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It sucks, but we know our situation.
01-13-2017 09:14 AM
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RE: Bad loss to a bad team
(01-12-2017 11:05 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 03:15 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  We have 6 players. This is gonna happen...

I said it in the summer, it's gonna be ugly if/when Dedric has to play center.

After Chad went down and Clergeot/Kessee started slow, I said we'd run out of gas.

Best bet is to get Chad back in time to get a few games under his belt and hopefully get some guys to play better before the AAC tourney.

In reality, getting an NIT bid with all home games paving the way to NYC would be a noble end at this point.

I'll take that from a first year coach with a depleted bench.
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(01-12-2017 11:05 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 03:15 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  We have 6 players. This is gonna happen...

I said it in the summer, it's gonna be ugly if/when Dedric has to play center.

After Chad went down and Clergeot/Kessee started slow, I said we'd run out of gas.

Best bet is to get Chad back in time to get a few games under his belt and hopefully get some guys to play better before the AAC tourney.

In reality, getting an NIT bid with all home games paving the way to NYC would be a noble end at this point.

If this team can get to 20 wins and get an NIT bid - with a home game or 2 then I think we should consider that a tremendous success. The FEF should be packed to send the guys off...

This team has it's flaws. Lack of talent, depth, and experience. But it's so OBVIOUS that they are coached well, all things taken into consideration.
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(01-13-2017 11:03 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If this team can get to 20 wins and get an NIT bid - with a home game or 2 then I think we should consider that a tremendous success.

Yep. With Chad getting hurt, Azab never getting cleared and with Tubby's 2 other recruits not really earning valuable minutes, he's basically having to do it with the Memphis 4 plus Randall.

I think if Tubby's recruits would've panned out, the season could've been different to a degree.
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NIT is different now, a NIT birth would be a great result
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(01-13-2017 12:24 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 11:03 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If this team can get to 20 wins and get an NIT bid - with a home game or 2 then I think we should consider that a tremendous success.

Yep. With Chad getting hurt, Azab never getting cleared and with Tubby's 2 other recruits not really earning valuable minutes, he's basically having to do it with the Memphis 4 plus Randall.

I think if Tubby's recruits would've panned out, the season could've been different to a degree.

I wasn't quite sure what to expect out of Keon, but Kessee has been a disappointment for sure.
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(01-13-2017 01:16 PM)RekeHavoc Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 12:24 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 11:03 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  If this team can get to 20 wins and get an NIT bid - with a home game or 2 then I think we should consider that a tremendous success.

Yep. With Chad getting hurt, Azab never getting cleared and with Tubby's 2 other recruits not really earning valuable minutes, he's basically having to do it with the Memphis 4 plus Randall.

I think if Tubby's recruits would've panned out, the season could've been different to a degree.

I wasn't quite sure what to expect out of Keon, but Kessee has been a disappointment for sure.

Yep. Tubby kind of bragged on him in the preseason too, so I was expecting at the very least an Avery Woodson type, but he just seems a little small and less athletic than the rest of the guys and hasn't been able to get many clean looks.
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(01-12-2017 02:04 PM)presskh Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:15 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:50 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  It just seemed the energy and focus were lacking for too long of stretches in the game.

And some of the defensive close outs on shooters were absurd. I saw KJ actually jump and extend his hand AFTER the guy already shot it.

Looked like a tired team trying to cut corners maybe.

If you add tigerlabel's post, your post, rebounding and lack of dept.. You have the reasons for this loss. Is it Tubby's fought that the dept isn't there. Sure it is but it sounds like some some of the posters want him fired already. That would be insane. He has a pretty good start on recruiting for next year and hopefully we get some of the Memphis kids.

I wouldn't say it's Tubby's fault for our lack of depth, which is our biggest problem. He was hired late into the recruiting cycle. After we missed on Stokes because of no open schollies, I'm inclined to just save them for quality players. Next year, however, will be a different story.

