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(01-15-2017 08:13 PM)THRILL Wrote:  
Quote:And punished to the fullest extent of the law.

football season tickets ?

Well played....03-lmfao
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(01-15-2017 08:13 PM)THRILL Wrote:  
Quote:And punished to the fullest extent of the law.

football season tickets ?

I was going to say send them a bill for the damages, but...
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I certainly think permanent expulsion is a reasonable punishment here.
01-16-2017 11:49 AM
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(01-16-2017 11:49 AM)Barrett Wrote:  I certainly think permanent expulsion is a reasonable punishment here.

+ 1.....as well as the cost to restore the defaced property.
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On a Rice facebook group I belong to, we were having a hard time thinking about any true Trump supporter among the alumni. we thought about one but he only supported Trump after Cruz bowed out.
There are some conservatives in the group but they do not believe in Trump.

(01-14-2017 07:56 PM)elf owl Wrote:  
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(01-13-2017 02:12 PM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 02:06 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Absolutely awful. I have no idea what makes someone want to do that...

My guess is a "false flag" operation...

smear campaign

Agree. No true Trump supporter would do something like that.

Dude, are you naive! Move it to the proper forum if you wish to spout. Politics not welcome here.
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(01-16-2017 05:08 PM)75src Wrote:  On a Rice facebook group I belong to, we were having a hard time thinking about any true Trump supporter among the alumni. we thought about one but he only supported Trump after Cruz bowed out.
There are some conservatives in the group but they do not believe in Trump.

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(01-13-2017 02:12 PM)wheredidmypantsgo Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 02:06 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Absolutely awful. I have no idea what makes someone want to do that...

My guess is a "false flag" operation...

smear campaign

Agree. No true Trump supporter would do something like that.

Dude, are you naive! Move it to the proper forum if you wish to spout. Politics not welcome here.

Wade Townsend is a big time Trump supporter per his Facebook posts.
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does he have an alibi?

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(01-15-2017 12:45 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  And punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The law of East Berlin would have dealt with them rather conclusively.
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(01-16-2017 06:39 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(01-15-2017 12:45 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  And punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The law of East Berlin would have dealt with them rather conclusively.
Which side of the wall did they deface?
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(01-16-2017 06:12 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  does he have an alibi?

05-stirthepot

He's overseas..
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Why are they protecting the identity of these students? I can't imagine it's because they are minors. (17 seems to be as good as 18 when they want it to be in TX.)

It bothers me that they are being shielded from some of the social consequences of their criminal actions. Make them own it...all of it!
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(01-16-2017 09:31 PM)HooCares Wrote:  Why are they protecting the identity of these students? I can't imagine it's because they are minors. (17 seems to be as good as 18 when they want it to be in TX.)

It bothers me that they are being shielded from some of the social consequences of their criminal actions. Make them own it...all of it!

I'd prefer they not release the information if they are still suspects and have not been convicted of a crime or charged with one.
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Rumor has it that the students won't be charged with a crime, instead just sanctioned by the university.

Those are the RUMORS.
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(01-16-2017 09:05 PM)chrisc Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 06:39 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  
(01-15-2017 12:45 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  And punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The law of East Berlin would have dealt with them rather conclusively.
Which side of the wall did they deface?

Sehr gut!
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(01-16-2017 10:13 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Rumor has it that the students won't be charged with a crime, instead just sanctioned by the university.

Those are the RUMORS.

What did the rumors say about why not?
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(01-16-2017 09:36 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 09:31 PM)HooCares Wrote:  Why are they protecting the identity of these students? I can't imagine it's because they are minors. (17 seems to be as good as 18 when they want it to be in TX.)

It bothers me that they are being shielded from some of the social consequences of their criminal actions. Make them own it...all of it!

I'd prefer they not release the information if they are still suspects and have not been convicted of a crime or charged with one.

If they were to be criminally charged (even if only by citation), or even if they are booked into county jail prior to being charged, it would no longer be an internal matter, and their names would probably be in the local news pretty quickly. They would also be entitled to constitutional due process rights, such as assistance of counsel, the right to confront witnesses and that notorious burden of proof thing -- which is exactly why universities sometimes choose to handle obviously criminal matters themselves rather than turn them over to legal authorities. Whether that's a good thing or not is another matter. But I'm not sure there is any reason to believe that avoiding constitutional due process is a consideration in this case.
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(01-16-2017 09:28 PM)Da.Owl Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 06:12 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  does he have an alibi?

05-stirthepot

He's overseas..

In fairness and respect to Wade, we had a couple constructive back and force comments on Facebook. He's a rare avid Trump supporter with whom I've been able to have a rational, intelligent, non-combatitive debate on the issues.
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Walt--hope it was clear I was kidding.

Based on trends at other schools, I believe it's an even bet that the vandals are anti-Trump.

But motive is really irrelevant. If this was done by Rice students, they should be expelled.

I will in fact withhold annual giving and scholarship pledges until I am notified of their expulsion by Leebron.

My son went to Brown and students there vandalized an American flag theme bench my son had built at his dorm. Zeroing out Brown giving was an easy decision.
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(01-16-2017 11:29 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  Walt--hope it was clear I was kidding.

Based on trends at other schools, I believe it's an even bet that the vandals are anti-Trump.

But motive is really irrelevant. If this was done by Rice students, they should be expelled.

I will in fact withhold annual giving and scholarship pledges until I am notified of their expulsion by Leebron.

My son went to Brown and students there vandalized an American flag theme bench my son had built at his dorm. Zeroing out Brown giving was an easy decision.

Looks like streak of consecutive years of happiest students is at risk. Hard to see how happy students can do this much vandalizing. Oh well. I always thought that was a made up stat anyway.
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(01-16-2017 11:38 PM)BufflOwl Wrote:  
(01-16-2017 11:29 PM)MemOwl Wrote:  Walt--hope it was clear I was kidding.

Based on trends at other schools, I believe it's an even bet that the vandals are anti-Trump.

But motive is really irrelevant. If this was done by Rice students, they should be expelled.

I will in fact withhold annual giving and scholarship pledges until I am notified of their expulsion by Leebron.

My son went to Brown and students there vandalized an American flag theme bench my son had built at his dorm. Zeroing out Brown giving was an easy decision.

Looks like streak of consecutive years of happiest students is at risk. Hard to see how happy students can do this much vandalizing. Oh well. I always thought that was a made up stat anyway.

I was always happiest when I was vandalizing.
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