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With the Rams and Chargers sharing a stadium, the naming rights for the stadium has to be owned by Dodge right? It just make too much sense.
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxsports...tmobile-us

New report that the Chargers temporary home in 2017 and 2018 will be the Stub Hub Center in Carson. That's the 30k MLS soccer stadium.

It probably makes some sense. If they tried to play at the LA coliseium, they would probably draw only 30k anyway and be playing in front of 60k empty seats.
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RE: ESPN Reporting Chargers are leaving San Diego for Los Angeles ....
(01-12-2017 02:23 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Pretty sure this is the first time any sportswriter for a major paper has ever written a column like this to "welcome" a new major-sport team to town:

We. Don't. Want. You.

I generally find Plaschke insufferable but today, his column is spot on. This is a bad move; there's a reason other owners were trying to convince him to stay in SD. I understand he's counting on LA to jump his team's valuation but a lot of that new equity gets eaten up by $650MM in relocation debt. And if he ends up with 40K in attendance at Kroenkeville? This whole thing will be a wash for Spanos and a big negative for the NFL.

After this shitshow how many SD locals are going to drive up to LA for a Chargers game at an MLS-sized stadium, let alone a game in Inglewood where the tix will cost $200 ea in the peanut gallery? Not this guy...



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Sad to see them go...
01-12-2017 12:29 PM
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RE: ESPN Reporting Chargers are leaving San Diego for Los Angeles ....
This is terrible...

[Image: C1-9VIrUkAIKQy6.jpg:large]

...but this is hilarious...

Tampa Bay Lightning ‏@TBLightning 4h4 hours ago
Tampa Bay Lightning Retweeted NFL
*checks mentions*
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*clears throat*

for the record, us & the @dodgers are just friends
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RE: ESPN Reporting Chargers are leaving San Diego for Los Angeles ....
(01-12-2017 12:27 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 02:23 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Pretty sure this is the first time any sportswriter for a major paper has ever written a column like this to "welcome" a new major-sport team to town:

We. Don't. Want. You.

I generally find Plaschke insufferable but today, his column is spot on. This is a bad move; there's a reason other owners were trying to convince him to stay in SD. I understand he's counting on LA to jump his team's valuation but a lot of that new equity gets eaten up by $650MM in relocation debt. And if he ends up with 40K in attendance at Kroenkeville? This whole thing will be a wash for Spanos and a big negative for the NFL.

After this shitshow how many SD locals are going to drive up to LA for a Chargers game at an MLS-sized stadium, let alone a game in Inglewood where the tix will cost $200 ea in the peanut gallery? Not this guy...

It's a real question how much this decision is driven by the prospect of profit in LA versus how much it's driven by spite towards many different groups, including...

San Diego: Obviously. But not just the act of "You wouldn't give me $1 billion for a new stadium, so goodbye." It's the timing of it. The NFL gave Spanos an extension until next Tuesday to announce his move precisely because they didn't want him doing exactly what he did: Announcing it at 8 am today and then immediately flying up to LA right before the San Diego mayor has to give his annual "State of the City" address at 10 am as The Mayor Who Lost The Chargers.

The NFL: Spanos was hoping the NFL would contribute a few hundred million toward a San Diego stadium to close the gap between the city's offer and the small amount the Chargers were willing to chip in. When the NFL showed no interest in that and didn't even put the request on their agenda for this week's meeting, Spanos skipped the NFL meeting and called Goodell shortly after it was over to tell him he was moving the franchise. (And as noted above, Spanos ignored the deadline extension that Goodell gave him, and went ahead and announced this morning to embarrass the mayor.)

Kroenke: Spanos probably dislikes and resents Kroenke more than anyone else, and reserves his greatest act of spite for Stan -- becoming the permanent unwanted tenant in Inglewood, even if the Chargers never sell more than 30,000 seats except when they play the Raiders.
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RE: ESPN Reporting Chargers are leaving San Diego for Los Angeles ....
(01-12-2017 04:17 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  This is terrible...

[Image: C1-9VIrUkAIKQy6.jpg:large]

...but this is hilarious...

Tampa Bay Lightning ‏@TBLightning 4h4 hours ago
Tampa Bay Lightning Retweeted NFL
*checks mentions*
*squints*
*clears throat*

for the record, us & the @dodgers are just friends


This is my favorite response to the Chargers' logo:

Quote:Dallas Stars
‏@DallasStars

new logo. hope this is cool, @dallascowboys

[Image: stars2.vadapt.767.high.0.jpg]

11:34 AM - 12 Jan 2017



(By the way, the NFL says the Chargers' LA logo has not been approved by the league. Gee, ya think maybe the NFL wants to contemplate whether they want to risk being sued by MLB and the Dodgers?)
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RE: ESPN Reporting Chargers are leaving San Diego for Los Angeles ....
(01-12-2017 04:31 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:27 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 02:23 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Pretty sure this is the first time any sportswriter for a major paper has ever written a column like this to "welcome" a new major-sport team to town:

We. Don't. Want. You.