He had plenty of chances to go to the graduate transfer pool and did not go after it hard. Were we expect top 20 class so late??? No, but we did expect him to at least try.

Basically he pulled a Cal and stole a recruit he was after at TT after he had already SIGNED with TT. And put all his eggs in one basket going after two big men that everyone was shying away. He brought in mostly bodies to fill out practice.
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(01-13-2017 12:26 PM)fsquid Wrote:  NIT is different now, a NIT birth would be a great result

NIT has become a shadow of it's old self after the NCAA bought it. 1/4 of the field is already spoken for before selection takes place.

First 4 and last 4 out of NCAA get in and become top seeds. If you win regular season but not conference tournament you automatically get in.

Basically they take the remaining P5 conference teams over 500 which did not make the NCAA and give them spot in NIT.
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(01-13-2017 11:03 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 11:05 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 03:15 PM)HometownTiger Wrote:  We have 6 players. This is gonna happen...

I said it in the summer, it's gonna be ugly if/when Dedric has to play center.

After Chad went down and Clergeot/Kessee started slow, I said we'd run out of gas.

Best bet is to get Chad back in time to get a few games under his belt and hopefully get some guys to play better before the AAC tourney.

In reality, getting an NIT bid with all home games paving the way to NYC would be a noble end at this point.

If this team can get to 20 wins and get an NIT bid - with a home game or 2 then I think we should consider that a tremendous success. The FEF should be packed to send the guys off...

This team has it's flaws. Lack of talent, depth, and experience. But it's so OBVIOUS that they are coached well, all things taken into consideration.

With the SOS this year 20 wins will not get an NIT invite. Last year's SOS was much better and 19 wins were not enough.

We have caught a number of breaks this year which may allow us to get back to 20 wins. AAC is way down from last year where we put 4 teams in tournament and had SMU been eligible it would have been 5 teams. Right now it looks like no more than 3 SMU, Houston and Cincinnati. SC was missing their best player. That is like us playing without Dedric. UConn is so beaten up with injuries they are a shadow of their former self and Oklahoma is on a 7 game losing streak.
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Bad loss to a bad team
This racecar fella - full of agenda. There has been nothing positive about this season apparently. And of course, anything to downplay our solid wins. Dude...just be a GT fan already.

Sindarius is nothing like Dedric. Without him, SC's 2 other losses were by 3 and 2 to solid teams in Seton Hall and Clemson respectively. And we spanked them. But keep downplaying the win.

UConn might be a shell of their former self but still have talent. After their loss to us, they have spanked Temple and UCF.

OU has been without Woodard and he has been playing limited mins since he came back. Without a healthy Woodard they are average. We were down significantly in that game and made an impressive comeback.

Heck even Iowa has had 2 recent top 25 wins. And we handled them easily.

Tubby brought in 4 players. What's this stealing recruit crap? Beard did the same but no one jumps on him. SMDH
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(01-14-2017 09:25 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  This racecar fella - full of agenda. There has been nothing positive about this season apparently. And of course, anything to downplay our solid wins. Dude...just be a GT fan already.

Sindarius is nothing like Dedric. Without him, SC's 2 other losses were by 3 and 2 to solid teams in Seton Hall and Clemson respectively. And we spanked them. But keep downplaying the win.

UConn might be a shell of their former self but still have talent. After their loss to us, they have spanked Temple and UCF.

OU has been without Woodard and he has been playing limited mins since he came back. Without a healthy Woodard they are average. We were down significantly in that game and made an impressive comeback.

Heck even Iowa has had 2 recent top 25 wins. And we handled them easily.

Tubby brought in 4 players. What's this stealing recruit crap? Beard did the same but no one jumps on him. SMDH

Takes all kinds. The only thing that bothers me is how many people were banned for their continuing diatribes about how bad Pastner was, yet this guy gets a pass on doing the same to Tubby.
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(01-14-2017 03:48 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 12:26 PM)fsquid Wrote:  NIT is different now, a NIT birth would be a great result

NIT has become a shadow of it's old self after the NCAA bought it. 1/4 of the field is already spoken for before selection takes place.

