(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good thing is (I think) the two timeouts that weren't used can be carried over to the next game.

Gotta make a shot to call a to. We abandoned the offense in the last 2 minutes. I can't think of a time when a to would have mattered.

Memphis couldn't take a timeout when they had the ball?

Hmmmm. Must be some new rule.

Not to mention after dead balls, free throws, or Tulsa baskets...

(01-11-2017 11:19 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good thing is (I think) the two timeouts that weren't used can be carried over to the next game.

Gotta make a shot to call a to. We abandoned the offense in the last 2 minutes. I can't think of a time when a to would have mattered.

After dead balls, free throws, or Tulsa baskets...

don't end up like oldmangrizz!

Had Tulsa on the rope by going to as zone and forcing them to try and hit from outside. Got the lead back and then went away from it allowing them to penetrate again and regain the lead.

(01-11-2017 11:08 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:09 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  NOT FRIGGIN FOUL DOWN BY 7 WITH UNDER A MINUTE LEFT???

Uh...If Tubby fouls, it's a technical with shots and possession.

It was poor end of game management though. Couldn't tell if that was the coach's decision, or players'.

Had similar situation a few games back. Down two with 7 seconds to go and we walk the ball up court.

Making mental mistakes late in close games.

For all the analysis & backseat coaching here, we simply missed FTs & being behind caused us hurried poor shot selection in the last 2 mins, while at the same time Tulsa during that timeframe was making shots due to our matador defense. Very disappointing loss for sure - where was Crawford for most of the game, BTW?

(01-12-2017 08:16 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all the analysis & backseat coaching here, we simply missed FTs & being behind caused us hurried poor shot selection in the last 2 mins, while at the same time Tulsa during that timeframe was making shots due to our matador defense. Very disappointing loss for sure - where was Crawford for most of the game, BTW?

I agree with this and would add rebounding and lack of offensive rebounding. We almost never get second chance opportunities. Good post Atlanta.

Relax. All good. We beat several REALLY good teams. UTRVG, Millwaukee, Savannah St, McNeese, Jackson St, UAB, Incarnate Word. We lost to Providence, Monmouth and Ole Miss.

All this despite some solid talent. Talent better than Tubby recruited at TT and Minn and maybe even Kensucky. People have reason to gripe.

This team is very limited at the guard position and at the 5. The sooner we accept this, the quicker we can happily accept the results of this years squad. They are inconsistent because our PG is inconsistent... and we don't have the interior players to get 2nd chance buckets.

We were done after Jeremiah turned it over with a bad pass in the lane, which lead to an easy 3 on 1 fast break; and then down two, allowed an "And 1" off a stick back. We went from being tied to down 5, and both situations were emblematic of this teams struggles all year long.

For all the accolades, Dedric gets a bit too passive for me at times.

He fights for one on one position in the middle of the lane against a lesser defender and passes it out or shoots a weaker shot...I saw him get perfect spot in the middle of the lane, driving angle on either side of the big white dude and he dribbled out of the lane and shot a short hook...when all he had to do was pump fake and one power dribble to the goal.

(01-12-2017 08:16 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  For all the analysis & backseat coaching here, we simply missed FTs & being behind caused us hurried poor shot selection in the last 2 mins, while at the same time Tulsa during that timeframe was making shots due to our matador defense. Very disappointing loss for sure - where was Crawford for most of the game, BTW?

While true, I don't think Tulsa is in the game or we are in the position we were in late if our depth and size were better.

This game was really lost in the summer.

Tulsa ran 9-10 guys at us, 3 or 4 with good size and physicality.

Which blows my mind - seems like every AAC team gets these bigs, whether a 6-8 240 DI transfer or an unranked 6-10 dude, and has a couple of them, while we seem to struggle to ever land one big.

(01-11-2017 11:19 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good thing is (I think) the two timeouts that weren't used can be carried over to the next game.

Gotta make a shot to call a to. We abandoned the offense in the last 2 minutes. I can't think of a time when a to would have mattered.

Memphis couldn't take a timeout when they had the ball?

Hmmmm. Must be some new rule.

Not to mention after dead balls, free throws, or Tulsa baskets...

I'm talking clock management. Only time a TO helps you is after a made basket or defensive rebound. We had zero of those during the last 2 minutes.

Sure, you could call it after we fouled and stopped the clock, or after Tulsa made a shot. That doesn't help with clock management though. You could setup a play. But the 2-minute drill is less about running plays, and more about clock management. Timeouts were available, but would not have helped the way it played out.

Plenty to criticize. Timeouts are way down the list.

(01-12-2017 09:46 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:19 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good thing is (I think) the two timeouts that weren't used can be carried over to the next game.

Gotta make a shot to call a to. We abandoned the offense in the last 2 minutes. I can't think of a time when a to would have mattered.

Memphis couldn't take a timeout when they had the ball?

Hmmmm. Must be some new rule.

Not to mention after dead balls, free throws, or Tulsa baskets...

I'm talking clock management. Only time a TO helps you is after a made basket or defensive rebound. We had zero of those during the last 2 minutes.

Sure, you could call it after we fouled and stopped the clock, or after Tulsa made a shot. That doesn't help with clock management though. You could setup a play. But the 2-minute drill is less about running plays, and more about clock management. Timeouts were available, but would not have helped the way it played out.

Plenty to criticize. Timeouts are way down the list.

Wut?