I generally find Plaschke insufferable but today, his column is spot on. This is a bad move; there's a reason other owners were trying to convince him to stay in SD. I understand he's counting on LA to jump his team's valuation but a lot of that new equity gets eaten up by $650MM in relocation debt. And if he ends up with 40K in attendance at Kroenkeville? This whole thing will be a wash for Spanos and a big negative for the NFL.

After this shitshow how many SD locals are going to drive up to LA for a Chargers game at an MLS-sized stadium, let alone a game in Inglewood where the tix will cost $200 ea in the peanut gallery? Not this guy...

It's a real question how much this decision is driven by the prospect of profit in LA versus how much it's driven by spite towards many different groups, including...

San Diego: Obviously. But not just the act of "You wouldn't give me $1 billion for a new stadium, so goodbye." It's the timing of it. The NFL gave Spanos an extension until next Tuesday to announce his move precisely because they didn't want him doing exactly what he did: Announcing it at 8 am today and then immediately flying up to LA right before the San Diego mayor has to give his annual "State of the City" address at 10 am as The Mayor Who Lost The Chargers.

The NFL: Spanos was hoping the NFL would contribute a few hundred million toward a San Diego stadium to close the gap between the city's offer and the small amount the Chargers were willing to chip in. When the NFL showed no interest in that and didn't even put the request on their agenda for this week's meeting, Spanos skipped the NFL meeting and called Goodell shortly after it was over to tell him he was moving the franchise. (And as noted above, Spanos ignored the deadline extension that Goodell gave him, and went ahead and announced this morning to embarrass the mayor.)

Kroenke: Spanos probably dislikes and resents Kroenke more than anyone else, and reserves his greatest act of spite for Stan -- becoming the permanent unwanted tenant in Inglewood, even if the Chargers never sell more than 30,000 seats except when they play the Raiders.

Those are all great points. There were rumors going around that the NFL was going to pony up some $$ to keep the Chargers in SD but it looks like their "urging" was not all that urgent. I also read that Spanos was going to officially ask for it but I wonder if he did that?
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(01-12-2017 04:53 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 04:31 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:27 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 02:23 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Pretty sure this is the first time any sportswriter for a major paper has ever written a column like this to "welcome" a new major-sport team to town:

We. Don't. Want. You.

I generally find Plaschke insufferable but today, his column is spot on. This is a bad move; there's a reason other owners were trying to convince him to stay in SD. I understand he's counting on LA to jump his team's valuation but a lot of that new equity gets eaten up by $650MM in relocation debt. And if he ends up with 40K in attendance at Kroenkeville? This whole thing will be a wash for Spanos and a big negative for the NFL.

After this shitshow how many SD locals are going to drive up to LA for a Chargers game at an MLS-sized stadium, let alone a game in Inglewood where the tix will cost $200 ea in the peanut gallery? Not this guy...

It's a real question how much this decision is driven by the prospect of profit in LA versus how much it's driven by spite towards many different groups, including...

San Diego: Obviously. But not just the act of "You wouldn't give me $1 billion for a new stadium, so goodbye." It's the timing of it. The NFL gave Spanos an extension until next Tuesday to announce his move precisely because they didn't want him doing exactly what he did: Announcing it at 8 am today and then immediately flying up to LA right before the San Diego mayor has to give his annual "State of the City" address at 10 am as The Mayor Who Lost The Chargers.

The NFL: Spanos was hoping the NFL would contribute a few hundred million toward a San Diego stadium to close the gap between the city's offer and the small amount the Chargers were willing to chip in. When the NFL showed no interest in that and didn't even put the request on their agenda for this week's meeting, Spanos skipped the NFL meeting and called Goodell shortly after it was over to tell him he was moving the franchise. (And as noted above, Spanos ignored the deadline extension that Goodell gave him, and went ahead and announced this morning to embarrass the mayor.)

Kroenke: Spanos probably dislikes and resents Kroenke more than anyone else, and reserves his greatest act of spite for Stan -- becoming the permanent unwanted tenant in Inglewood, even if the Chargers never sell more than 30,000 seats except when they play the Raiders.

Those are all great points. There were rumors going around that the NFL was going to pony up some $$ to keep the Chargers in SD but it looks like their "urging" was not all that urgent. I also read that Spanos was going to officially ask for it but I wonder if he did that?

I have no idea if Spanos officially asked for that money from the NFL, or just had "sources" send the message through sportswriters that it was the only way to keep him from moving the Chargers.

It could well be the latter; one way of looking at Spanos' stadium chase in San Diego is that he always asked for a lot but that, unlike NFL owners in other cities, Spanos never found a way of asking for it that was effective and non-clumsy.
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Come on, that new Chargers logo looks nothing like the Dodgers logo other than that they both show a silhouette of "LA" in some form.
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