First 4 and last 4 out of NCAA get in and become top seeds. If you win regular season but not conference tournament you automatically get in.

Basically they take the remaining P5 conference teams over 500 which did not make the NCAA and give them spot in NIT.

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shell of itself? It gives teams that win their regular season a fall back in the 1 bid leagues. I'm fine with that since I think conference tournaments are gayer than Wales
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(01-14-2017 11:38 AM)hsvtiger Wrote:  
(01-14-2017 03:48 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-13-2017 12:26 PM)fsquid Wrote:  NIT is different now, a NIT birth would be a great result

NIT has become a shadow of it's old self after the NCAA bought it. 1/4 of the field is already spoken for before selection takes place.

First 4 and last 4 out of NCAA get in and become top seeds. If you win regular season but not conference tournament you automatically get in.

Basically they take the remaining P5 conference teams over 500 which did not make the NCAA and give them spot in NIT.

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(01-12-2017 12:15 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:50 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  It just seemed the energy and focus were lacking for too long of stretches in the game.

And some of the defensive close outs on shooters were absurd. I saw KJ actually jump and extend his hand AFTER the guy already shot it.

Looked like a tired team trying to cut corners maybe.

If you add tigerlabel's post, your post, rebounding and lack of dept.. You have the reasons for this loss. Is it Tubby's fought that the dept isn't there. Sure it is but it sounds like some some of the posters want him fired already. That would be insane. He has a pretty good start on recruiting for next year and hopefully we get some of the Memphis kids.


Smh

I haven't seen ANYONE that wants him fired, not even the neckcar guy or Penny Lane

Do you dream up this stuff ?
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(01-14-2017 03:10 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:15 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:50 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  It just seemed the energy and focus were lacking for too long of stretches in the game.

And some of the defensive close outs on shooters were absurd. I saw KJ actually jump and extend his hand AFTER the guy already shot it.

Looked like a tired team trying to cut corners maybe.

If you add tigerlabel's post, your post, rebounding and lack of dept.. You have the reasons for this loss. Is it Tubby's fought that the dept isn't there. Sure it is but it sounds like some some of the posters want him fired already. That would be insane. He has a pretty good start on recruiting for next year and hopefully we get some of the Memphis kids.


Smh

I haven't seen ANYONE that wants him fired, not even the neckcar guy or Penny Lane

Do you dream up this stuff ?
et you

I don't dream up any stuff. That is your department. I said it sounds like people want him fired on this board. I have heard people say that they wouldn't mind him being fired but will give him one more year.
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(01-14-2017 04:36 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(01-14-2017 03:10 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 12:15 PM)2tigers Wrote:  
(01-12-2017 09:50 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  It just seemed the energy and focus were lacking for too long of stretches in the game.

And some of the defensive close outs on shooters were absurd. I saw KJ actually jump and extend his hand AFTER the guy already shot it.

Looked like a tired team trying to cut corners maybe.

If you add tigerlabel's post, your post, rebounding and lack of dept.. You have the reasons for this loss. Is it Tubby's fought that the dept isn't there. Sure it is but it sounds like some some of the posters want him fired already. That would be insane. He has a pretty good start on recruiting for next year and hopefully we get some of the Memphis kids.


Smh

I haven't seen ANYONE that wants him fired, not even the neckcar guy or Penny Lane

Do you dream up this stuff ?
et you

I don't dream up any stuff. That is your department. I said it sounds like people want him fired on this board. I have heard people say that they wouldn't mind him being fired but will give him one more year.

Link?

Haven't seen that either


Once again all you ever do is bash anyone who dares be critical of a coach
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Bring back Mammy and ChrisD
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One is a cute pig and the other a hangman.
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