Can someone else help me with this one?

(01-12-2017 09:04 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Relax. All good. We beat several REALLY good teams. UTRVG, Millwaukee, Savannah St, McNeese, Jackson St, UAB, Incarnate Word. We lost to Providence, Monmouth and Ole Miss.

All this despite some solid talent. Talent better than Tubby recruited at TT and Minn and maybe even Kensucky. People have reason to gripe.

You're right, we should have never let wonder boy take his smiling azz to GT. Hiring Tubby is the worst decision in the history of Tiger basketball. I know, why don't you write a letter of recommendation to Rudd and Bowen on behalf of Tic Price. I'm sure we could get him in here. Good idea champ?

(01-12-2017 09:04 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Relax. All good. We beat several REALLY good teams. UTRVG, Millwaukee, Savannah St, McNeese, Jackson St, UAB, Incarnate Word. We lost to Providence, Monmouth and Ole Miss.

All this despite some solid talent. Talent better than Tubby recruited at TT and Minn and maybe even Kensucky. People have reason to gripe.

Nice of you to leave out Iowa, South Carolina, and at Oklahoma. We hear you clearly.

Sure, people have reason to gripe after a loss. I went to bed griping and woke up griping. Don't spin an agenda though, with selective facts like this.

(01-12-2017 09:54 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:46 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:19 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 11:05 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Good thing is (I think) the two timeouts that weren't used can be carried over to the next game.

Gotta make a shot to call a to. We abandoned the offense in the last 2 minutes. I can't think of a time when a to would have mattered.

Memphis couldn't take a timeout when they had the ball?

Hmmmm. Must be some new rule.

Not to mention after dead balls, free throws, or Tulsa baskets...

I'm talking clock management. Only time a TO helps you is after a made basket or defensive rebound. We had zero of those during the last 2 minutes.

Sure, you could call it after we fouled and stopped the clock, or after Tulsa made a shot. That doesn't help with clock management though. You could setup a play. But the 2-minute drill is less about running plays, and more about clock management. Timeouts were available, but would not have helped the way it played out.

Plenty to criticize. Timeouts are way down the list.

Wut?

Can someone else help me with this one?

It's easy if you try. When you're managing the clock at end of game, the advantage comes by stopping the clock before additional seconds run off. If the clock is already stopped (dead balls, free throws - your suggestions), a TO gets you no clock advantage. And if you call it after their made basket, it gets you nothing because you're already inbounding the ball.

Go back and watch the last 2 minutes. How much clock would have been saved by any timeout we could have called? None. Zero.

(01-12-2017 09:55 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:04 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Relax. All good. We beat several REALLY good teams. UTRVG, Millwaukee, Savannah St, McNeese, Jackson St, UAB, Incarnate Word. We lost to Providence, Monmouth and Ole Miss.

All this despite some solid talent. Talent better than Tubby recruited at TT and Minn and maybe even Kensucky. People have reason to gripe.

Nice of you to leave out Iowa, South Carolina, and at Oklahoma. We hear you clearly.

Sure, people have reason to gripe after a loss. I went to bed griping and woke up griping. Don't spin an agenda though, with selective facts like this.

The agendas from some here are odd to say the least.

Rebounds and free throws.

We don't have A center. Rivers dresses out at what a buck seventy five. Duh.

I don't see why people are bitching about the detergent the trainer is using on the uniforms.

(01-12-2017 10:09 AM)BuccTiger Wrote:  Rebounds and free throws.

We don't have A center. Rivers dresses out at what a buck seventy five. Duh.

I don't see why people are bitching about the detergent the trainer is using on the uniforms.

I was thinking last night watching the game that this would've been a good matchup for Rykhoek.

(01-11-2017 10:39 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 10:09 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  NOT FRIGGIN FOUL DOWN BY 7 WITH UNDER A MINUTE LEFT???

He must have been day dreaming about tee times----warm in Mempho this week.

Josh? What you creeping round here for?

(01-12-2017 09:54 AM)TubbyTime Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:04 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Relax. All good. We beat several REALLY good teams. UTRVG, Millwaukee, Savannah St, McNeese, Jackson St, UAB, Incarnate Word. We lost to Providence, Monmouth and Ole Miss.

All this despite some solid talent. Talent better than Tubby recruited at TT and Minn and maybe even Kensucky. People have reason to gripe.

You're right, we should have never let wonder boy take his smiling azz to GT. Hiring Tubby is the worst decision in the history of Tiger basketball. I know, why don't you write a letter of recommendation to Rudd and Bowen on behalf of Tic Price. I'm sure we could get him in here. Good idea champ?

(01-12-2017 09:55 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-12-2017 09:04 AM)gusrob Wrote:  Relax. All good. We beat several REALLY good teams. UTRVG, Millwaukee, Savannah St, McNeese, Jackson St, UAB, Incarnate Word. We lost to Providence, Monmouth and Ole Miss.

All this despite some solid talent. Talent better than Tubby recruited at TT and Minn and maybe even Kensucky. People have reason to gripe.

Nice of you to leave out Iowa, South Carolina, and at Oklahoma. We hear you clearly.

Sure, people have reason to gripe after a loss. I went to bed griping and woke up griping. Don't spin an agenda though, with selective facts like this.

Hard to have a decent convo here. Most posters are way too Sunshine Pumping or way too Debbie Downer. Impossible. Freggin clowns.