, and before him probably Reagan. Those are probably the best two presidents in the last 50 years, at least.

We've had two hard core ideologues for our last two. I'm ready for another deal-maker.

Dude, he's a twitter troll, surrounded by hard core ideologues. His deals only end up with him, personally profiting and everyone else losing.

Let me predict the 'deal'

1) The USA will remove sanctions, thus allowing Exxon and Putin to put American oil workers out of jobs
2) The USA will demolish NATO, throwing away a critical geopolitical advantages, gained over the last 7 decades
3) The USA will excuse (Hitler oops I mean Putin's) takeover of the (Sudentenland) oops I mean Crimea and then allow (Hitler, I mean Putin again) to take over the remainder of Ukraine
4) The USA will excuse Putin's funding of multiple fascist political groups
5) The USA will ignore Putin's alliance with ISIS, and will excuse clear war crimes by his regime in Syria
6) The USA will greenlight extreme human rights abuses in Russia and by his proxies.

And in return

1) The Russians will pay DJT (and some Exxon/Goldman execs) billions

Yes, let's look again at your your history of predictions during this last year. Not one even remotely close to what actually happened. Maybe prognostication is something you should stay away from.
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(01-14-2017 03:43 PM)banker Wrote:  So when Obama and Hillary did nothing about Crimea is was fine with you?

When Obama and Hillary funneled weapons into the hands of rebels in Syria, the same rebels that started Isis, it was fine with you?


I love it how Tom didn't answer your post lol


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(01-15-2017 02:48 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  
(01-14-2017 03:43 PM)banker Wrote:  So when Obama and Hillary did nothing about Crimea is was fine with you?

When Obama and Hillary funneled weapons into the hands of rebels in Syria, the same rebels that started Isis, it was fine with you?


I love it how Tom didn't answer your post lol


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If Tom was fine with Hillary taking tens of millions of dollars from countries that throw gays off of the tallest nearby building, then this is probably acceptable as well.

But muh TrumpPutin...derp derp
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Putin is fighting ISIS in Syria? Where does he have an alliance with them
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